I expect some hiccups, it'll run better than xb2 for sure though. I also expect handheld to have some resolution issue like the PS3 had. But will probably run smoother than that version.
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Tales of Vesperia Definitive Edition Announced Coming Winter [Xbox, PS4, Switch & Steam]
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I'd love for this on PC to run as well as Shining Resonance on PC.
(Shining Resonance Refrain is a surprisingly good port, runs at 5k with 100 FPS on my PC, and it supports ultrawide aspect ratio too)
You seriously bump an old thread to ask if the Switch can run a decade old early 360 game?
Not sure if that's a good comparison. Shining Resonance and Ys VIII are probably closer in proximity and run 30 fps with occasional frame drops below that. That's more along the lines I'm expecting. It's a four player RPG with multiple enemies on the screen, not a 3 v 3 tag out fighting game.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking and why I asked. Hopefully the switch will run just fine but it's also having problems maintaining 60 fps with dead cells, so I feel like it's possible there will be some compromises on the switch unless BandaiNamco optimizes the hell out of it and I don't see that in the cards.
How dare you post a question about Switch based on prior hardware history?
The OG Vesperia ran at 60 fps in battles on the XB360. Switch should easily do similarly in handheld. Overworld might still be 30 fps.
Yeah, battles were 60fps on both the PS3 and 360. I'm hoping the Switch version is on par with the 360 in undocked mode but who knows how it'll play.
Depends on it it's a remake or remaster. Either way the Switch will play just fine, but might not be as good as the other versions.
The Naruto Storm games are early PS3 gen games and run significantly worse on handheld. Like 30 fps and 540p or something ridiculous like that. So there's a precedent for Switch not running games at optimal conditions, even from last gen games.
My guess is for Switch:
900p 60fps docked
720p (maybe 540p) 60fps portable.
I'm using BN's previous Switch games as a comparison, since Xenoverse 2 and Naruto were exactly these in res.
1080p 60fps docked would be pretty damn impressive IMO. But how many PS360 games do this on Switch?
I guess the RE Revelations games? But those are actually more based on their PS4 and XBO counterparts and are definitely not super good in performance/consistency IIRC.
900p 60fps docked
720p (maybe 540p) 60fps portable.
I'm using BN's previous Switch games as a comparison, since Xenoverse 2 and Naruto were exactly these in res.
1080p 60fps docked would be pretty damn impressive IMO. But how many PS360 games do this on Switch?
I guess the RE Revelations games? But those are actually more based on their PS4 and XBO counterparts and are definitely not super good in performance/consistency IIRC.
Overworld will probably be 30FPS on all platforms, going by Namco's past history with Tales ports (gameplay is always tied to FPS, so they never improve the framerate when porting).
Switch should have absolutely no issues running this game at 1080p/720p (60FPS in battles, 30FPS in overworld). It's an early 360 game that didn't even push the boat out on that hardware back then. If they don't manage it on Switch, then Namco are doing something very very wrong.
That wouldn't be impressive at all. Going from 720p to 1080p docked with Wii U ports at at least the same FPS is the standard performance delta; and Wii U is already a notable leap over PS360 anyway.
Dark Souls Remastered actually does more than this, going from sub HD to full 1080p, with significantly improved performance. RE:R 1 & 2 also have a res bump to 1080p with improved visuals and frame rate too. Skyrim Switch also runs circles around the PS360 versions as well.
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You say that, but as stated above, this is the same company that made another early PS3 game run 900p/540p on Switch, so who knows. I hope for the best, but I'm expecting the worst right now.
I think back in the day and this was based of the demo the ps3 was running at 1280 x 576. The xbox 360 they added some kind of blur filter
A little rude considering that...
Impressive for a low-effort port. Smash, Mario Kart, Arms... are all 1080@60 and look far better than Vesperia.
Unless the game has lots of graphics improvements compared to 360/Ps3, and the E3 trailer didn't show anything new, I don't see why Switch can run it at 1080@60 fps docked, aside from lack of real effort.
I think using the Naruto Storm games as reference for performance barometer on Tales Vesperia Definitive Edition is a bit poor.
