It has a different color grade than the Blu-Ray release which was more aligned to the theatrical release so it can be jarring to watch the 4K release at first. Aside from that, the UHD is an upgrade in every way.
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Television Displays and Technology Thread: The ERA of OLED is Now
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It has a different color grade than the Blu-Ray release which was more aligned to the theatrical release so it can be jarring to watch the 4K release at first. Aside from that, the UHD is an upgrade in every way.
lol
Just had that conversation to get all the gear for my Atmos system (after getting the 65C7 last year).
I think mLED is probably the big one to wait for. I have to imagine if some of the banding/vignetting on my C7 irks me a bit (and it does) that stretch that out to 85" and it would probably drive me nuts. Same for the typical uniformity issues w/ FALDs when bright areas are shown against a dark background.
Seems like mLED should hopefully be the holy trinity of brightness, blacks and uniformity...
Honestly I still think CLEDIS would have been the holy grail had it not been so damn expensive to make.
That's the Sony "Crystal" LED, yeah?
E: Also that sounds disgusting
Okay, I got a serious problem on my B7 now.
I constantly switch the input in and out of PC mode for games. PC mode for SDR gaming as it lets me set the color gamut to the proper setting, then out of PC for HDR gaming.
All of the sudden Color Gamut has become greyed out in PC mode, and fixed to Wide. Nothing I do is fixing it. What happened?
I constantly switch the input in and out of PC mode for games. PC mode for SDR gaming as it lets me set the color gamut to the proper setting, then out of PC for HDR gaming.
All of the sudden Color Gamut has become greyed out in PC mode, and fixed to Wide. Nothing I do is fixing it. What happened?
I was selling Fujitsu plasmas at $15k. The picture quality now available at the $1500 range (sale prices, but hey) is astonishing.
Which version are you running? I'm guessing you don't have a copy handy?
04.30.95, I've got like five copies saved out of paranoia. Only useful if you're Australian though I'm afraid. You need the region specific firmware.
What picture preset is it on? You can still set it to game mode in PC mode I think, which would grey out that option.
Holy shit I totally forgot about Fujitsu! God the processing on those things was just incredible.
It's a little bit sad that you can't see as many mom and pop type places make a go of it as you can on the audio side. Fujitsu, Pioneer, Oppo, (sort of) Hitachi.
Sad.
blu-ray.com updated their specs section to include what type of HDR is on the disc, and whether it's a 4K DI or upscaled 4K. That's handy!
Bout a page and a half late
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It's good to hear that it was not a burn in issue.
Should we make a new thread about it?
Just so we can warn people who don't check this thread.
That was not the conclusion that I came to from that video.
The 25% window issue was fixed with a change to the LUT, but the burn-in from the CNN logo was not.
Honestly the main reason I don't game on my OLED.
I still have the Destiny 1 HUD burned in to my Panasonic plasma, all these years later.
Yeah, the CNN is still apparent on those TVs, figures, but at least the TV that had FIFA on was fixed to completely free of.. "burn-in".
Doesn't really change much, 10 weeks of 20/7 Gaming not leaving burn-in is enough to ease my mind at least, but people who love to fear monger will still linger to that CNN example.
I watch a lot of news channels (including CNN) and game on my B6 non-stop. The set gets super heavy use on the weekend by multiple people. Still no burn-in almost 2 years later... Surprised this fear mongering is still going on, but then also not surprised at all.
Yeah i burned D1 and Overwatch into my Panasonic plasma. Have played D2 and Overwatch about as much if not more on my C7 (D2 in HDR also) and no IR anywhere. Seems to be highly variable by panel (with 7s generally fairing better than 6s)
There is burn in on the Fifa one, but its pretty reasonable. Still enough that it would drive me nuts, but I'd like to think I'd be more responsible with the screen than 10 weeks of Fifa :p
blu-ray.com updated their specs section to include what type of HDR is on the disc, and whether it's a 4K DI or upscaled 4K. That's handy!
That's excellent news, man. Especially the "upscaled" 4K stuff since they do look different.
You're right, pretty miniscule and true, I hope most OLED owners know better than do stuff 10 week straight. Also I'm not sure if its IR or burn-in since someone said actual burn-in would appear darker rather than lighter.
I know! And I loved their industrial design on those early panels - they didn't care about the looks of the frame, just giving you the best damn flat panel you could buy.
