Pointlessly high power consumption on something that doesn't need it I'd guess.
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Television Displays and Technology Thread: The ERA of OLED is Now
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Don't abuse the set and you should be fine. If you plan on watching a ton of news or playing one game with a static HUD for thousands of hours, I'd avoid it. Normal viewing conditions and you should be good
If you care about image quality at all you don't want IPS. Blacks are gray, and HDR is dogshit on IPS. There's just not enough contrast. The first HDR TV I bought was a Sony IPS and I returned it within a week. Great for viewing angles, crap for everything else.
At some point we're going to start seeing posts about Samsung rear-projection DLP sets, and I don't know if I can handle it.
Will be using it a lot for games, but I rarely have the same elements on my TV for hours upon hours at a time. It's also off for most of the day during the week due to work.
Out of interest, if my budget was a grand, what would be the next best TV to recommend? OLED or otherwise because I know the C7 is the cheapest OLED 4k set on the market currently.
Sony 900E now or 900F in a few months. Great sets. Two of my friends own them (one each) and I've spent quite a bit of time with them.
They are the polar opposite of each other, when it comes to quality, the Q9FN is the only Samsung that could be comparable, and even then the C7 is better (barring burn in concerns).
Don't worry and take the plunge.
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YES.
"Television Displays and Technology Thread: No, Zoetropes Can't Get Burn-In"
Sounds like the C7 is the best way to go. Thanks for the help. Just hoping they'll still be available to buy in a few weeks time.
Will avoid/10.
The QLED blows!!! Had a C8 for a month, it died. Replaced it for a QLED bc I was scared about burn in........picture quality in games isn't even close! I picked up 55" Q8FN, used it for 2 hours and was already done. Once it's in game mode and everything is off the QLED doesn't look even close to what the OLED looked like.
Thankfully there's plenty of DSE effect on the QLED so it's considered defective. Just picked it up yesterday, it's going back to the store ASAP and going with another C8. Sorry for doubting you OLED, please forgive me!
This must be very true bc the Q8 isn't even close! Honestly can't belive a TV could cost $2k and be so far off a TV that's only $200 more (55" C8.) Played EXACT same games and sections in the games for comparison from the C8 to Q8. At least B.B. warretny covers burn in where as Costco's Square trade warranty did NOT.
All the research says otherwise but real world use, ( at least for video games in Game mode,) OLED! I feel like my 2013 1080p Sony has a better PQ then the Q8 minus the 4K lol. Blacks are terrible on Q8 for games.
Yeah, that comparison gets even worse, when you factor in the bargain basement prices that the 7 series go for, I mean they are still the pinnacle of best tv's, being that it's really been just a treading water exercise 2017 to 2018.
i have give up to HDR in my B7 for Games, its such a hit and miss, i never like the picture too much and l just prefer how correct and great games looks in normal SDR mode.
all say, for movies its great.
all say, for movies its great.
Read a lot of recommendations to set Trumotion to User 0,0 vs off. Does anyone know the specifics behind 0,0 Trumotion on LG OLEDs? Thank you
Damn that bad huh ? You should give the Sony 930e a shot
I just don't get it lol!! Side by side the Q honestly didn't look THAT far off from the OLED, (instore.) They must be playing a lot of tricks with dynamic contrast, vivid mode, store display mode or whatever else. Even Microsoft pimping QLED left and right with the Ooooooo look, VRR, best TVs for gaming ect.
......I've never been rude to ANYBODY on here, ever lol, but I feel bad about even debating OLED vs QLED. I'm sorry everyone, you guys were all correct!! I was wrong and I welcome our new OLED overlords. Now I just need to figure out what time my wife gets home with our Tahoe, (not gonna fit in my Mustang lol,) get the Q8 the F outta the house and welcome another LG C8 back in.
After having a real world comparison playing the same games on both, going with OLED C8 for sure. Paying a premium for the B.B. extended warranty bc they cover burn in, but will put my mind at ease at least. The "potential" for burn in was my only knock against the C8, besides the fact that it died in a month.
Huh, looks like the C7 isn't available anywhere. The B7 looks like it's in plentiful supply still (UK). How different are the two sets? They seem virtually the same with the only differences really being the stands.
Asked another way, does the C8's YouTube app support HDR?
Stands and on-board audio I believe. Same panel.
Stands and on-board audio I believe. Same panel.
All true. But if you really need viewing angles, and LCD, IPS is the only option. For example my bright, and wide seating arrangement living room. It was either an OLED, or IPS panel, and I would never put an OLED in the living room since it would get destroyed due to my wife and kid primarily using the tv. 75" Sony 850D, aka the beater, it's on all day long.
Again, no tv is perfect, pick what's best suited to your needs. Still petitioning for that to be the new thread title.
Going by in-store is literally the worst thing anyone can do, those blazing lights hide a multitude of sins, but Joe public doesn't care, and will go by what looks bright and impactful, and these kinds of people don't give a shit about blacks anyway, but for people that care, they should choose mostly based on doing their homework and finding the real truth about each set.
When those lights go down, the truth will reveal :)
B7 PQ and settings are identical, just besel colour and stand that's different.
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Since the C8 supports VP9 profile 2, the YouTube app should support HDR.
Aren't the speakers different or something? I remember seeing that?
Sweet, thank you!! Do you have one?
If they are different, then it must be a a very small difference, after all they are/were the same price.
BTW 7's have YouTube HDR, 100% C8 does.
You're welcome.I don't have one.I did a bit of research about whether my tv supported YouTube HDR, and i read that VP9 profile 2 support is required.