For one thing Tales of Vesperia was developed in-house by Namco themselves so they have more quality control over the end result, keep in mind the Naruto UNS games were developed by CC2 and they tend to favor more visual spectacle over framerate. While Vesperia is the best looking Tales game it still pushed to maintain 60 FPS during combat.
Keep mind the Definitive Edition is based on the PS3 version going by it's content and if the past of other Tales re-releases are to be considered (Tales of Symphonia), then I expect a similar result here.
The PS3 Tales of Vesperia had a native res of 1280x576, Xbox 360 is 1280x720. Both were 30 FPS outside of battle and 60 FPS in battle.
It is not some insurmountable effort for the Switch to at least maintain parity with the 360 version in terms of resolution and framerate in handheld mode. Bare in mind, the Wii U had slightly more hardware grunt over the 360, and the Switch is slightly more powerful over the Wii U, so hardware capability should not be consideration here.
Of course the biggest question of all is who is doing the porting work for Tales of Vesperia DE. If it's in-house Namco, good they shouldn't screw this up. If it's some outsourcing company, then it good reason to be concerned and one would hope they actually put enough care into the project that performance for ANY of the current platforms isn't an issue.
For one thing Tales of Vesperia was developed in-house by Namco themselves so they have more quality control over the end result, keep in mind the Naruto UNS games were developed by CC2 and they tend to favor more visual spectacle over framerate. While Vesperia is the best looking Tales game it still pushed to maintain 60 FPS during combat.
Keep mind the Definitive Edition is based on the PS3 version going by it's content and if the past of other Tales re-releases are to be considered (Tales of Symphonia), then I expect a similar result here.
The PS3 Tales of Vesperia had a native res of 1280x576, Xbox 360 is 1280x720. Both were 30 FPS outside of battle and 60 FPS in battle.
It is not some insurmountable effort for the Switch to at least maintain parity with the 360 version in terms of resolution and framerate in handheld mode. Bare in mind, the Wii U had slightly more hardware grunt over the 360, and the Switch is slightly more powerful over the Wii U, so hardware capability should not be consideration here.
Of course the biggest question of all is who is doing the porting work for Tales of Vesperia DE. If it's in-house Namco, good they shouldn't screw this up. If it's some outsourcing company, then it good reason to be concerned and one would hope they actually put enough care into the project that performance for ANY of the current platforms isn't an issue.
Wild guess is Tri-Crescendo. They've worked on most recent entries and did the Symphonia HD collection.
Namco Tales Studio wasn't in-house actually. And plenty of Vesperia's staff didn't join Bandai Namco Studios when the former was dissolved.
It was Team Symphonia that developed Vesperia.
I wasn't talking about Namco Tales Studio but rather Namco proper.
In the context of an IP which Namco has direct hands on with some of their actual internal staff as opposed to being outsourced to an outside developer that is completely independent from Namco entirely. Such is the case with CC2 with the Naruto Storm games or Level 5 with Ni No Kuni.
If Tales of Vesperia Definitive Edition is also handled in the same manner and isn't outsourced to a porting house, being that a level of quality control is achieved that results in the re-release not having issues. At least that is what one would hope.
"Team Symphonia" was development team #1 at Namco Tales Studio. There were three development teams there. Until its dissolution at the end of 2011 Namco Tales Studio, while fully owned, was physically and legally separate from Bandai Namco. Part of the staff was first absorbed by Bandai Namco Games, then in April 2012 by the newly formed Bandai Namco Studios. Until then the only Tales game developed in-house at Namco proper was Tales of Legendia.
Most late Tales ports were outsourced anyway.
I wonder how this will effect Tales of Vesperia DE then.
I'd think because Tales of Vesperia DE is releasing simultaneously on all platforms it shouldn't have performance issues.
I mean Tales of Berseria and Zestiria had a simultaneous console and PC release and because of that support and patches of any issues rolled out equally.
There doesn't seem to be a case like what happened with Tales of Symphonia re-release. At least that is what I'm hoping for. Even so I don't really forsee the Switch having issues running this game.
There isn't any other Tales-like game on the Switch outside of Shining Resonance I compare to at least.
Troy said the lines of the PS3 content were already recorded just were never used. There is a video interview floating around in which he confirmed the extra dialog was recorded years ago and it just was never used.