What do you mean the box office performance doesn't matter? You don't spent 200M and get 2B, then 1.3B off of mixed or bad word of mouth. We're not talking opening weekend numbers, we're talking final, WW numbers.
Because you're trying to use them to prove that the movie made billions because the majority liked the film, despite the fact that everyone who has expressed a negative opinion for the past two dozen threads on Reset also bought their tickets to add to that box office gross. I sure as hell didn't get a refund because i didn't like the movie and I'm sure most everyone else didn't either. We just went speak negative words about what we saw.
They took our money and you're using that money to somehow prove that it's great, despite the fact that it made less than the first movie (if positive sales means good impressions from everyone, thus negative sales means bad impressions. amirite?). Whereas the weekly box office take actually would show how well the audiences received the film, because word of mouth is actually a thing. If it hadn't been for TLJ's great opening week, it wouldn't have done as much money as it did, because ticket sales fell dramatically based on the performances of past SW movies, including Rogue One.
That doesn't mean no one disliked TLJ. It just means the vast majority of people enjoyed it. It's got a CinemaScore of "A". Online reviews are a bad way to get an idea of how the audience enjoyed the films. They're wildly sporadic; for example, MC is sitting at 46% (3k disliked, 2.3k liked), RT is at 49%, but then IMDB, which has the higest number of reviews by far, is sitting at 7.5/10, or .5 less than TFA. This is not an accurate way of understanding audience reception; there's a reason why studios care about CinemaScore and not RT/MC/IMDB to get an idea of how well moviegoers liked it.
Like other people mentioned, even AotC got high ratings and that seems to be universally reviled (i sure as hell didn't see the shitting way back when, despite being on GAF, chat rooms, and other popular forums back then). That sure as hell isn't a good metric considering how everyone here lowly rates all the prequels and believe everyone should have that view, or else they're trolling or unsanitary. I actually would rate TLJ below the Clone Wars pilot/movie, which is below all the prequels for me, but knowing this, you're probably going ot say everything i said is invalid like others have done here, huh?
There is no real evidence that a sizable amount of people disliked TLJ.
You mean this thread with hundreds of posters with negative views in the past 3 threads, side threads, and completely unrelated threads for a month aren't evidence? Or how this forum has had 3 entire threads so far dedicated to people saying its bad and the defense, while the TFA and Rogue One threads weren't even close to this amount of negativity, despite being on a much larger forum?
Or how about all those negative reviews on other places with millions of users, while previous movies had way less negativity?
You're wrong that there's no real evidence, but there's no way to actually gauge how many people liked/disliked it either, considering how flawed their surveying is and box office numbers only prove how much money people spent to see the movie, not how many people went to see it, muchless whether they had a negative or positive view of the movie.
that there's far more evidence to point toward moviegoers enjoying the film.
Here's a nice thing about surveys: you dont have to say anything to them. I've been to screenings where they asked me to do that shit. I've declined in almost every case, because i disliked the movie and just wanted to leave or didn't want to hurt their feelings. Feels bad that i get awesome goodie bags and i'd only shit on their movie. Nevermind surveys like CinemaScore do this shit on opening night, with people who waited weeks to watched the greatest series ever, so lot of their views are undoubtedly going to be biased as hell. Hence AotC being equally as good as TLJ.
BTW, did you know that toy sales are down for TLJ? Even Rogue One had a better sell through. Hint hint about how well received this movie is if kids aren't trying to play that amazing action seen on screen with their favorite TLJ characters like they did with the other two movies.
BTW, BTW, you can still find Force Awakens toys in most stores despite being on clearance for the past three years and B1G1Free sales. So R1 faced worse sales considering stores didn't order as much product as they could because there were even more TFA toys spreading deadly radiation back then, yet it still did better than TLJ.
