broadly known where? in gamefaqs forums?
sis, the people who made the photos 5 year later knew way more than you what the game was supposed to look like
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The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening remake announced for Nintendo Switch
- Thread starter Mr. RPG
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I've would have hoped they kept the free movement we had in A Link Between Worlds. After have watched the trailer a couple of times it does seem to be restricted to 8 directions which is a shame, at least for me. That type of movement in today's market drives me nuts but I still want to play it despite not being of fan of either the art style or movement.
What do you get out of spouting such blatantly false nonsense?
In terms of technical and artistic quality, here's one that's not too far off imo. Eternium: Mages and Minions.
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They said the same on NVC yesterday, so I guess there were industry rumors for a while.
I didn't say anything about what the game is supposed to look like. I like the new art style. I'm just saying that the argument that the game was originally intended to look like the cutscenes that appear in the original game is at least as strong as the argument that the game was originally intended to look like a series of pictures created as extra content for a port by a different team five years after the original release.
People seem to mix up remakes and remasters all the time. Maybe this is just an extension of that confusion?
Can you back this statement with some examples? the only people saying this have given rather poor examples and have been rightly criticised, so I am curious what examples of this known fact you have.
one could make the argument that the intro looking different than the actual game makes complete sense considering one is the reality and the other is not.
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The only "bad" thing about Links Awakening is the dungeons are all 1 floor like the original Zelda, but they are way more intricate, and down right disorientating with all the crossing paths. Don't get me wrong I love the dungeons in the game, just wish they had more depth. I do hope they expand on them greatly.
Another thing, I wonder if they might have multiple dreams instead of just a second quest. The game talks alot about courage, which makes sense as that is Link's piece of the Triforce, but what if there are now 3 quests? A Dream of Courage, a Dream of Power, and a Dream of Wisdom. You still have to wake the Windfish in all Three, but each dream has its own variety of Koholint Island, depending on the triforce piece. The Dream of Power can be more action oriented, and the Dream of Wisdom can have much more difficult puzzles. Think of the Oracle games, but in one package.
Another thing, I wonder if they might have multiple dreams instead of just a second quest. The game talks alot about courage, which makes sense as that is Link's piece of the Triforce, but what if there are now 3 quests? A Dream of Courage, a Dream of Power, and a Dream of Wisdom. You still have to wake the Windfish in all Three, but each dream has its own variety of Koholint Island, depending on the triforce piece. The Dream of Power can be more action oriented, and the Dream of Wisdom can have much more difficult puzzles. Think of the Oracle games, but in one package.
Weird nitpick I guess, but one thing I'm slightly worried about is the UI and menus. I hope they're not as bland/generic as BotW's UI was. I want a proper title screen and menu music back (I assume they'll use the animation from the trailer for this). Same thing for the logo, I hope they change it, but if not, at least put some color in there!
In English, the game is called Link's Awakening... if anything that makes it more explicit. The quest is fueled by the imperative: "wake the dreamer." It's no secret.
I'm with you there 10000%. The art style I actually find charming, but if that is the music I'm all the way out.
I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, and maybe it's just my eyes are just playing tricks on me, but did anyone else think that the 2019 at the end of the trailer was the BoTW font?
It would make sense, but it would also make sense if the in-game art is simply the best representation of the art style that they could manage using 16x16 sprites and tiles on a 160x144 pixel screen.
I'm just not really happy with the way people's opinions about the art style are being brushed off using these weird arguments that the game was always intended to look like that. Kids who played the original game saw cutscenes and artwork depicting a more realistically proportioned cartoon style, and I'm going to assume that most of us didn't think that Link actually transformed into a little chibi man as soon as he reached the island-- that's just what video games looked like on the Game Boy. Link's Awakening, in fact, went far out of its way to show us what Link is supposed to look like using those full-screen cutscenes that probably wouldn't have been included if the in-game art was sufficient in displaying the intended art style. It's a perfectly valid opinion that the original game implies a very different art style than what we're seeing with the remake and to be disappointed with the decision to work using the sprites as a basis instead of the concept art.
I am not sure how convincing that point is. Kids playing the remake will likely think exactly the same thing—the painted-ceramic-figure look is simply how Link is presented on the Switch.
It's true the switch is technically more capable than the Game Boy, but the Game Boy featured games like Metroid II and Donkey Kong Land, which didn't opt for shrinking proportions of their characters. The sprite design and visual direction of the original LA were an artistic choice, not necessarily dictated by the hardware. There were perhaps less options on Game Boy, but there was not only a single option. Not long after LA DX rolled around in '98 there were GBC games like Alone in the Dark, Dragon's Lair, and Perfect Dark that showed the platform was capable of much more ambitious visuals.
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Eagle's Tower was a multifloor dungeon and used vertically really well.