No worries, the reason I said about Atmos btw, was because at one point, the B7 didn't support Atmos decoding, but the C7 did! Luckily LG rectified it.
Maybe that was it!! Folks on AVS say that the C7 has a better speaker as well but that it's negligible. Neither are likely very good
I have a 2016 LG 65UH950V (UH9500 in the US).Edit: Maybe you thought that i was referring to a more recent tv.
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So I have my TCL R617, first it looks great but I am still tuning it and getting used to everything. HDR however can look really off depending on the game. I found Horizon Zero Dawn looks great during the day but then at night the game became so dark. Destiny 2 HDR looks like it makes it darker.
I believe HDR makes colors pop more and the darks darker, correct? Anyway, I'm still figuring this whole 4K/HDR lifestyle out. I've spent 11 years in 1080p.
Outside of Rtings, are there any calibration tips?
I believe HDR makes colors pop more and the darks darker, correct? Anyway, I'm still figuring this whole 4K/HDR lifestyle out. I've spent 11 years in 1080p.
Outside of Rtings, are there any calibration tips?
How big are you wanting? Thats a super low budget, you wont be touching a new oled with it. Is there any way to increase it?
For your budget, a refurb could be a great idea, as you'll get something better than you otherwise would brand new.
These are great.
https://centresdirect.co.uk/p-21834-sony-kd-55xe8577-kd55xe8577sua.aspx
Or this:
https://centresdirect.co.uk/p-21861-sony-kd-49xe9005-kd49xe9005bua.aspx
The thing is if you are watching in bright daylight or somewhere bright like a showroom then I always think wtf are you doing buying a super expensive TV! Even a budget option is going to look good in those conditions because your eye is already dilated so much it can't discern the contrast differences very effectively.
I can't even see the HDR effect in the store so for me I don't see what the fuss is all about as it looks pretty much identical. Until I get it in my own home I won't really know what impact it has.
55 inch. I can drop oled really if he's going to inflate the price, otherwise I can save up money but will must delay purchase by a a month or two.
Unless you think oled is worth holding out for?
Hello all, in the market for a TV. Primary use will be gaming and movies. I'm looking for 65" HDR and would love to keep it under 1k. Was looking at some of the TCL tvs because it sounds like they are really good value right now. Really not sure about the r617 vs the s517 vs the s405 big price range difference not sure how big the quality gap will be. Also there were apparently some HDR issues recently according to this thread https://www.resetera.com/threads/tcl-p607-605-thread-goat-budget-4k-hdr-tv.706/page-34 not sure if those got ironed out.
I'm looking to upgrade to an HDR set before the year is up.
I'm looking for sizes from 40-50 inch. Budget is $1000. It will be a bedroom TV, that I'll use for gaming and watching media from (cable and steaming). The way the room is set up I have no choice but to have the TV across and facing the window so I'm trying to avoid reflective screens. Can anyone give suggestions to what TV I should consider with these conditions?
I'm looking for sizes from 40-50 inch. Budget is $1000. It will be a bedroom TV, that I'll use for gaming and watching media from (cable and steaming). The way the room is set up I have no choice but to have the TV across and facing the window so I'm trying to avoid reflective screens. Can anyone give suggestions to what TV I should consider with these conditions?
Somehow I just cannot pull the trigger on dropping 1k on the 65" TCL over here in poorland, even though it's truly my dream TV.
Although dunno if it was discussed here, but the TCL's were 10% off yesterday, making the 65" $872 on Best Buy. However I still couldn't pull the trigger.
Sometimes I think about getting the 55" TCL instead. Thing is I already have a 55" 4k pseudo HDR set (max ~330 nits brightness, but does have wide color gamut). I wonder can anybody tell me, would I really notice a difference, especially to justify $600? I fear I would not.
Although dunno if it was discussed here, but the TCL's were 10% off yesterday, making the 65" $872 on Best Buy. However I still couldn't pull the trigger.
Sometimes I think about getting the 55" TCL instead. Thing is I already have a 55" 4k pseudo HDR set (max ~330 nits brightness, but does have wide color gamut). I wonder can anybody tell me, would I really notice a difference, especially to justify $600? I fear I would not.
I've done a TON of research. What you DON'T hear about is how when you go into game mode on Q8, the black levels are worse and there's blooming everywhere! Doesn't matter what setting for backlight. Seems very counterproductive considering they're selling it as "one of the best gaming TVs." My 2013 Sony LED performs better then the Q8 in gaming mode. I've never owned a Samsung TV before, I've heard great things about KS8000-9000 but GD the Q8 sucks lol.
Finally made the 4K jump and picked up a 55" Sony X900F. I felt it was a good buy at the current sale price when matched with picture quality and Sony's motion handling ( I watch a lot of hockey). Just got it set up and have been going through a few games. Destiny 2 in 4K HDR is like a brand new game and Forza Horizon is absurd. Outside of the picture quality, what I'm really noticing is how much better the input lag is on this set compared to my 6 year old Sony HX800. Absolutely loving this, wasn't really sold on the difference until seeing it for myself in my living room - it's a complete game changer.
I also have AC Origins, so besides the games I mentioned what are the real One X show pieces right now for 4K HDR content?
I also have AC Origins, so besides the games I mentioned what are the real One X show pieces right now for 4K HDR content?
Curious if the Q9 is any better, I always go by the rule you either buy Samsung's flagship, or you dont buy Samsung. They've never been good in the mid/low tier.
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