But how do we get people on board if we aren't vocal about it? I'm not sure there are any good solutions that aren't radical and scary at this point.
So no right to privacy either huh?
Watching the US get hijacked by these nutjobs has been depressing and I'm so depressed that I feel protests won't do anything.
The George Floyd protests were the largest our country has ever had and beyond his killer being convicted, all it led to in terms of combating systemic racism is.... doubling federal funding for police.
I'm not terribly optimistic
It's a trap that fake progressives fall into over and over, while Republicans continue to consolidate power.Also interesting to note how the right and their press never advocates for accelerationism and the pointlessness of voting.
This is Republicans fault. The fact that we even discuss what Dems could have done differently is why we lose. It doesn't matter. Results matter.
And this is why you dumb fucks are gonna let this country careen into a ditch while being self-righteous about it.Maybe stop and consider that the Democratic party has been absolutely useless. If the Democrats don't want the left to complain about their actions or inactions then the Democrats need to start appealing to them. That is politics. If you want people to vote for you do things for them. Otherwise don't start whining when you don't get those votes.
Fuck the Bible.
This is the truth.Elections are and always have been to prevent catastrophe. Vote against catastrophy no matter how angry it makes you.
But that's the point of hashing it out, the dems clearly don't know how to get results. If we aren't supposed to figure out how they could have done something differently, how can we know how they should act in the future? Should we just keep on voting for them like we've done for decades and hope they finally figure it out by luck?
And this is why you dumb fucks are gonna let this country careen into a ditch while being self-righteous about it.
Also interesting to note how the right and their press never advocates for accelerationism
So no right to privacy either huh?
Watching the US get hijacked by these nutjobs has been depressing and I'm so depressed that I feel protests won't do anything.
People still in this thread mocking "vote harder" as if that not exactly what white evangelicals did to get everything they wanted.
And a bunch of shit in it is full on make believe
Because they're focused on winning instead of masturbating their egos.Also interesting to note how the right and their press never advocates for accelerationism and the pointlessness of voting.
So… the plan is to vote in 5 months and not to do anything today to protect women who need abortions tomorrow? Great messaging. Really makes me feel represented.
I vote every time. I will continue to do so. It's bad messaging that dems focus on it to the exclusion of almost ever getting a win on anything.
Again, check out the response to left wing protests versus how January 6th happened:
No, see, the states controlled by Republicans that banned abortion and brought this court challenge....it's the Dems fault. Somehow.
Blame the Senate and Manchin/SinemaBut that's the point of hashing it out, the dems clearly don't know how to get results. If we aren't supposed to figure out how they could have done something differently, how can we know how they should act in the future? Should we just keep on voting for them like we've done for decades and hope they finally figure it out by luck?
Coming from someone who said, "Maybe stop and consider that the Democratic party has been absolutely useless." ABSOLUTELY USELESS. That's definitely not a weakass, childish statement.
Again, check out the response to left wing protests versus how January 6th happened:
People still in this thread mocking "vote harder" as if that not exactly what white evangelicals did to get everything they wanted.
And this is why you dumb fucks are gonna let this country careen into a ditch while being self-righteous about it.
This is one of the worst takes I have seen.Maybe stop and consider that the Democratic party has been absolutely useless. If the Democrats don't want the left to complain about their actions or inactions then the Democrats need to start appealing to them. That is politics. If you want people to vote for you do things for them. Otherwise don't start whining when you don't get those votes.
People have voted tho. The leftists you hate so much organized harder to protect rights and get progressive elected where even Democrats opposed them for more conservative picks.And this is why you dumb fucks are gonna let this country careen into a ditch while being self-righteous about it.
With the rights you have as a human now becoming VERY far apart between states, though, how will that work? If someone is at risk of being jailed just for being gay and flees to a blue state, will they just go "though luck" and throw them back over the state line? Or will they go "sure, we will look for this terrible criminal.... But we are busy right now so uhm, see you in 200 years or so".
Coming from someone who said, "Maybe stop and consider that the Democratic party has been absolutely useless." ABSOLUTELY USELESS. That's definitely not a weakass, childish statement.
i dont understand why it stops at state rights. why stop there and not cities, neighborhoods or... individuals. (hey, look at that!)
I'm seeing a ton of women in their 20s saying there's no point in voting.I've noticed that this sentiment comes almost exclusively from people who are not women, who will not be affected by the loss of Roe v Wade. Some of these same posters were doing their best to downplay SCOTUS concerns in 2016.
Everyone who actually gives a damn knows that we need to show up and oppose Republicans at every single election. If we were already operating with that kind of resolve six years ago, this never would have happened.
For the record, no one is saying we need to "vote harder". That's an intentionally disingenuous reframing of the situation that's meant to minimize the folks who aren't yet poisoned by toxic cynicism.
I don't care what Kavanaugh says, he's a liar. The instant people try to say they can't make it illegal the SC will say they can because "state's rights."That will never pass judicial review when Kavanaugh calls it out here as blatantly unconstitutional, those laws will never be implemented.
100% this.The "fuck the Dems" mentality ITT could not more perfectly encapsulate why the right was able to succeed at this.
Conservative evangelicals and Republicans have been on the anti-abortion crusade for *50 years*. And across those five decades, did they ever say fuck the GOP? Did they blast both parties as the same? Did they seriously threaten to vote third party or form a new party or not vote at all? Did they say they would flee the country or burn the system down?
No. They spent 50 years mobilizing voters, electing as many anti-abortion Republicans as they could, kicking those who weren't sufficiently anti-abortion out of the party. They played an extremely long game and won it because they never took their eye off the ball: that the key to making policy is winning elections. No politician was too odious to ally with. Donald Trump should've been the most obvious candidate to run away from; instead they pledged their full support to him and had it pay off dividends. Meanwhile, so many progressive and other left-of-center voters basically spend every two years looking for an excuse not to vote.
Voting doesn't not work; it works extremely well! What doesn't work is this constant attitude of trying to take yourself out of the equation. And it's frustrating that so many on the left still can't learn this lesson when the right is teaching it to us all the time.
This is not a good take. No one deserves this fate. We will fight for it (I'll do my part at least), but that should not be the baseline for "deserving" it.
I'm sure Thomas will write an Op-Ed expressing his deep disappointment when his DeSantis-appointed successor overturns Loving.
The way this is going slavery will be on the table in a few years
I don't understand how getting mad at the left is supposed to accomplish anything either
The presumption is that red states wouldn't enforce it but I have no clue. If they were to issue an arrest warrant it would show up on any background check making it hard for you to find employment or get a line of credit.