I agree on this point. Hopefully the soundtrack rivals ALBW.
you keep saying this, but the closest thing we have to actually knowing what the intended look of the game was (which couldn't be achieved in the original outside of the intro) are the photographs. yes, they were added to the DX version 5 years later, but it's not like the DX version was done by a completely different company. it was made at nintendo and under supervision of tezuka (the director of the original). i really can't see a scenario where the DX team came up with that chibi style for the game while the original was supposed to convey another look. to me the theory that the disconnect between the intro and the in-game style is as a result of it being a dream makes a lot of sense (and it also does here in this remake with the anime intro and the look of the actual game), as well as the idea that the game was always supposed to have and convey a rather cutesy style, but just couldn't in its original form.
and it's not like this is strictly a remake of the original. the DX version is just as relevant to this remake as the original. you talk about the kids playing the original, and there was also a lot of kids who played DX first (it still sold a lot, 2.22M compared to original's 3.83M) and for them as part of playing the game and doing the quest, they would see the chibi style link is depicted in.
at the end of day, not liking the style is a completely valid opinion. no one can force another person to like this style, or to tell them that as a kid this is what they should have imagined the game to look like. i just don't think this style is doing anything wrong in representing the old game to a new audience, and there's a lot of reasons to believe that it's close to what the original would have looked like if there was no technical limitations.
I am happy with ALBW as a follow up to aLttP. I think aLttP holds up a little better gameplay-wise than LA, mostly due to the control scheme, and I don't think it really begs for a remake. It remains visually attractive, has a varied and enjoyable soundscape, and is easy to pick up and play even in a contemporary setting. ALBW was a nice way to return to the world without retreading the same ground (you know what I mean). I would prefer the same kind of thing with LA, actually, and I hope this isn't a strict remake of the existing game.
the engine and style is obviously going the get reused for the inevitable remake of "for the frog the bell tolls" on switch.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaeru_no_Tame_ni_Kane_wa_Naru
some people apparently thought it was going for some epic skyrim looking stlye when they first played it, never mind how crazy and wacky and silly a lot of the stuff in the game is.
I'd rather they didn't use this art style for a LTTP remake just purely because LTTP is my definitive Zelda and I'd like an art style that reflects how it looked before in some way. This seems too far out. It's fine for this game, as a dreamy world but for LTTP I'm not sure I'd want it.
That said, it is beautiful so I wouldn't be that bothered.
I don't think they will though. It'll be a 2-4 player multiplayer game using this graphical style. Maybe a Four Swords remake.
That said, it is beautiful so I wouldn't be that bothered.
I don't think they will though. It'll be a 2-4 player multiplayer game using this graphical style. Maybe a Four Swords remake.
God, I want that game remade so bad. Plus so many don't even know who Prince Richard is in Link's Awakening!
i put the actual chance of that remake happening at around 0.02%, but it would be really nice if it did happen.
This game would have melted the 3DS. If it was planned for 3DS they must have scrapped a lot of work to get where we are now
Yeah, I put it about the same chance of happening. It's just so obscure with only Link's Awakening and Smash ever referencing the game in some form.
I don't see a lttp remake happening after albw. That halfway was a remake already.
i just question how and why would this have ever been planned for 3DS. 3DS already got MM, OoT, ALBW, and triforce heroes. the switch has been out for close to two years, with a lot of the games obviously starting the planning long before the system was out.
which is more likely?
1. after triforce heroes in 2015 they started work on the fifth zelda game for 3DS, and when in mid 2017 they realized switch is a hit and 3DS is on it's way out they started reworking the game for switch
2. it was always supposed to be a switch game, probably started development close to switch's launch.
I'm really looking forward to playing this game without the constant slow pausing whenever you need to change the item. That drove me crazy when I played DX on 3DS a bunch of years ago.
It was absolutely dictated by the hardware. Link's Awakening is the best you could reasonably expect a top down Zelda to look on the Game Boy. Using GBC games as counter examples is egregious because LADX was obviously not rebuilt from the ground up to take advantage of the extra processing power.
Just like the FFVII remake has gotta retain the deformed character models, right?
that game had actual fmv cutscenes showing characters in realistic proportions, link's awakening had this:
I don't think the using the GBC game is a bad example. It kept as near the original's visual identity as it could... similar to the switch version. That's part of my point here. It could have looked different. But it did not. The visual direction was an intentional choice to keep it as close to the original in-game look as possible.
True, but would it really sell much more at $40? Are they not maximizing profits by pricing it at $60?
After the success of BOTW, Zelda is riding higher than it has since OoT. This game will perform well.
I mean...
They both have a different aspects and viewpoints in-game.
The Prince is an Assist Trophy in Smash Bros. We need his game released so people know who he is.
People don't seem to remember the cutesy art style is meant to play off of just how crazy this game actually is. It's also incredibly melancholy so the cutesy art style is really gonna throw people unfamiliar with this game for a loop.
I think the art style reflects the game's tone pretty well, and it is very pretty, so I definitely don't find it bad.
That said, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't immediately let down after seeing that animated cutscene and briefly thinking the game was going to go for a hand-drawn style.
That said, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't immediately let down after seeing that animated cutscene and briefly thinking the game was going to go for a hand-drawn style.
Yeah same, and it started life as a remake. If they really wanted to remake it they would have done already.