Not sure about the not racist party considering his history on segregation, being buddies with one of the vilest white supremacists in the recent history of this country etc
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The Intercept: Time’s Up Said It Could Not Fund a #MeToo Allegation Against Joe Biden, Citing Its Nonprofit Status and His Presidential Run
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Not sure about the not racist party considering his history on segregation, being buddies with one of the vilest white supremacists in the recent history of this country etc
Don't want to veer off topic per the posting guidelines, what I meant was that I would be surprised if they (call it the DNC, establishment, whoever you believe organized Pete/Amy to drop out and endorse Biden) chose Biden over Pete if they knew about this situation beforehand.
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Absolutely.
Blending out everything else.
If we collectively do not want a sexual predator in the white house that can happen. If the Democratic establishment decides enough is enough, they will find a way to give Biden the boot. Who then gets the nod is completely irrelevant in that discussion for now.
For that however we have to hold them all accountable and hold their feet to the fire.
I don't understand what you are saying. Who chose Pete over Biden? Pete dropped out because he did terrible in SC. It was due to the voters. He made it clear that no one told him to endorse Biden, it was his call based on how he performed in SC.
Anywaya, I really don't think this is the thread for these sort of conspiracy theories....we should focus on the topic at hand I think.
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Not to mention still saying the crime bill was a good thing and repeating his nonsense about black mothers not being good enough for their children. And no matter how much weekend obama volunteers who watched his speeches want to argue he meant something different, he is absolutely a racist.
Trump doesn't have to hide his skeletons because they are out in the open and his base solidly does not give a shit. If given the chance he absolutely will use it to his advantage. All he cares about is winning and the worst he will have to deal with is call the media corrupt on Twitter for the billionth time.
Yeah. Trump is 100 percent immune. His base largely thinks rape is no big deal. It's people who give a shit about women who have quickly found themselves represented by, well, Joe Biden.
Yep agreed. My goal right now, from this point forward, is to keep Biden from the nomination. From now on when talking of Biden I'm always going to bring this fact up. Everyone needs to know this before making their decision. And I'll look into best how to spread this horrible thing.
I am curious how much play, if any, this gets. National media typically won't touch it unless there is evidence or its been fully vetted.
Seriously did we all somehow forget he brought out Bill Clinton's accusers right before a debate and didn't get punished for the obvious hypocrisy.
Though maybe that's a sick comfort for die-hard Biden supporters: America doesn't really care about rapists if you're popular and have clout
If CNN doesn't touch, Fox will, over and over until every last American knows this thing in the cockles of their hearts.
The same way black people have been voting for mildly racist candidates just because the alternatives are kkk members and/or are outright for public lynchings.
It's so fucking gross and if Biden is a lock in than he has PLENTY of time to make steps to mitigate, take responsibility for, and address these concerns before moving forward with the campaign.
It's not going to please everyone and they aren't obligated to care-- women have been told to put XYZ over their own feelings time and time again, but it's better than NOTHING.
Most voters can't even begin to understand that perspective, though. They still think it's a game instead of the life and death issue it is. By the time they realize that it isn't, it will be far too late.
Even Fox usually stays away from this stuff without vetting.
Yeah. As I said earlier, it will just make them look untrustworthy to victims trying to speak out or get justice. They need to address this immediately.
Unfortunately, beating Trump is what people want and care about just like how in 2016 Trump's rapes and sexual assaults on women did not matter to voters who merely wanted to see Clinton defeated. It's the same thing this time around but against Trump.
Yeah, to rephrase my initial post to be closer to the topic, I'm wondering if people on the Biden campaign or those close to him in the Democratic establishment already knew about this stuff. And I'm wondering what their strategy will be to deal with it - ignore and deny or try to acknowledge? The audio description of what happened is so vile that it seems like denial would be the only thing they could do.
It's one of the only things that could actually destroy Biden. You'll see hateful demagogues
become surface-level women's rights advocates overnight to signal boost this. No consequences if they're wrong, their viewers remain the same.
Apologies, though, this is getting off track. Thread isn't about this topic in particular. Just the story itself.
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Some of the think it's no big deal, some think it's fake news.
But a lot of them think that winning the election is more important than this stuff, and I think this is also true for many people in the Democratic base.
The DNC must investigate this fully.
If credible Biden must drop out.
fucking filthy rapist and people who Stan for him are depraved.
If credible Biden must drop out.
fucking filthy rapist and people who Stan for him are depraved.
