Sony's Fortnite crossplay account block is now covered by mainstream press [Sony Responds]
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Its all PR BS not sure how its better when its beating around the bush. I wouldn't pay attention to it.
I don't think you actually understand the underlying issue here.
If they really want to bring on the cross platform future, they may be willing to lose those sales. Most likely not since it's all about the money.
Free to play games dont need plus. Been this way since launch
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Anyone that thinks any giant corporation is 'good' or 'for gamers' is so naieve. Both Nintendo and MS have been heinously anti-consumer in the past.
I don't mind them trying to remain "competitive". But, I think this game currently is too big to ignore. Every business has to make exceptions. Understanding that they have had massive data breaches in the past (so this may call their networking infrastructure into question and rightfully so)however, they must overcome that and move forward.
Also I much prefer this(no console platform crossplay) over 24 hour drm checks. Just gonna leave this one here.
Also I much prefer this(no console platform crossplay) over 24 hour drm checks. Just gonna leave this one here.
Who's to say it has ANYTHING with this current issue? That's Sony as a whole. Not PlayStation. That is possibly disingenuous.
Nintendo shares dropped after their direct.
Most people have a PS4 because
A) It was 100 dollars cheaper
B) It was objectively better performance wise
Those are the only two things that really mattered at launch.
You are trying to protect Sony's diminishing reputation even though they are basically breaking the law right now.
You tell me.
I read the tech section of the USA Today. People who read USA Today know all about their sections, and if you click on "tech" from the main USA Today homepage (which is right on the USA Today taskbar), it shows up in the main stories. How is this hidden in any way?
Not immediately but these things over time have impact if not nipped in the bud.
At this point I'm beginning to think that the way Epic set up cross-play is directly linked to the account migration. So no cross-play, no migration.
It's the only thing that makes sense to me. I guess I can't believe Sony would be so stupid.
From what I've seen of Nadella and Spencer I don't agree with this. This isn't 2013. Social media rakes you over the coals for shit like this. It isn't in their best interests to go back on everything they're doing and saying now.
More people are arguing in here than actively trying to do anything.
We'll see what happens in the coming days, but don't be shocked when the media moves on after putting out their little articles today about it.
I don't think having a different opinion on the situation can be considered as being 'concerned' about Sony.
I'm not buying a Sony console next gen unless stuff like this changes. So yeah, this did cost them one console sale.
It's really not, this isn't 2008.
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Wait...how are they breaking the law right now? Did I miss something bigger than Fortnite crossplay?
I mean, people on GAF were also claiming how the Pro lacking 4K Blu-ray support would be the complete and utter death nail to it and how the S would gain lost ground.
Like, I'm sure there will be some who stick to their words, but a sample of size of people heated in the moment isn't exactly reliable. :P
I would add exclusives to that. The tail end of the PS3 lifecycle renewed confidence in people.
A) Maybe, but that was definitely not as big of a part of the conversation as everything else was. But yeah, definitely helped.
B) Nah, I don't think that was part of it at all. PS3 was objectively better performance-wise too, wasn't it? That didn't even help PS3 initially stay on-par with 360's sales.
I think the message has way more to do with it than what's on-paper.
That's my thought as well. Epic would need to rework their backend which could take some time. It'd just be easier if Sony caved on cross play so they could flip a switch.
Not saying they'll ever go back. But they are trying to say stop putting faith in even people like Spencer. He's just one man. Not a corporation. And Corporations will do anything to get and keep your money. Also Phil won't be there forever.
I feel like they're the only ones who will get Sony to budge, and as I'm typing this I hear Ian from Easy Allies bringing the same point.
Like, Bungie and Ubisoft have no issues between Destiny and Division iirc. I get not being able to use equipment and such, as that may be more on the platform memory than on the account (I don't own Fortnite), but there's no reason for the accounts themselves to be blocked.
And while I'm not going to shift the blame from Sony entirely to Epic, they are culpable. The account blocking can only be taking place from their end. Sony can demand all they want, but ultimately they don't control the accounts and servers.
Eh... I think the main reason the Battlefront issue was wider was because it affected everyone that played the game. This doesn't, not even close. There are a relatively small number for whom this situation absolutely sucks, but most will continue to play Fortnite in precisely the same way without knowing (or all in likelihood caring) about what is, frankly, a pretty awful mess.