Weird, you addressed the unlikely-but-possible issue of burn-in/image retention without acting like anyone who brings it up is an idiot, or telling someone who has experienced it that they are "making it up." Are you sure you belong in this thread? ;)
blu-ray.com updated their specs section to include what type of HDR is on the disc, and whether it's a 4K DI or upscaled 4K. That's handy!
Bout a page and a half late
Really glad the site did that.
Awesome! Just looked up the Greatest Showman, so glad its a native 4k title.
Yeah, weren't they just a super simple rectangular cubic frame? Like most of NECs commercial stuff?
tbh I have made the statement about Overwatch, Destiny, and my panasonic plasma probably no less than ten times in this thread. As i've said previously, this whole thing would be easier to probably just start responding with "yup, if you're concerned, don't buy one" instead of putting my two cents in. I should probably just stop responding to those all together...
Realistically, it's those responses that bother me SO MUCH MORE than the actual question. Yes it's in the OP, yes you can do your own research, but man, if I'm spending $2000+ on a television and my use case is mostly gaming, I'd be asking the same questions of actual users. If everyone handled the questions like Ronin, we'd be way better off.
Agreed. I am blown away by the value you can get on the 55" to 65" inch sets for $1500-2000. You can get the 2nd tier of best LCDs and OLEDs at a very reasonable price, pretty much have your pick of the litter. That's why right now (last year, 2017 models) are the way to go for the majority of average consumers. It's finally the ideal time to upgrade to 4K for most enthusiasts. It's certainly not going to get any cheaper.
7 series can't be firmware downgraded and Game Mode was never any different from what it is now anyway. Only the 6 series was changed.
Image retention was very severe on my C7.
Playing the witness in 4k HDR, it would take a while for the letters of the opening (black letters on a white background) splash screen to fully disappear.
Yup! Usually silver (at least the ones I remember) with no adornment, and a tiny little logo.
Nah, your responses give super-helpful context: you've experienced it with previous tech, you haven't experienced it with your current set, but it's out there and varies by year.
A-yup. The compulsion to defend a TV tech so with such vigor is alien to me, but then again I never got into the console wars either.
I keep meaning to check what I have brightness/OLED light at to see if it's way lower than other people who have those issues. Maybe that's why (though i still think it's well documented that variability in panels is high)
I think many people's problem with the question and following debate isn't the content so much as the fact that it seems to occur every week or so and sometimes it carries on for multiple pages. It's like the previous pages of this thread don't exist, the statements in the OP don't exist, and there isn't a search function. It's just very frustrating to the helpful people who frequent the thread daily to participate and answer questions, etc.
Oh this was maxed out brightness, which undoubtedly didn't help matters there
I agree, but the point being made here is there's a reasonable way to respond: "yeah, this comes up, it's mentioned in the OP but here's a one-sentence summation," and so on. The reason it tends to drag is that there are a few posters that simply cannot let the topic be brought up without making sure that their perfect experience isn't shouted the loudest, when the worst-case scenario is someone buying a TV that uses different technology than theirs.
I'm in the same boat: I post in this thread regularly, check it daily, and attempt to help when I've got relevant information (or silly gifs). At this point, I'm with Bumrush: I only get frustrated with the hyperbolic responses, not people asking questions.
How long is "a while"?
Several seconds, minutes, days, weeks, months?
I have some retention with the yellow boxes on the Amazon app, but it disappear after a couple of seconds.
Actually there never was a switch to ATSC 2.0. Broadcasters still use ATSC 1.0.
some hands on impressions in the avs thread here:
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-l...eries-m-series-p-series-4k-hdr-smart-tvs.html
looks like vizio had an event today so expecting more impressions.
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-l...eries-m-series-p-series-4k-hdr-smart-tvs.html
looks like vizio had an event today so expecting more impressions.
Now we're talking about how much people talk about the burn in, instead of talking about the burn in.
I'm not ready for how meta this is getting.
=P
Was the switch to digital the 2.0 one? That's what I thought. As said previously, it's hardly my area of expertise.
I'm not ready for how meta this is getting.
=P
Was the switch to digital the 2.0 one? That's what I thought. As said previously, it's hardly my area of expertise.
The digital switch was to ATSC 1.0. NTSC was the analog standard in North America in use prior to ATSC 1.0.
Ya. Iz gud.
I mean, it's exactly what we thought it was going to be. A repackaged A1.
vizio pq sounds like its gonna have the same issues with blooming that other high nit leds have. boo
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