the panels are very hit or miss in terms of uniformity. i had to take 2 sets back. sounds like you got one of the bad ones.
Television Displays and Technology Thread: The ERA of OLED is Now
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Normal people? I used to "watch" a lot of Sky news, then I got hit in the knee with an OLED.
Yeah some variance exists but after a time the same content will degrade the pixels faster and result in burn-in.
People need to know that some content isn't advisable to be viewed on OLEDs. CNN is a big no no.
A guy got burn-in and then the defense force rolled in. Are we the heathens not allowed to participate in discussion?
It didn't work but thanks for the link, could be helpful in the future. ;)
Doesn't local dimming help? I've learned to accept blooming on my Samsung ks9000, where you get full height pillars of bloom so anything is pretty much an improvement if I ever decide to get a new TV
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Vizio 2018 P and PQ series
https://www.vizio.com/tvs/pseries/p75f1.html (1000 nits, 56-120 zones, $1,199.99 - $2,599.99)
https://www.vizio.com/p-series-quantum (quantum dots and claims 2000 nits, 192 zones, 65in only, summer, no price heh)
https://www.vizio.com/tvs/pseries/p75f1.html (1000 nits, 56-120 zones, $1,199.99 - $2,599.99)
https://www.vizio.com/p-series-quantum (quantum dots and claims 2000 nits, 192 zones, 65in only, summer, no price heh)
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In terms of panel uniformity/vertical banding, are there any examples of good or bad uniformity that people have pictures/video of? I have a C7 and I still find mine distracting to the extent where I'm still considering swapping it. But I don't want to bother if I'm just going to get another panel that's the same or worse.
there's a thread on avs dedicated to that over at avs
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ol...uniformity-discussion-banding-vignetting.html
So you changed your viewing habits instead of buying TV that fits your needs?! That's INSANE!
Also, doesn't sky have transparent logo? Your whole situation is weird...
For those with an X900E TV, when using a device like a PS4 Pro (or any PS4 for that matter), when you press the Display button on the remote and it gives you the resolution, does it also say if it's an HDR signal? It doesn't for me and I'm guessing it's not supposed to, but thought I'd ask anyways.
I checked on my TV and I can't find PC mode. It's not under the picture mode settings, am I missing something?
No problem at all. Like I say I've got a streaming box and tend to use the tvs apps instead because it's easier. I only really use the Roku for hdr YouTube
From what I can gather the early android tv was a mess but the latest firmware on this TV is fine.
It sounds more 'made up' than weird. You ain't gonna get burn in watching Sky News.
The thing I always appreciate about these burn-in discussions, is how we who have gamed for years on these sets, without issue, are constantly dismissed yet a rtings video where a panel is deliberately abused is somehow used as a bar of what to expect with normal usage. If I were looking at buying a TV, I would want to know real life experience of owners, not base all my understanding on stress test videos.
It's under the input menu, where you can rename the input and choose icons, choose PC and that enables PC mode.
Low (for gaming) will cause serious black crush, try switching it on and off, whilst on a dark scene, it's very aggressive.
Has the recent Samsung KS8000 update made Youtube worse? I mean before I could play any video on the app and when it loaded/pressed pause it would tell you the resolution/if its HDR at the top right, but now it no longer does that. Instead I have to click on those 3 dots and click on Quality to see what resolution it is playing at, and it doesnt even state HDR anymore :-/
It wasn't exactly viewing, just liked to leave the channel on for background noise.
I think the little sky news logo at the top is red and there's also the yellow scrolling bar at the bottom of the screen. And the huge "breaking news" thing is red like every other news channel.
In regards to dynamic contrast for gaming- ideally set to off with in game options modified for best PQ.
Note: changing from low to medium will require rebalancing in game options.
Test: Gears 4 HDR setting menu - adjust DC and you will see how it affects both whites and blacks.
If however if you need to use DC just recalibrate in game darkness to compensate. Also might be worth increasing colour as it has a tendency to wash colours out, 57 is what I have seen recommended.
Each game will need a little tweaking to find the sweet spot.
Note: changing from low to medium will require rebalancing in game options.
Test: Gears 4 HDR setting menu - adjust DC and you will see how it affects both whites and blacks.
