I just want to point up that Maol and Coolest never played in the same game together before:
Just in case that I die tonight.
Just in case that I die tonight.
Super Mario Mafia |OT| What Doesn't Kill You Makes You Smaller
- Thread starter Fanto
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If you're town then that's not true. The only alignment you know is YOU so fuck everyone else, living is how you know town lives. This attitude is something.
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==== FINAL DAY 1 VOTES ====
Day Start - Day End
Alexem (5 votes)
Maolfunction - #277
Brazil - #290
jman1954goat - #468
CoolestSpot - #474
Natiko - #478 #482
Natiko - #488
Brazil (3 votes)
Fran - #298 #477
Verelios - #418
CoolestSpot - #466 #474
LaunchpadMcQ - #467
Alexem - #483
Maolfunction (2 votes)
jman1954goat - #160 #259
Alexem - #243 #483
LaunchpadMcQ - #253 #442
Uzzy - #426
Z-Beat - #486
CoolestSpot (1 votes)
LaunchpadMcQ - #80 #149
jman1954goat - #336 #415
LaunchpadMcQ - #442 #467
Fran - #477
Natiko - #482 #488
LaunchpadMcQ (0 votes)
CoolestSpot - #194 #406
Z-Beat (0 votes)
Natiko - #144 #296
Natiko (0 votes)
CoolestSpot - #406 #439
jman1954goat - #415 #468
Verelios (0 votes)
Maolfunction - #83 #277
LaunchpadMcQ - #149 #253
Uzzy (0 votes)
CoolestSpot - #439 #466
Fran (0 votes)
Natiko - #296 #478
Post Counts:
Verelios: 64 LaunchpadMcQ: 62 jman1954goat: 56 CoolestSpot: 55 Natiko: 49 Fran: 46 Maolfunction: 43 Alexem: 28 Uzzy: 18 Z-Beat: 16 Brazil: 14
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Day Start - Day End
Alexem (5 votes)
Maolfunction - #277
Brazil - #290
jman1954goat - #468
CoolestSpot - #474
Natiko - #488
Brazil (3 votes)
Verelios - #418
LaunchpadMcQ - #467
Alexem - #483
Maolfunction (2 votes)
Uzzy - #426
Z-Beat - #486
CoolestSpot (1 votes)
Fran - #477
LaunchpadMcQ (0 votes)
Z-Beat (0 votes)
Natiko (0 votes)
Verelios (0 votes)
Uzzy (0 votes)
Fran (0 votes)
Post Counts:
Verelios: 64 LaunchpadMcQ: 62 jman1954goat: 56 CoolestSpot: 55 Natiko: 49 Fran: 46 Maolfunction: 43 Alexem: 28 Uzzy: 18 Z-Beat: 16 Brazil: 14
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Day 1 End
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Fran has died!
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Bowsette is better anyway.
So is it too obvious to kill CoolestSpot? That was certainly some wild play that ended up killing a townie. I'd like to think that a townie wouldn't be quite so reckless, even on day one, but scum might do that to save another scum.
So is it too obvious to kill CoolestSpot? That was certainly some wild play that ended up killing a townie. I'd like to think that a townie wouldn't be quite so reckless, even on day one, but scum might do that to save another scum.
jman1954goat Why did you vote Alexem? Earlier in the day you stated you were likely to vote for Coolest unless he did something to change your mind, yet when the time came you voted Alexem because of previous experience voting out erratic townies... but then at day end you actually did try and swap to him suddenly despite the risk that presented to causing a potential tie. Walk me through your thought process.
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Just a heads up, you're not allowed to edit posts in the game.
It's just for the sake of the game integrity, we can't let people edit, whether it's to add more, remove more, or even fix a typo.
Fair, I was just adding more actual content rather than shitposting. My apologies.
I was surprised. I had suspicions of them being scum as I mentioned before, but clearly that was not the case.
You mean this:
Which points of Nat's did you agree with?
That Fran appeared to be shutting down discussion of hunting scum on day one, something that I voted Maolfunction for.
I don't know that I put much stock into a Brazil/Coolest team. Coolest was softing his intention to vote for a lower quantity poster after his push for a loud voice gained no traction, so I don't think a vote there was surprising. Coolest more just didn't seem to care much about the outcome either way with the casual vote swap.
Was it shutting down discussion of hunting scum or shutting down mechanics talk. Because they're very different in that case.
Where did I do this.
Go find the exact post and bring it to me where I told people explicitly to not discuss hunting scum on D1 when I spent most of the back half of the day looking for scummy things.
Kind of wondering how much Fran dying had to do with this post. Even though Maol responded after day end, ou might expect Maol and Coolest be in the hotseat today for the comment. It's super WIFOM-y, but just an observation.