If it came down to that he wouldn't drop out before the primary was over. It would be worked out so a like minded moderate like an Andrew Cuomo or something would be able pick up his delegates at the convention to respect the will of the voters to have a moderate nominee.
This needs to be its own thread.
She described Joe Biden sexually assaulting her.
Afterwords (in response to her reacting to the assault), Biden even said "you're nothing to me" This guy is a piece of shit
Respect the will of the voters by nominating someone no one voted for, okay.
They didn't necessarily want a moderate (based on basically every exit poll that polled health care), they wanted someone that could beat Trump.
was there more to this story besides Biden doing his sniffing hair and touching shoulders thing? reading in this thread makes it sound like he committed a full blown rape
maybe if you wanted to learn more you could look at the thread mark instead of downplaying it
The Democratic Party is supposed to be the party of social rights, ignoring rape accusations is the opposite of what this party ostensibly stands for.
People didn't care about Bill Clinton's behavior either. He was super popular with women even as the scandals were being reported on. Maybe it will be different here.
Joe Biden has always been a scumbag.
But nobody cares going by the primary.
Such a shame that woman will never see justice. But that's the way things are in this country. A Nation where the people happily choose rapists over someone who fights for real change because they are comfortable with the status quo.
To think I may actually have to vote for this piece of shit in November... I know what's at stake and I will vote Democrat but... God damn it! It feels like if I vote for him, I am telling this poor woman that what happened to her doesn't matter and that I am condoning his behavior.
Utterly disgusted. Is there truly nothing we can do?
But nobody cares going by the primary.
Such a shame that woman will never see justice. But that's the way things are in this country. A Nation where the people happily choose rapists over someone who fights for real change because they are comfortable with the status quo.
To think I may actually have to vote for this piece of shit in November... I know what's at stake and I will vote Democrat but... God damn it! It feels like if I vote for him, I am telling this poor woman that what happened to her doesn't matter and that I am condoning his behavior.
Utterly disgusted. Is there truly nothing we can do?
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Even if it was "just" that, it'd be disgusting and unacceptable.
But, look at the threadmark. He's a rapist who spat "You mean nothing to me" at his victim. He's a monster.
I'm listening to that Soundcloud link now - yeah sounds fucking gross. this is a full blown lesser evil vote for president now, blegh
Wait, he straight-up raped someone.
Forget everything I said in my previous post.
If these allegations are true, it would be unconscionable to vote for this man. Trump be damned.
I haven't seen this story getting picked by any big media outlet so far, and I suspect as long that it stays true they will try to ignore this issue.
Sadly this is probably the best time for this story to break if you're Biden or Time's UP. There's so much taking the focus right now that it's likely to just be a drop in the bucket.
You know very well this is not what the democratic party stands for. They claim to stand for that. This is why November will be such a tragedy. I have no choice but to vote for a rapist because they other rapist is even worse. This is why a lot of people are angry at Biden. Our standards have plummeted so low after 2016.
Yea we're in a shitty place as a country, no idea if we can come back from this.
At this point it's time to burn the Democratic party down. I'm tired of this shit. I'm tired of having to vote for people that either attack women for coming forward (Hillary Clinton) or are sexual predators (Bill Clinton, Joe Biden). Fuck. This. Shit.
I remember we had exactly the same concerns being raised a couple of months ago when Biden announced his campaign: his very problematic history with women. Unfortunately our memory span, and I include myself too, is really fucking small and everyone forgot about it again
I will start rationalizing everything bad happing to me by labelling it as Russian propaganda/interference™
Also, The Intercept does top notch journalism, you tool
Written summary of how Tara Reade says she was raped. Based on her interview.
I did a summary of the rape allegation:
Fuck Joe Biden
She is asked by someone else to deliver a gym bag to Biden, down towards the capitol. She arrives, they end up alone in a side area, there wasn't even any exchange or delivery. He immediately pushes her up against the wall, starts kissing her, then penetrates her under the skirt with his fingers. He said "do you wanna go somewhere else" while it was happening. She pulled away once he was finished, clearly upset. He then said "come on, man! I thought/heard you liked me!" He looked annoyed. He then pointed his finger at her and said "you're nothing. Nothing" Then soon afterwords attempted to console her by grabbing her by the shoulders and said "you're ok, you're fine". She says that the "you're nothing" exchange has stuck with her ever since. "People wanna know why women don't come forward.. that's a good example why"
All it takes is one Trump tweet and everyone will start talking about it and Biden will be forced to answer questions. Unless Trump says something the story probably goes away. How fucked up is that.