If however if you need to use DC just recalibrate in game darkness to compensate. Also might be worth increasing colour as it has a tendency to wash colours out, 57 is what I have seen recommended.
Each game will need a little tweaking to find the sweet spot.
Well shit, guess I'm getting an xe93 after all. Cancelled the x900e order because I could upgrade to a refurb xe93 for 150,- more. Hyped as hell!
Thanks again, very helpful. If they have any massive FW updates or you have more comments (positive or negative), could you let me know? Thank you!
Would you guys consider this level of tint okay? This is from my 55" C7 that had a full panel replacement recently, was then tested for hours and deemed "fixed" before being sent back to me. It's specifically the blue running across the top and bottom that is bugging me...
Would you guys consider this level of tint okay? This is from my 55" C7 that had a full panel replacement recently, was then tested for hours and deemed "fixed" before being sent back to me. It's specifically the blue running across the top and bottom that is bugging me...
While no set is ever going to be perfect we're talking about an item you spent over $1000 on. If it's bugging you (in real world content) I would get it replaced or fixed. In pictures it doesn't look too bad though.
Was playing Sea of Thieves tonight on my new LG B7. I was sailing with my lights out and it was both nighttime and cloudy, so it was super dark in the game. Suddenly I see tons of vertical bands across my screen, like super noticeable in this dark scene.
Is this normal? Anything I can do?
Is this normal? Anything I can do?
Would you guys consider this level of tint okay? This is from my 55" C7 that had a full panel replacement recently, was then tested for hours and deemed "fixed" before being sent back to me. It's specifically the blue running across the top and bottom that is bugging me...
absolutely not. Return that.
did you take a picture of it? I havnt played Sea of Thieves yet, but some games (Witcher 3, GTAV) who render their skies with a slow dissolving gradient produce banding at certain low light levels. That would be on the actual game side and not on the display side. But not having played Sea of Thieves yet that is just a guess.
Normal. Some sets of the same brand/model have more or less banding. What you are seeing is one of the challenges with OLED and LED. On a LED it is noticeable in a lot of different scenarios. While on the OLED it can also appear in different scenarios based on how bad it is. The situation you are seeing, where is was dark in the game and saw the bands is exactly how i first noticed banding on my set. When I bought my OLED, I specifically looked for banding and felt it was great on my set. But it was not until months later when watching a movie with a dark scene, plus panning that i saw it. Sea of Thieves in certain lighting conditions will show it exactly as you see it. On my set it is not too bad and I can live with it, but it is irritating. My ZD9 however is free of these issues.
No but I wish it could though. You have to do something like action menu -> picture settings, and a HDR tag pops up at the top of the menu if HDR is on. Kinda convoluted.
The guy says picture quality overall on the Q9 better than a OLED. That's odd considering rtings pretty much said the exact opposite.
I do think it's possible for folks to "prefer" one brand's look over others. That reviewer does seem to be high on Samsungs in general (and this year's Q9FN moreso). I mostly trust Rtings and Vincent these days, but I would always base my purchase on a combination of dozens of respected reviews.
Isn't the thread talking about the 2018 set, where as the rting review is for the 2017 set?
I believe the same reviewer was very high on the 2017 Q9 as well
You said the only way to avoid burn-in is to actively avoid static content. That's not the case at all, as many here can attest to.
If you're going to play 500+ hours of a HUD heavy game with lots of red and yellows an not mix in other content, prob not a good idea. I also wouldn't leave my OLED on CNN all day every day.
My OLED gets static content all of the time though, seeing as it's my PC monitor. 9 months and thousands of hours later everything is fine.
I've played tons and tons of hours of games with bright yellow HUD elements, like Destiny 2 and Overwatch too.
Will some people get burn? Absolutely.
Saying it's inevitable and spreading FUD about it is ridiculous though.
Ooooh, I can't wait for us to get some more reviews. My wallet is ready, tell me what to buy internet.
Ditto on this. Heard the same things about plasma when I got mine 9 or 10 years ago.
FYI: The 2018 QLEDs are quite different from last year's. If you want a more detailed review, Forbes posted one last week.
Found this interesting.... No mention of any HDR10+ anywhere (yet). I believe there is some kind of national broadcasters convention happening in Vegas currently.
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