Ultimately I think you exaggerate the size of the crossplay issue. You have to remember that, in this case, Sony are simply being conservative, sticking to a status quo that people are content with. There is no parallel to Microsoft proposing DRM in 2013, a move which damaged the Xbox launch immeasurably, where they wanted to change things from the way they always were.
For this to become a major issue, those that are for crossplay are going to have to prove how great it is, at which point Sony will seem like they're standing in the way of change. We're years from that happening, frankly, and that's not really Sony's fault. There are what... three high profile games that are pushing crossplay?
It doesn't matter.
The entire industry is going crossplay.
This issue is going to get worse and worse for Sony.
You're right that they could have just went full on "We're in the lead, and you'll complain, but at the end of the day you'll always come crawling back to your PS4. We own you" honesty.
That's what every mega corporation actually thinks, but it's understandable that they don't actually just say it. :P
Agree. Can't believe people are falling for "good guy" Phil. All companies have their anti-consumer issues. Nintendo binding content to toys, MS not offering real free to play, and Sony locking out accounts.
Me suggesting that this probably won't have the big of an impact on their reputation is protecting their reputation? Okay then.
Couldn't care less about their reputation, nor am I concerned in anyway. If I happen to be wrong and this has a fallout that impacts their position in the video game space and that results in another console becoming more attractive next gen, then I'll buy that console instead. Same way I go about it every gen.
Not if people confine themselves to staying outraged on forums like they've done when it came to Rocket league and Minecraft.
The PS3 wasn't even close to cheaper though.
The difference between 500 and 400 dollars is massive especially when one isn't as powerful as the other.
If you buy something on a pc account and then suddenlySony locks it to ps4 sans warning so you can no longer use it on pc just because you logged in on a ps4, well that sounds like theft to me.
It's not about putting faith in Spencer, it's about understanding that Microsoft is a fundamentally different company than they were ten years ago, due in large part to the influence of people like Nadella and Spencer.
Gamers had their purchases essentially stolen from them by Sony.
PC Epic Account holders who have purchased items on PC and linked their account to PSN has discovered that their purchases CANNOT be transferred to XBox One/Switch.
Ok? so take my younger brother (14) and his friends who can't play with each other because of this garbage. Future console purchasers. Who you think they're gonna go with when the time comes?
Well, i think that if sony dont react now, it wont matter much ultimately. But it sets up for a very interesting next gen.
If MS keep pushing this "openness" and sony dont, you might see more and more people buying xbox/pc/nintendo versions of games regardless of who has the marketing deals.
If im MS, i would start pushing this angle next gen, hard.
If MS keep pushing this "openness" and sony dont, you might see more and more people buying xbox/pc/nintendo versions of games regardless of who has the marketing deals.
If im MS, i would start pushing this angle next gen, hard.
Like I said. You have people more willing to dig in on either side than actively try to change this while also giving hot takes about what is going to happen in the future.
Do you have a netflix account?
I assume if you do you have it tied to multiple devices, your consoles, your cellphone, your smart tv, etc.
Now imagine you log in to your netflix account in your cellphone but it says "can't access this account because it is restricted to your PS4", oh shit, you forgot you watched some movie on the PS4! now if you want to have netflix on all your other devices you need a second account.
That's exactly what's happening here, Sony is punishing consumers who used their Fortnite accounts on the PS4, fortnite is a 3rd party application that is supposed to have portability among all platforms it is available at, sure sony can block crossplay all they want, but blocking your Fornite account which should be compatible with all platforms is not okay and it's vile, specially if you have invested money on fortnite, now if you want all the shit you have on your PS4, which i repeat, should be tied to your fortnite account and thus all platforms, you will need to pay again.
This is what is being reported, this is why there is outrage.
I agree the locking people out of accounts needs to be fixed immediately But I am not willing to give up 5-7 years of wonderful entertainment over crossplay.
Wow, did you really just try to shill for Sony that blatantly? That's not related to the topic at hand at all.
Are these sources new?
http://fortune.com/2018/06/14/sony-playstation-fortnite-nintendo-switch/
This shit is blowing up.
http://fortune.com/2018/06/14/sony-playstation-fortnite-nintendo-switch/
This shit is blowing up.