Specifically, it was saying that game theory talk was pointless iirc
I'm literally in the spec chat of Scooby Doo the whole game where Coolest did an even more erratic move on D1 by falsely claiming to be a dayvig who killed Fran in that game.
I've read games I've not personally played.
Like I said yesterday it came down to Coolspot and alexem. I feel if coolestspot was mafia there's a higher chance his teamates would tell him to stop Playing wild like he did at the end of the day.
This comment by Fran lead me to switch votes last minutes to coolestspot my number 2 vote option I had no time to really think about the fact that the votes for coolestspot would not be there anyway.
When it comes to causing a tie this may sound odd but I didn't worry about it I never worry about it. while ive only played 1 game here on era years ago I spectated many games on Neogaf and ties never happen. I am committed to voting for who i think is scum every vote and literally never ever think about a tie happening because it most likely won't I have never seen a tie happen in all my mafia watching it just does not register in my brain as a concern.
I understand this is a weird way to view the game because I see others worry about tie votes all the time but I just don't bother worrying about statistically unlikely things.
You misunderstand me. I'm not saying anything about you relative to that post. I was just talking about why Fran might've been killed.
Although you got that response out to my post pretty fast there...
push notifications to my phone, I get notified when someone quotes me so I see them pretty quickly. Throw some more wifom out there though, you've been pretty content to do so the whole game now.
It's the start of the day people should be watching the thread i would be more concerned with people responding slow at this time of the day to be honest
Relax. I wasn't serious.
I would have to go back and check as this was on the basis of Naitko spotting it. The response you highlighted was due to Fran asking me what I felt about the Naitko vote, which really threw me as at the time, Naitko was voting for Fran, and had I voted for Naitko they'd be at the top of the lynch pile.
Instantly on the defensive on D2? I see. Of course, explicitly telling people not to discuss hunting scum would be an absurdly stupid move to make, but arguing that there was no point in doing it certainly happened.
Which led to Alexem articulating my point and argument.
Alexem only moved their vote in an attempt to save themselves, which of course did not work, and we can now all see he was indeed a townie.
I am very curious to know your thoughts on coolestspot. personally i was starting to feel like he might be neutral but the chance of multiple neutrals in such a small game is probably very low.
No one else had 3 votes at the time? Anyway, I posted that response from you because it seemed like the first time you mentioned Fran being suspicious, and the reasoning was mainly what you posted. Unless I'm wrong.
Okay, never said there was no point in the conversations either. Do note where I explicitly say I was perfectly fine with where the day was progressing.
My point in these posts is that the conversations were not useful to catch scum because the behavior people were attributing to players as being townie could easily be scum as well or vice versa. D1 has no tangible hard data that's useful for catching scum. It's all guesswork based on people's behaviors mixed with gut feelings. That's not shutting down discussion, that's telling people to be more aware of how useful the conversations are for actual scum hunting. Stop labeling people as townie for being "active" and "asking good questions." Scum can do these things too very easily on D1.
Iirc Natiko, Brazil and Maolfunction were all on 2 votes, and had I switched Natiko would be on 3, with Maolfunction dropping to 1.
Any yes my initial reasoning was that Fran was also trending towards minimising discussion, which amplified a lot when Fran asked me that question. That sort of 'What do you think about the votes for X' when X has voted for you and is in danger of getting lynched seemed pretty scummy. A way to get someone out the game without much blame falling upon you.
Still, we now know for sure that Fran wasn't scum.
Am I missing your point here? Why would you vote for Natiko? Yesterday you said you did not want to vote for him, after changing your mind from saying you would vote for him.
I was asked by Fran what I thought about the votes for Natiko. I took this as an attempt to make me think about voting for Natiko, which as I said, would have put (iirc) Natiko at the top of the pile for lynching. This was from Fran, who had been identified as a possible scum and was currently being voted for by Natiko. That seemed suspicious to me.
It's not the best, no lol That was why I was willing to consider a late shift because it ventured out of being just a policy vote.
I personally don't think it was even a slip. If the argument is that he would have gained this insight from scum chat that's silly because we had talked about it multiple times in the game thread re: Coolest's meta.
So you believe Maol's post was a slip? Do you still believe that?
I was actually sitting with a vote prepped to swap to Brazil if anyone else moved once Fran and Coolest abandoned that wagon, but there was less than two minutes left in the phase so I didn't have time to lobby for a move and shift without potentially causing a tie (5-3 with me on Alexem at the time). The only thing Alexem did that I found sketchy was the vote for Brazil that he tried to feign wasn't just a preservation vote.