I'm surprised they're trying to feign coming out with the beta in 2020.Wow Squadron 42 not even going to feign coming out in 2019, just skipping straight to mid 2020 for Beta. Unreal.
Deflection implies there's something to deflect, I said I enjoyed the game in the current state, you replied with "watch this hour long series on why you are wrong"
Like I said, lazy.
I need proven development and project management results to believe a game will release in a certain timeframe. This project has been a burning car crash since it began. One hour means nothing in the context of everything else. The PU is a mess devoid of content, btw.
Someone clearly doesn't know the definition of a tantrum.Please keep up the tantrum because you refuse to look at contrary arguments. It's extremely funny.
What's funny is how mad you are that no one wants to watch your youtube video.Please keep up the tantrum because you refuse to look at contrary arguments. It's extremely funny.
I'm sure there's no more then a little more air exhaled out of your nose, with this "funny". You need to search up what a tantrum is as that is not it.Please keep up the tantrum because you refuse to look at contrary arguments. It's extremely funny.
Citation needed.I don't undestand the support this game is getting. It's just beyond me. So much money and so little done...
You say this, yet said you're entirely confident based on a video that this'll be set in 2 years? Okay. You're entirely right that big projects are notorious for delays. That's all the more reason to be skeptical.
Again, I do hope everyone ends up with a freaking great game, because the scope is incredible. But falling for any kind of timing promises after the past 5 years of things is ignorant.
Am I reading this right? They are spending 40-50M USD per year, with about 14M in the bank, so... they HAVE to keep the pledges up or they would essentially go out of business in a matter of months?
(before taking on the investment, ofc, and no numbers for 2018 yet)
We operate very much like a live product. What we do is every year we forecast what we'll be doing over the year, and that sets our spending targets. Generally we've been incredibly accurate on our forecasts over the last four years. We maybe had two to five percent deviation from our forecasts, which is pretty decent.
Yes, you could say, "You have $20 million in the bank, and that's only so much for operations." But there's not ever been a case where we've gone to zero dollars. There's no history to say we would do that. That's kind of like me saying — yes, if Electronic Arts didn't bring in another cent, they'd be out of money in short order, because they have pretty heavy running costs.
So... given their financials and burn rate you can estimate they will run out of money in 2020. I guess that's why the are planning to release the game in that year!
They just got $50m for a 10% stake.Am I reading this right? They are spending 40-50M USD per year, with about 14M in the bank, so... they HAVE to keep the pledges up or they would essentially go out of business in a matter of months?
(before taking on the investment, ofc, and no numbers for 2018 yet)
I mean... 8 years for a BETA of the Single Player part of the game and a some peoples clapping like is the second coming of Jesus is reaaaally weird... also attacking ferociously the people that say that something is wrong here.Or are just tired of the amount of shitposting and lies when the game is playable and the development is pretty transparent.
Seriously, noone attacking it read the OP.
If Rockstar was as open with their development as CIG as been people would literally call EVERY single one of their projects failures. Hell even ND fans would call their projects failures. There's an aggressive amount of stupidity and peddling of misinformation in the gaming community when it comes to game development and Era unfortunately isn't very far from that at all whenever a dev goes in depth about the development of a title outside of a heavily curated five minute dev diary video.
The rhetoric in this thread is the equivalent of:Wow that is alot of information to process. And holy hell is this thread a dumpster fire. How many people actually took the time to go over the info before actually posting? LOL.
And then people would be saying they're not putting the money into development and want to keep 50m and run if the project turns bad.Sure, but the risk situation is a bit different when you compare an established publisher that is working on 20-30 projects at the same time. Didnt think they were cutting it that close this whole time.
yeah, I dont care about what people say about that. Im just surprised from a business/developer point of view.And then people would be saying they're not putting the money into development and want to keep 50m and run if the project turns bad.
Someone literally posted "I wonder how much money they wasted"Wow that is alot of information to process. And holy hell is this thread a dumpster fire. How many people actually took the time to go over the info before actually posting? LOL.
I don't think they understand you. Can you simplify it a bit more for them.
Tech is not only about shiny graphics You know.It will be really sad when it finally launches and there are 10000 more ambitious games out there using next gen tech
yes, they will get a great space sim and sp game. I am happy for them.I'm just happy that all of the SC defenders will in the end get exactly the game they deserve.
I mean... 8 years for a BETA of the Single Player part of the game and a some peoples clapping like is the second coming of Jesus is reaaaally weird... also attacking ferociously the people that say that something is wrong here.
Beta of the single player.Im confused. This is just the single player and not even the full game?
Im confused. This is just the single player and not even the full game?
Supporters keep on saying "But look at the roadmap!". A roadmap doesn't really mean anything if they can't keep to their schedule. Have they shown any ability whatsoever to hold onto any of their project milestones?
I am so glad I stopped myself from backing this when it was first announced. I'll be glad to get my hands on it in 2042.
So you didn't bother to do any actual research at all and are just repeating old shitposting? Qulle surprise.I mean... 8 years for a BETA of the Single Player part of the game and a some peoples clapping like is the second coming of Jesus is reaaaally weird... also attacking ferociously the people that say that something is wrong here.
Yeah this game is never coming out. I wouldn't be surprised if it gets cancelled tbh.
YesHave they shown any ability whatsoever to hold onto any of their project milestones?
Stop posting until you read the OPI mean... 8 years for a BETA of the Single Player part of the game and a some peoples clapping like is the second coming of Jesus is reaaaally weird... also attacking ferociously the people that say that something is wrong here.
they are actually ahead of schedule on the roadmap at the moment to boot which is nuts.
It's actually the complete opposite considering some guy got banned on this very same page for antagonizing me because I had the audacity to say that I fully enjoy the game in it's current state.also attacking ferociously the people that say that something is wrong here.
It shows that, at a $500m valuation, and with plenty of shares to spare, they probably have the means to get a lot of funding before worrying about going under. That's ignoring that they haven't needed investors for operating costs, of course. There's no reason to believe that they'd run out of money, and only evidence that they wouldn't.Isn't that $50m strictly for marketing though? The original posters were talking about operating costs.
For example, initially it was just a Wing Commander game. Just piloting stuff. Since then, they added a full First Person shooter into the game, with both regular on foot combat and Zero-G combat (and the ability to seemless transition from Airship battle to space walk to zero G FPS to regular FPS without loading screens ) and other Vehicles aside from just space ship. Also full on space combat with ships controlled by multiple players on different stations. Some ships you can't even fly without a crew... which also led to needing an entire suite of AI Crew that you can hire and use to main stations at your ships, which also requires all of that to work on the Singleplayer game as well as the online multiplayer MMO.
So... yeah, its big.
I would have understood Star Citizen reaching beta in 2020 but I have to admit feeling gutted that it's actually S42 that's purportedly trying to hit that milestone. So goodness knows when Star Citizen will reach beta.