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Sony nuked PlayStation VR’s biggest problem by promising PS5 support | Venture Beat Article
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No I get that. I just think it's a hard sell, when PSVR has really truly just starting to get off the ground comparative to it's counter parts in the PCVR space and wasn't really designed with forward momentum in mind. I think while they sold a lot this gen, as a result they'll sell a lot less of the second gen sets because it's a hard sell to ask people to shell out again, to finally get a sufficient setup. Suddenly PSVR is one of the more expensive VR ecosystems to be in. Rift is still sufficient, Vive is still sufficient etc. It's not the best, but they followed in line with the goals of VR from day one. Where as Sony broke off to portray themselves as the bang for buck option. But personally I think Oculus has had that trophy on that one for a while. Even though I'm not exactly happy with their behavior around VR exclusivity either.
I think I'm just bugged by the narrative that was pervasive, when not looking at it holistically. But was easy to see from day one.
At least in happy to see they are still supporting the standard PSVR going forward. The question will be, will the software. As most is third party. Since it holds back design.
For tech enthusiasts maybe, Who need the latest and greatest, But in no way shape or form is it a lacklustre experience, Like that's such bad feedback to say it's borderline trolling. People jumping aboard with PSVR when PS5 comes out will have a game changing experience like we all did/do.
All we have ever needed is new controllers and more power which the PS5 will have.
PSVR2 is a good few years away hence the support for PSVR, Sony like Cerny said are committed and excited about VR, It's a marathon and new tech, Getting VR in homes is the first step and supporting PSVR with the power of PS5 is huge news, The need for better controls Is a must.
Occulus have the quest coming soon, 6Dof is just amazing, It's standalone and have PSVR like visuals apparently or slightly less. That's going to be the best incling of mainstream appeal due to its console like plug/play nature. If that does really well then Sony will
No doubt follow suit with PSVR2 and will have there studios to craft some unique games for it like they have done for PSVR, And money hatting third party like RE7.... Which was pathetic to do considering VR needs as much audience as possible!
These are both really poor comparisons. It's not just that tracking is inaccurate with PSVR 1.0, it's that it's literally using a single position to track some balls on a ps move controller. The types of experiences you can have on a PSVR are technologically limited because of that. It's not the same as 'well the graphics are worse' like a cross-gen game. It's "Hey, you literally can't have room scale"
VR biggest problem is the lack of AAA productions for it, by SONY own In-House studios. It's very much like the Mega CD. When most of SEGA's time and effort was on the Mega Drive at the expense of the add-on (bar a few amazing titles) It's pretty much the same for SONY VR even down to the ratio of users who buy the add-on :)
I was surprised how good PSVR looks compared to an expensive PC when I tried PCVR a few weeks ago.
Thought always there are worlds between the two but....LOL
And PCVR has mostly only low budget experiences but PSVR gets stuff like RE7, Astro Bot or Iron Man VR...
Very lackluster xD
I think there are some games that won't need the technology of the newer generation, that can be 'cross gen'. But if a new generation offers something that most or all games really need to adopt, that will only hasten the software transition IMO. I don't think devs will hold on to the idea of supporting the first gen for very long if an audience is building on the new generation and their vision really needs what it has to offer.
That's still not what 6DOF defines. The controllers are tracked in angle and position on 3 axes each, full 6DOF by definition. The range isn't part of that.
You can of course say PSVR lacks room scale and 360° tracking (for the controllers), that's a well known fact. But room scale is way overrated IMHO anyway, because only a handful of people have the room to scale in the first place.
Personally I never really cared about BC ,but for any kind of VR support I'm all for it, even tho I don't have VR yet but Im a believer of the VR future.
If PSVR 2 is based on inside out tracking it can offer room scale easily and everyone is happy. That's not my point to say it's bad, it just shouldn't be the main focus.
Roomscale would just be a hardware capability to tick off to insure people can devote as much space as they'd like to move around in without hiccups. Games like Superhot really benefit from having 7 or 8 feet wide/deep of open floor- IF you're using a roomscale-capable VR system. Otherwise on PSVR there's a loss of tracking if you get too close, too far, or turn around.
