Streamer lara6883 listen and learns to play Dragonforce's 'Through the Fire and Flames' live in under 4 minutes

WhoaIsThatMars · Feb 22, 2019

BoxManLocke said:
Don't be salty guys she's amazing

I didn't say she wasn't amazing. I'm reacting to everyone else's reaction of "OMFG WOW HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?!?!"

As pointed out, she's been playing for 30 years. It's cool what she can do, but is it an incredibly impossible thing to do for someone with her experience?

TylersProphecy · Feb 22, 2019

I didn't even watch but this is impressive even considering almost every dragon force song is at least five minutes long. HOW DO YOU LEARN A SONG IN LESS TIME THAN IT TAKES TO HEAR IT???! Fucking. Amazing.

Awesome Kev · Feb 22, 2019

Joe Shlabotnik said:
There's nothing about the song that is especially difficult to learn how to bang out on the piano (she even says it's just the double-kick and speed that makes it sound scary) but it's still crazy impressive she picked it up in like 30 seconds.

This.

It's still impressive as hell but the chord changes and melodies are predictable. I couldn't have done it (hopefully one day I'll be able to dictate like that) but with enough ear training on melodic/rhythmic dictation there are plenty of musicians capable of doing what she did there.

Joe Shlabotnik · Feb 22, 2019

Teggy said:
Yeah, she's clearly very talented but I caught that too. Seemed a bit sketchy.

Not impossible for a pro musician to see that chorus coming a mile away

Kino · Feb 22, 2019

So cool. That improv medley she did based on songs the chat was feeding her was one of the most enjoyable things to come out of social media.

UltimateHigh · Feb 22, 2019

the piano is a beautiful instrument.

Mirage said:
She is really impressive she did this big medley of songs based on what the chat was calling out.

this is insane.

Camwi · Feb 22, 2019

EchoChamber said:
Wow the only ability I have is jerking off with any of my hands :(

Do you see porn as colors?

kyle mechlachlan · Feb 22, 2019

Joe Shlabotnik said:
Not impossible for a pro musician to see that chorus coming a mile away

Dragonforce's music is so by the numbers that literally anyone who listens to music can see the structure of their songs a mile a way lmao.

Mirage said:
She is really impressive she did this big medley of songs based on what the chat was calling out.

I;m watching this and when she got to the Metal Gear theme i got shivers. Weird how much that piece triggers nostalgic/emotional response still years later.

CortexVortex · Feb 22, 2019

Lara is the GOAT

Ragnorok64 · Feb 22, 2019

Joe Shlabotnik said:
Not impossible for a pro musician to see that chorus coming a mile away

I don't necessarily think it's impossible that in 36 years she's heard the song before even in passing.

Coyote Starrk · Feb 22, 2019

Camwi said:
Do you see porn as colors?

This is so stupid but I laughed like an idiot anyway lol

Spirit of Jazz · Feb 22, 2019

MrNewVegas said:
By being lucky to be born with a gift lol

Whilst that's true with the Synesthesia to have true perfect pitch you almost always have to be taught whilst young and have to keep playing. Whilst there's a huge amount of luck involved there's also a huge amount of skill and dedication.

CthulhuSars · Feb 22, 2019

She is talented and she has from what someone above said perfect pitch and synesthesia. Even with those things what really sets her apart is the 30 years of playing and training. Music is structure and she has dedicated her life to the craft of understanding music. Awesome channel and she gained another subscriber.

Orange Piccolo · Feb 22, 2019

I came in this thread expecting electric guitar. Still, crazy impressive.

Joe Shlabotnik · Feb 22, 2019

Ragnorok64 said:
I don't necessarily think it's impossible that in 36 years she's heard the song before even in passing.

Sure maybe, it's also a completely unnecessary assumption.

What is more assumable is that in 30 years of music training she knows where a basically-constructed song like this is going.

Fisty · Feb 22, 2019

Ragnorok64 said:
I don't necessarily think it's impossible that in 36 years she's heard the song before even in passing.

Yeah I'm going with this, unbelievable to think someone didn't recruit her as a ringer for Rock Band at some point. Shes at least familiar with the track

Wamb0wneD · Feb 22, 2019

WhoaIsThatMars said:
musician knows how to play music. Crazy

That's... not the only thing that's going on there lol.

Sulik2 · Feb 22, 2019

Hero_of_the_Day said:
Sounds cooler than the actual song.

This, that song is really cool on piano and holy shit!

Aftermath · Feb 22, 2019

Cool, I like Lara, check out her Video game music covers on YouTube or livestreams on Twitch

She is really good at playing, I have been following her since last year and recommend her channel.

