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SPOILERS - Second Super Smash Bros. Ultimate DLC Fighter Datamined
- Thread starter MondoMega
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If you choose to believe the rumor the DQXI hero is going to be an alternate outfit anyway so it's a moot point.
I thought the alternate outfit was the female version of Erdrick?
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Sakurai stated he didn't want to pick any more characters who were only popular in 1 region after Lucas, & Lucas was solely added because Sakurai didn't know Mother 3 was Japan-only until after the roster was finalized.
Granted, that one rumor stated that Nintendo's trying to make Dragon Quest popular in the West for the 14th time or something. Again, they literally couldn't give that game away over here back in the 80's, but they seem hellbent on making us care. If Nintendo's picking the DLC, I can see this being the time to add a DQ character, & my guess is that they will pick a Western character with no relevance in Japan to balance it out (Another point in Doomguy's favor).
But DQ is not just big in terms of sales, it is a legendary gaming franchise that pioneered a genre and has deep ties to Nintendo.
Man after seeing the rumored DLC lists I really hope we get a Fighter Pack 2 that's just Sakurai's picks. I don't think I appreciated his decision making process until seeing the possibilities of what Nintendo has actually chosen
I'd be willing to bet that Dragon Quest makes similar, if not better numbers in the West, than Bayonetta.
Steve doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I doubt Nintendo has much to gain by promoting Minecraft at this point.
Now, DOOM Eternal...
Now, DOOM Eternal...
There are at least two Dragon Quest games releasing in 2019 on the Switch. Builders 2 and DQXI
It'll be a big year for Nintendo and Dragon Quest
It'll be a big year for Nintendo and Dragon Quest
Make it 2B, Dante, and Crono and we have something good going.
I really don't get the weird kneejerk reaction against some Minecraft representation in Smash. It's visually interesting, in absolutely iconic, it's fun, it brings more diversity, some representation from the west and the indie scene where the game originated... It's just so good, it ticks all the boxes. Imagine how fun and inventive the moveset of the Minecraft guy could be, the assist trophies being ennemies like the Creeper, how creative the stage would be... Minecraft is one of the most perfect franchise to get in in terms of relevance and creativity.
Yet people act like it's lame or in bad taste or something. It's annoying how the majority of people in these circles cream themselves over Joker, a human protagonist from a very recent game and then just act like Minecraft isn't some relevant and fun franchise. I'm sorry but I want to see the Smash treatment for it, because I know we'd be in for a treat, over some cool protagonist that has the "street cred".
Yet people act like it's lame or in bad taste or something. It's annoying how the majority of people in these circles cream themselves over Joker, a human protagonist from a very recent game and then just act like Minecraft isn't some relevant and fun franchise. I'm sorry but I want to see the Smash treatment for it, because I know we'd be in for a treat, over some cool protagonist that has the "street cred".
Think I'm more interested in the fact that there's already even data for this mystery character and that they're apparently in development, if stuff like their weight and run speed being in there is any indication.
Are these three coming out at the same time??
Are these three coming out at the same time??
The problem is DQ is really only big in Japan. It's not a problem for Nintendo to want to use Smash to promote DQ for Square Enix, but it might explain why Sakurai wasn't in a hurry to have the series represented in Smash.
Bigotry towards LGBTQIA+ individuals & denying Japan's WWII war crimes is a bit more than just a "bad opinion," chief. Sure, most games probably have someone sketchy working on them, but usually it's something we don't know. Sugiyama wears his hate proudly on his sleeve, & we know for a fact he throws the money he makes from DQ's music behind it.
That's more than enough reason to not want a character, & this is before getting into how boring DQ is as a series, & how this feels like yet another ill-fated & ill-advised attempt by NoJ to sell DQ to an uncaring America.
True... I was just feeling hopeful about Geno finally getting the turn Sakurai's been unintentionally teasing since Melee.
Oh, you know they made sweet, sweet love after walking into the sunset.
Of note from that list is Falco, who, despite being popular in fanart & fanfiction, is canonically asexual (As is the Doomslayer).
I personally love Minecraft but just think Steve is ugly and boring. I think Minecraft is best represented as a stage or a Creeper assist trophy. That said, there's a ton of moveset potential and if it happens, I won't be bothered. I won't be excited, but I won't be bothered.
Joker and Erdrick both bother me a ton.
Sugiyama is not "employed" by Dragon Quest, he is one of the owners of Dragon Quest.
Dragon Quest is literally a huge culture in Japan, its influence is huge and not only on gaming. There is no bigger IP to include in Smash than DQ. Though Hayabusa is one of the characters I want in Smash as well, and he would be the best KT rep representing both classic and newer Ninja Gaiden series.
I wasn't really talking about sales, in popularity DQ is really huge. Capcom has lots of series I would want to see in Smash, but I guess it would be hard to put many more of them in Smash. Mega Man "fits" the most out of the ones you mentioned. Though I expect Monster Hunter to come as well as that is huge right now as well.
