Tales of Symphonia Remastered will be 30FPS & 1080P on all consoles (720P for Switch in Handheld)
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Sometimes these old games are designed around frame rates so it's not easy to bump it up to 60FPS.
At this point I am almost sure they lost the source code for the NGC version, and that's why they keep using the PS2 version.
Is that, or they don't really want to work into adding the PS2 content into the NGC version and then remaster that version.
Sure, but this game was actually designed and first released at 60fps.
Is that, or they don't really want to work into adding the PS2 content into the NGC version and then remaster that version.
Sure, but this game was actually designed and first released at 60fps.
lolSeems like I was right this is just a port of the 2016 PC version and they even went and shamelessly renamed the current PC version as "Remastered" on their own EU store:
TALES OF SYMPHONIA REMASTERED [PC Download] | Store Bandai Namco ent.
Commandez TALES OF SYMPHONIA REMASTERED [PC Download] sur le Store Officiel Bandai Namco. Paiement sécurisé.store.bandainamcoent.eu
View: https://youtu.be/_asNhzXq72w
Basing this on the inferior port once again sucks. I'm sure there is some reasonable explanation as to why. But if Bandai Namco won't provide one, then they deserve to be criticized to the moon.
The game started out on GameCube and consistent as far as I know 60 FPS. It then got a PS2 port that let it down to 30 FPS but got additional minor content. That PS2 port has been the basis for all HD ports.
Just absolutely embarrassing to release a "remaster" of a GCN game that runs at half the frame rate on the damn PS4.
Bamco not willing to put in the work. It's much easier to just port the existing 30fps remaster from last gen.
It's coming to PlayStation 5 too!!!!!
edit: nvm no its not i swear i saw a ps5 boxart, my joke is ruined
Spend the 40 on a Brook Wingman XE and use modern controllers on the PS3 instead.
Well, looks like they just lost the sale, then. I was very excited to finally have a remastered version running at 60fps with the expanded content from the Playstation version.
Bamco, what the fuck?
Bamco, what the fuck?
I'd have to imagine the engine code is a big enough mess (For example, Symphonia PS2 had two extra anime cutscenes because Bamco straight up said PS2 was having having issues doing certain scenes in-engine) that they don't even want to put the extra time and effort into sorting it out. Abyss PS2 runs on a modified version of the same engine (and does have 60fps combat, hilariously enough) but is a veritable mess under the hood from what I understand, so I guess that checks out.
Still disappointing since Vesperia's remaster was honestly pretty great across the board in those regards. Should've just done a remake at this point, honestly.
Still disappointing since Vesperia's remaster was honestly pretty great across the board in those regards. Should've just done a remake at this point, honestly.
If there's any slight changes to the game hopefully they get patched into the PC version at least. Would like to play it but the special k release that "fixes" some of it's issues also gave me nothing but a black screen whenever an anime cutscenes showed, including the opening so it more or less made it even worse.
So far this is all I found in the Japanese Website so it's not looking good:So, how much are people betting on this version fixing things the Tales of Symphonia "Fix" patch remediate?
- You can skip cutscenes now
- Improved controls for Elemental Cargo (the ship you use in Tethe'alla)
- The save menu/screen has been changed
- 30 FPS (Yes I'm not kidding they are advertising this as a good point of this game)
Source: https://tosre-nowagain.tales-ch.jp/
I knew it was going to be a slapdash port of the PS3 version. The texture work does appear to be a little better, though.
PS3 version:
PS4 version:
Not sure if they just went over the textures with a sharpening filter, or if it's just due to the higher screen resolution, but the building in the back looks a lot sharper. One thing I noticed is that the PS3 version removed the thick black outline from the character models that was in the Gamecube original version, but there was a bug where weapons still had that thick outline. You can see that bug is still in the PS4 version. I would wager to guess the god-awful buzzing of the roller coaster in Altamira won't be fixed, either.
This was helpful to see, thank you. I wasn't sure if there was a reason to consider getting this version if I owned the PS3 version already.
That said, as much as I loved this game back in the day I'm not sure if the character models gel with me anymore, lol. Not to sound snobbish by any means. I just thought they looked super weird this go around in the reveal when I didn't have any issue with them years ago. Maybe it wouldn't matter as much on a smaller screen if I got it on Switch and played in handheld with the OLED screen.
I think I'll wait for a sale though. Now if we could just get a nice remaster of Abyss I'd likely bite on it immediately.
So, how much are people betting on this version fixing things the Tales of Symphonia "Fix" patch remediate?
"Fixed Zelos' Harem Master achievement not unlocking" lol
The remaster is based of the PS2 port of the gamecube original, which was limited to 30fps. Unfortunately even the PC version of Symphonia can't be increased to 60 because supposedly the game logic of the PS2/remastered version is very tied to the framerate. Someone tried and it caused a lot of weird bugs like NPC models in the overworld making freaky flailing movements constantly.
LOL, if a PS2/Gamecube game, can't be running at 4k/ 60fps, THREE console generations later, than it isn't remastered. Also LOL considering I bought this same product (also packaged with Symphonia 2 ) for like $5 back on PS3 which I can still play today.
I mean... I guess there are low effort ports and now with this there are NO effort ports.
I mean... I guess there are low effort ports and now with this there are NO effort ports.
Symphonia is by far the most popular Tales game worldwide. IIRC it's the only one that's broken a million copies across its releases. Which is why they keep going back to it.
It stinks especially given that Graces really deserves a remaster more.
I'm not seeing a problem here, even people in their land love a good rave.
Naw, they're charging the same price as they did a collection with two games from nine years ago. It's a bad pitch no matter what you call it.
Your numbers are definitely off quite a bit, 11 games in the main series have sold over a million (4 of which have passed 2 million), and Vesperia is actually the highest selling one so far.
Seriously? That's really shitty considering it's $20 on Steam, and doesn't even come with the sequel.
I feel like this game's overall look has not aged well at all.
I wish they'd just go all-in and do a remake if they're going to keep releasing it over and over.
I wish they'd just go all-in and do a remake if they're going to keep releasing it over and over.
Heck if you don't mind 3rd party sellers like G2A you can get the game right now for less than $5
Is it bad i'd rather have Legendia at this point?
I really wouldn't mind it and have it redubbed so it actually has the voice-acting the whole way through the game.
I really wouldn't mind it and have it redubbed so it actually has the voice-acting the whole way through the game.
Vesperia hit 2 million as of definitive edition (With at least a million of that being from the remaster alone), and Arise is already at 2 million a year later.