Also I can't read the chat on my device its too small did Herman Li show up? He also has a Twitch channel and whilst not Linked to Lara but Matt from Trivium is on Twitch and Youtube too and also does Covers (he's the one semi responsible for inspiring and helping Herman Li get set up) and Matt also covered Through The Fire & The Flames as well as many other Songs Acoustically with his own Twist on them

B4mv · Feb 22, 2019

Well she gained a new follower in me. That was amazing.

Bane · Feb 22, 2019

I love her streams. I'll sometimes just put one on as background noise while doing something else.

EchoChamber · Feb 22, 2019

Camwi said:
Do you see porn as colors?

Wow I thought everybody could see porn as colors :o

/s

You killed me with your comment hahaha.

ratcliffja · Feb 22, 2019

She reminds me of a guy I grew up with who also has perfect pitch. He could not only play any note that he heard but he could sing any note that somebody called out. It's like some kind of super power.

BennyWhatever · Feb 22, 2019

So, most of TtFatF is arpeggios and normal chord progressions. Not too difficult for a trained ear to figure out where the music is heading.

HOWEVER
That song is crazy fast and flat out difficult to play regardless of the ear, and the fact that she learned it in minutes is incredible. She's very talented. Just started following her on twitch, so thanks for the vid OP.

Deleted member 48897 · Feb 22, 2019

Synaesthesia is not generally particularly useful for ear training. Perfect pitch can be (certainly helps with figuring out what note to start on) but generally the biggest aid to it all is a lot of experience and familiarity with a lot of genres.

TheChuggernaut · Feb 22, 2019

Dragonforce songs aren't hard to predict and I can buy someone with her talent could easily predict that obvious chores. Like I'm pretty good at predicting a songs chores and I suck

makingmusic476 · Feb 22, 2019

I've been playing music for most of my 30 years of existence (even got a degree) and my god that's incredible blend of talent and skill. The people shrugging this off are crazy.

Ragnorok64 · Feb 22, 2019

Joe Shlabotnik said:
Sure maybe, it's also a completely unnecessary assumption.

What is more assumable is that in 30 years of music training she knows where a basically-constructed song like this is going.

So, to be clear, you are saying the more likely assumption is that a person who has dedicated their life to music for the past 30 years has never ever heard "Through the Fire and the Flames" even I passing and instead is able to accurately guess the chorus? As opposed to believe she's heard it before at some point, but just never actually learned it until now in real time, in 4 minutes.

I mean you could be totally right. Can we get a timestamp on the twitch archive?

Patitoloco · Feb 22, 2019

Wow.

She had it after a minute and a half. Crazy.

What's even crazier is that she nailed the chorus without listening it lol

Deleted member 401 · Feb 22, 2019

Ragnorok64 said:
So, to be clear, you are saying the more likely assumption is that a person who has dedicated their life to music for the past 30 years has never ever heard "Through the Fire and the Flames" even I passing and instead is able to accurately guess the chorus? As opposed to believe she's heard it before at some point, but just never actually learned it until now in real time, in 4 minutes.

I mean you could be totally right. Can we get a timestamp on the twitch archive?

It's not unreasonable to assume she never dipped her toes into power metal.

The Archon · Feb 22, 2019

Well... daaaamn...

Joe Shlabotnik · Feb 22, 2019

Ragnorok64 said:
So, to be clear, you are saying the more likely assumption is that a person who has dedicated their life to music for the past 30 years has never ever heard "Through the Fire and the Flames" even I passing and instead is able to accurately guess the chorus? As opposed to believe she's heard it before at some point, but just never actually learned it until now in real time, in 4 minutes.

I mean you could be totally right. Can we get a timestamp on the twitch archive?

Yes, because that is way less ridiculous than you are trying to make it sound.

This song isn't a Top 40 chart topper. You know it if you're either way into that sub genre or were way into Rock Band a decade ago.

You're also claiming that someone who has a bajillion recorded hours of demonstrations of her ability to actually do this decided to randomly bullshit and fake her ignorance of this one, very uncomplicated song for some reason.

Deleted member 15428 · Feb 22, 2019

Some people can't stand other people being more talented than them

Chasex · Feb 22, 2019

She does this kind of thing a lot. Biggest revelation of this thread is actually that she is 36... certainly caught me off guard anyways.

Ploid 6.0 · Feb 22, 2019

They should have her be the lone pianist for the next The Game Awards, doing new songs for newly announced games in that medley style. Man she's lucky, that's an amazing gift to have.

Ragnorok64 · Feb 22, 2019

Joe Shlabotnik said:
Yes, because that is way less ridiculous than you are trying to make it sound.

This song isn't a Top 40 chart topper. You know it if you're either way into that sub genre or were way into Rock Band a decade ago.