Roomscale will also be universally beneficial for the ability to turn for real instead of relying on a button or thumbstick.
Roomscale will also be universally beneficial for the ability to turn for real instead of relying on a button or thumbstick.
I own all 3 as well (and an Oculus Go). PSVR is definitely 6dof. It's tracking isn't necessary the best (and isn't officially "room scale"), but it definitely supports all 6 degrees of movement (forward/back, up/down, left/right, yaw, pitch, roll).
Things like the Oculus Go or Samsung Gear VR aren't 6dof.
The PSVR BC was the best news for me to come out of the PS5 article. It gives the current headset more lifespan, and ensures that I can mostly keep using it and upgrade to the newer headset at my own pace.
I really hope Sony is able to make PSVR2 an inside out headset at an affordable price.
1) New Move controllers (analog sticks and better tracking)
2) Better display (higher res and wider fov)
3) inside out tracking
4) Single cable to PS5 and no breakout box
Those things with a $299 price I'd upgrade day 1.
1) New Move controllers (analog sticks and better tracking)
2) Better display (higher res and wider fov)
3) inside out tracking
4) Single cable to PS5 and no breakout box
Those things with a $299 price I'd upgrade day 1.
Resolution never occurred to me as a problem in PSVR, the wires are the problem.
But thats based on me playing about 60 hours of Beat Saber and 40 hours of Wipeout Omega Collection in VR and both those games have visuals that leave nothing to be desired.
Maybe in other games resolution would stick out more.
It's a huge relief to be sure and really makes adoption of the new console a much easier sell to me.
I do hope they somehow improve tracking and have new controllers in the works.
As for the resolution, even now it's actually quite nice. I've used both psvr and vive and in game the difference wasn't as great as id feared. Sony's got some amazing lenses and I actually preferred them to vives.
I do hope they somehow improve tracking and have new controllers in the works.
As for the resolution, even now it's actually quite nice. I've used both psvr and vive and in game the difference wasn't as great as id feared. Sony's got some amazing lenses and I actually preferred them to vives.
Roomscale isn't 6DOF.
You can turn 180 with PSVR and look directly behind you. Some games even require it.
Not with a motion controller. Sure you can resort to artificial turning so you're always facing forward, but I would never resort to that on Vive because a more natural and immersive form of turning is available in my feet.
Expected? Backwards compatibility is super rare in new generations. Passing on backwards compatibility for a new console is the norm.
Where did you get that idea? I've played high budget games on my VR headsets. And how is Astro Bot a high budget game?
This is how I play RE7 on PSVR. Just by turning my body. PSVR headset has 360 tracking, but unfortunately the controllers do not.
Depends on the game as to how much of a problem it is though based on how they choose to work around it's limitations.
A little late but expect them to use an adapter. Microsoft did the same with Kinect and Xbox One
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What? I assure you that you can rotate your view 180 degrees, by rotating your body or head.
I also prefer the PSVR image quality to the Vive. I might prefer it over the Rift even... RGB sub-pixel structure really made a difference to me.
He said "Not with a motion controller". If you rotate your body 180 degrees, sure that can be tracked. But your controllers cannot be tracked once you've done that, because your body will be between the controllers and the camera. Oculus' default sensor configuration, where you place the two cameras in front, have the same issue, though not nearly as bad since they are two better cameras with a combined better field of view, and the controller LED ring larger than the Move balls.
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You're probably right, unless adding that AUX port is super cheap.
Thoughts and prayers. Thoughts and prayers.
Expect Sony to use a different tracking system for PSVR2 and Move 2, but pray they make a light-orb attachment so the old PS Camera can see both the old HMD and the next-gen Moves. I think that's the best case solution for the worst-case scenario.
Yup this is great.
Looking forward to seeing all the improvements of the PSVR2 when it finally gets announced, but it'll be great to be able to play these games and new ones with a hardware boost in the meantime.
Yeah.