Erdrick/Loto is the name of the protagonist of DQ3, not DQXI. The rumor I read mentioned the character to be based on Erdrick with a female alt and DQXI alt as well. Didn't read about Minecraft (I hope that's fake).
This is it in a nutshell. Dragon Quest is generic as fuck and Erdrick has a terrible design.
Piranha Plant had data already in the game when the game released, though it's been changed in this new update. I don't think it suggests the characters are coming at once.
In Smash 4, Cloud and Bayonetta had parameter placeholder data a whole seven-eight months before they got revealed (though it wasn't as defined like this), and they were released several months apart.
The potential of a Dragon Quest character is specifically the reason why I chose not to buy the fighter pass, so while I would have preferred it not happening at all I'm at the very least glad that I chose to not buy it on impulse
Regardless, it would seem that Nintendo was set on choosing characters that could serve as advertising, and third-party ones on top of that. Probably something to keep in mind for speculation (assuming we don't get more obvious codenames in later updates)
Regardless, it would seem that Nintendo was set on choosing characters that could serve as advertising, and third-party ones on top of that. Probably something to keep in mind for speculation (assuming we don't get more obvious codenames in later updates)
I don't think they'll come with Piranha Plant (he's only a month, maybe less, away), but I could see both Joker and Erdrick being released at the same time, like how Roy/Ryu/Lucas and Bayonetta/Corrin were released at the same time.
The characters in Minecraft are ugly as sin. The world is visually interesting. I'm all for a stage.
This was probably meant to set the record straight but if it was trying to make me feel better about DQ being in Smash then it really doesn't and only made it worse.
Minecraft stage, BUT Banjo and Kazooie as playable characters is how I'm willing to compromise.
Thousands of people make Dragon Quest games, no single dude no matter how horrible he is would stop me from playing them.
Just don't think the game warrants an actual character. Stage, boss, or Assist Trophy would be cool but a character would be a total nothing. If nothing else Smash hasn't done anything with Tetris for ages even though it has some music in it since Brawl and Tetris is more noteworthy than Minecraft.
For one thing I think people would have an easier time accepting aMinecraft rep if they would stop calling him "Steve". The protagonist would come in different presets, as they usually do in Smash. And its weird appearence would make for a fun and inventive moveset. Could you imagineif his up+b would be to make a collumn of dirt to climb, like millions of people did in 2010 when they discovered the game? II think it would be funny and pretty fucking cool. These are the things I'd expect from Minecraft representation.
If Steve ever got in, I'm actually genuinely curious what they'd do for Minecraft music in Smash since it's mostly all just ambient songs.
Somehow, I doubt this. And I'll fully admit Bayonetta sells poorly here.
I envy your patience...
The character himself just looks boring, though. I don't personally care for him, nor can I get hype vicariously through friends like I could for, say, Banjo. I'm sure Sakurai could make an interesting moveset for Steve, but he made an interesting moveset for ROB. His talents are better spent elsewhere.
Agree. Early Toriyama is so much more endearing.If it's a DQ rep/Erdrick as people are saying then he better look like this:
and not this:
OP
OP
I imagine they would probably have multiple remixes and as few rips as possible.
or they rip music from other Microsoft titles
Same thing they did with Animal Crossing music, remix the crap out of it
Music from Microsoft's properties, like Gears of War, Halo, and Kinect Sports.
My only reward for getting the fighter pass is paying $25 for a caricature for a character that I actually want. If I have to pay $25 to get any noteworthy Xenoblade 2 representation then Nintendo can eat my ass and I'll just get the few characters I want like Joker.
Increase the tempo 10x and blast them out on a trumpet. Seems to be the standard formula for adapting chill songs for Smash.
I love Dragon Quest and DQXI was my GOTY, but fuck them getting in until Sugiyama and his nonsense sorts himself out. We could get amazing songs from that series (Sugiyama is an asshole but he admittedly has talent, he phoned it the fuck in for DQXI though) but we're gonna get shit midis. Nature needs to take its course already.
That one dude partially owns and makes tons of money off everything Dragon Quest that is then funneled into promoting his political agenda. It also doesn't help that he has been shit at composing since VIII
He's one of the ones that makes the most money, though. I can't give you the name of a beta tester for that game, but the OST apparently is no small part about Dragon Quest.
It's not just the name. We have a Simon, a Robin, & a Larry.
Naw, Mega Man deserved that pick with ease. Mega Man should have been in the shit before fucking Snake.
What if Sakurai appears on Microsoft's stage at E3 to announce Master Chief in Smash and then Phil appears in Nintendo's E3 direct to announce Banjo in Smash. Sony would be quaking.
I think it's the other way around, they benefit by promoting Smash to the Minecraft audience. It might sell some extra copies to those who don't have Smash. And at the very least, it's a good business by selling the DLC pack to Minecraft players who already have Smash, I bet there is a sizeable overlap.