Well, I do not really know, as I said I'm not from Pasto, I see that the faces are painted black one day and white the next day?, but according to what I read the carnival is an attempt to unite the races with a lot of history. Then I wanted to hear other opinions because I know that blackface is racism, contrary to what they try to achieve. By the way, English is not my first language, so I apologize if something sounds weird.
Even small villages have Three Wise Kings parades. In the case of Barcelona, Balthazar has been played by a black person (which is the right thing to do) at least since the sixties.This is a huge Three Wise Kings parade thats been around for a couple of hundred years. It's a big one with horses that ends at the palace where the royals hand out gifts for children and its huge enough to get celebrated with a live stream with commentary and there was a simultaneous one in Barcelona.
Not Spanish just 3 second Google, but PR also celebrates the Three Kings Day.
https://www.lavanguardia.com/vida/2....html?utm_source=twitter_lv&utm_medium=social
Apparently it's all major cities in Spain that have a parade.
I'm not defending anything, like I said I just want to hear other people opinions on that carnival, I'm not from pasto but I'm Colombian and although there is high race diversity in my country there is still racism, even from non white people, just wanted to know foreign opinions I guess because well...the local opinions could be short-sighted for the topic . And sorry if I sounded bad, but I did try to say that I viewed as something racist but ironic because they try to do the opposite?10 posts
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"I'm from somewhere that isn't America"
"It's not actually racist"
"English isn't my first language"
If you're gonna try to defend blackface, can you at least be original?
That's where you're wrong bud. As a country founded and thriving on the ideal of genocidal white supremacy, Americans - but especially black and Native Americans - are pretty much doctorates when calling out racist fuckery.I'm not sure how much of it is done to pat one self on the back.
It's probably more of a reaction from Europeans often shielding themselves from criticism for racist behavior. Very often Europeans will defend racist behavior by saying that they don't see racism over in Europe, or the N Word doesn't carry the same meaning as it does in the States.
I don't think America is in a position to be judging many other nations in regards to racism. So I don't think a lot of people are trying to encourage a competition.]
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"I'm from somewhere that isn't America"
"It's not actually racist"
"English isn't my first language"
If you're gonna try to defend blackface, can you at least be original?
Well that's certainly interesting.
This is the second cultural event I've learned about involving blackface. I wonder how many there are.
First time in my life I see that in my country. That's not even the tradition, it's something so weird I can't believe it really happened, but I don't care. Basically cause I don't give a fuck for what the disrespectful people think of my country. You just see a picture and spread your truth, as usual. We've been unlucky for not having tits in that picture too, it'd been banned from here.
Anyways, people calling us racist at the same time than spaniards is hilarious. I don't think american people is racist for chosing a president that wants to build a wall in Mexico. I don't even think american people is dumb for the same reason. I mean, I perfectly could for so many reasons but I'm not going to. Why? First: Respect. Second: a country with 325 million has more morons (pure math) than one with 40 million. And all those morons don't represent the country. Well, I used to think that, don't make me change my mind. Yes, there are racists in Spain, shocking news. There are in America too, so? Is America racist? Why Spain is? A moron is a moron.
Maybe you should first wash your own shit instead of pointing the rest of the world. I live and work in the states, I've seen shameful examples of racism here.
Yeah i know Zwarte Piet. I'm Dutch. Didn't know about this though. Is it similar? Curious about how people from there think of this on this forum.
Edit: just reas about this tradition. Weird it never got mentioned during Black Pete discussions. Or i missed it.
Came looking for an "Americans are the REAL racists, Europeans aren't racist" post, and wasn't disappointed...
I mean, there's like a dozen threads a day about racist shit happening in America. So yeah, we do call it out. Not that it matters, because this is a whataboutism. America being bad doesn't mean Spain can't be bad.
Came looking for an "Americans are the REAL racists, Europeans aren't racist" post, and wasn't disappointed...
I mean, there's like a dozen threads a day about racist shit happening in America. So yeah, we do call it out. Not that it matters, because this is a whataboutism. America being bad doesn't mean Spain can't be bad.
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"I'm from somewhere that isn't America"
"It's not actually racist"
"English isn't my first language"
If you're gonna try to defend blackface, can you at least be original?
Seems to always happen in threads about racism in countries that aren't the US.
You're a god damn idiot if you defend this shit as "culture"
First time in my life I see that in my country. That's not even the tradition, it's something so weird I can't believe it really happened, but I don't care.
Have you seen me defending it?
Do you think trying to tell why something happens is some kind of defense? I hope not cause in that case you are the god damn idiot.
Its okay dude, I get what you are saying, it seems that there is something like that in the caribbean coast tooI'm not defending anything, like I said I just want to hear other people opinions on that carnival, I'm not from pasto but I'm Colombian and although there is high race diversity in my country there is still racism, even from non white people, just wanted to know foreign opinions I guess because well...the local opinions could be short-sighted for the topic . And sorry if I sounded bad, but I did try to say that I viewed as something racist but ironic because they try to do the opposite?
they may be non-white but SA culture was molded by the old caste system with black skinned people and indigenous at the bottom, as usual. racism took a different path there, but it still exists.I'm not defending anything, like I said I just want to hear other people opinions on that carnival, I'm not from pasto but I'm Colombian and although there is high race diversity in my country there is still racism, even from non white people, just wanted to know foreign opinions I guess because well...the local opinions could be short-sighted for the topic . And sorry if I sounded bad, but I did try to say that I viewed as something racist but ironic because they try to do the opposite?
Never been to the states but honestly i think its even worse in Europe. Most people dont even try to hide it.Any fucker who ever said hat racism isn't as big a problem in Europe like it is in America just needs to sit down and be quiet now.
They're commemorating a black biblical character by making themselves appear in a way that no human on earth looks like? The sentiment itself is fucking stupid.So they are black facing because they are commemorating a black man? I mean.. I get the sentiment, but there is a right way and a wrong way.
Gonna need receipts on this.Uh, wasnt Super Bunnyhop caught in something like this? I remember googling his name and Blackface was one of the first autocomplete results.
Uh, wasnt Super Bunnyhop caught in something like this? I remember googling his name and Blackface was one of the first autocomplete results.
hmm, not sure either of them come out of this fight ok tbh, thats a pretty damning photo from Ramos too
looks like dimaria on the left, Ramos in the middleCursed image
If that's really him, well, no one ever accused Ramos of being particularly bright. One of the GOAT CBs but dumber than a bag of rocks.
Defending things like this as tradition has never, ever made sense. It's why bullfighting still exists nowadays
It seems cultural and they are passing out candy? Besides painting their faces, are they spreading bigotry or hurting the image of black people with negative connotations?
I'm uncomfortable with this, but unless there is mal-intent I will just say this is cultural differences and give it a "Its fine. This is fine. THIS. Is fine".
The world doesn't hate black people, many hateful racist ( stupid people that transform fear for someone different in hate basically primitive tribal thinking?) do.I just dont bother anymore, this world really hates black people
You literally said nothing in your post about what that picture depicting being bad or inappropriate. All you did was rant about how people who say Spain has racism issues are disrespectful, pulled some shit about Americans and basically said no one can talk because you have racism too.
If you aren't defending it literally the least you could do is condemn it in your first post which you very clearly did not do.
This is not a fucking condemnation btw.
And no I am not American.
Seriously. And it's Spain so you can't use the "never seen a black person so they don't know better" (Which is BS anyway) excuse.Any fucker who ever said hat racism isn't as big a problem in Europe like it is in America just needs to sit down and be quiet now.