You're also claiming that someone who has a bajillion recorded hours of demonstrations of her ability to actually do this decided to randomly bullshit and fake her ignorance of this one, very uncomplicated song for some reason.

At no point did I say she was feigning ignorance. In fact I quite specifically said "never actually learned it until now."

Does anyone have a timestamp for the stream archive? It's very difficult to try and seek on the timeline, on mobile.

Samara · Feb 22, 2019

My sister in law has the same talent. A few notes and bam she can play it on violin or piano. It's pretty amazing.

HStallion · Feb 22, 2019

muteKi said:
Synaesthesia is not generally particularly useful for ear training. Perfect pitch can be (certainly helps with figuring out what note to start on) but generally the biggest aid to it all is a lot of experience and familiarity with a lot of genres.

Yeah this is my take. Those things certainly aid her but she's been doing this most of her life and its obviously a passion. Still really impressive but she doesn't have super powers, she worked her ass off for something she loves for decades.

MrNewVegas · Feb 22, 2019

Dipro said:
nah, that's hard hard work.

Coyote Starrk said:
Nah gift or not that takes practice and dedication.

BoxManLocke said:
Don't be salty guys she's amazing

Spartancarver said:
This is somehow more disrespectful than those idiots that go around telling every hardworking person that their talent is "god-given" or some bullshit lmao

I'm not discrediting the hard work. 99.9 percent of the population could put in the same work and dedication over a 25 year period and would fail this.

I view the luck factor of being blessed with a special gift as the primary while hard work is secondary. In basketball for example, people over 6'8" hold a huge probability advantage over making the NBA than the average population. No matter how hard a 5'8" person works, people over 6'8" will hold such a large advantage.

So when it comes to something where the competency has reached such heights my reaction when somebody asks how can somebody achieve this I will answer with having a gift.

Saya · Feb 22, 2019

Mirage said:
She is really impressive she did this big medley of songs based on what the chat was calling out.

I'm 15 minutes in this. Incredible.

Spartancarver · Feb 22, 2019

MrNewVegas said:
I'm not discrediting the hard work. 99.9 percent of the population could put in the same work and dedication over a 25 year period and would fail this.

I view the luck factor of being blessed with a special gift as the primary while hard work is secondary. In basketball for example, people over 6'8" hold a huge probability advantage over making the NBA than the average population. No matter how hard a 5'8" person works, people over 6'8" will hold such a large advantage.

So when it comes to something where the competency has reached such heights my reaction when somebody asks how can somebody achieve this I will answer with having a gift.

If you're considering their hard work and dedication as secondary to luck then it's a garbage take.

Plenty of guys in the NBA under 6 ft

Kleefeld · Feb 22, 2019

That's made me tear up, it was that awesome. Usually I don't get that emotional watching people do amazing stuff. The human species is a marvel.

MikeProtagonist · Feb 22, 2019

I discovered her stuff when she did the mega medley and similarly learned Baba Yetu in five minutes. She's great. It's one thing to memorize a song but then also being able to play it, including harmonies, that takes both skill and talent.

Mirage · Feb 22, 2019

muteKi said:
Synaesthesia is not generally particularly useful for ear training. Perfect pitch can be (certainly helps with figuring out what note to start on) but generally the biggest aid to it all is a lot of experience and familiarity with a lot of genres.

She also has tons of experience learning songs in this format.

m_shortpants · Feb 22, 2019

Absolutely incredible.

I started playing guitar 2 weeks ago (something I've wanted to do my entire life), and I can't even comprehend this.

FantasticMrFoxdie · Feb 22, 2019

Mirage said:
She is really impressive she did this big medley of songs based on what the chat was calling out.

this is way more impressive.

jesus christ

Olorin · Feb 22, 2019

Thank you for this OP. Following now on Twitch. Her rerun stream has 670 viewers right now -crazy. She is amazing.

MrNewVegas · Feb 22, 2019

Spartancarver said:
If you're considering their hard work and dedication as secondary to luck then it's a garbage take.

Plenty of guys in the NBA under 6 ft

Explain why, don't just say it's a garbage take.

There are plenty of outliers in everything. This doesn't discredit the fact the probability leans in the favour of those with the gift related to the subject.

rashbeep · Feb 22, 2019

WhoaIsThatMars said:
musician knows how to play music. Crazy

many musicians are quite terrible at picking things up quickly, even if the song itself might be predictable

edit: also want to add her changes made the song better, dragonforce sucks lol

LiK · Feb 22, 2019

Da fuck, that's insane.

Streamer lara6883 listen and learns to play Dragonforce's 'Through the Fire and Flames' live in under 4 minutes

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