Do you see a a text at the bottom that says "EzMode (F7)" ?
That should send you to a simplified screen with fewer option similar to the one in the screenshot I posted.
edit: Actually, seem like XMP is not availible on the G10CE
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Do you see a a text at the bottom that says "EzMode (F7)" ?
BackLogJoe I wonder if updating to a recent BIOS added the feature. The reddit threads I'm seeing are about 2 years old, can't say if something in the last year added the feature or not.
There are updates as recent as early this month.
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I'm also seeing In a couple of those Reddit threads from 2 years ago that the memory kit from Crucial CT2K16G4DFRA32A seems to be identified by the G10CE and on its own and set to the desired speed.
Heres the EzMode screen.
Its pretty barebones. I am also seeing some posts on reddit about this particular motherboard not having options in the BIOS.
If you have memory tweaking options in the advanced settings, you could probably set the clocks and primary timings yourself. But that's getting messy and you would definitely want to run a nice long RAM test just to make sure you're stable.
Given that you bought a prebuilt I don't know what level of tinkering you are comfortable with. RAM overclocking isn't for the faint at heart and that's kinda-sorta but not really where this would be going.
Edit: Oops had an extra quote in there for some reason.
Might be out of luck then. Even though your other RAM says it's running at 3200, the system is going to downclock it to match the slower pair. That's a pretty big bandwidth hit and an undetermined latency penalty. Might want to test some games with and without the new RAM and see if you want to return it.
If it is a good enough deal, you should probably get it and of course sell your old card ASAP. The 5070 or 5070 Ti won't launch until 2025 and who knows what the pricing or performance increase might be. The only thing we know for sure is that the 5090 will be a significantly faster card than the 4090 and GDDR7 will be included in various cards which would significantly increase bandwidth. But since AMD will be offering 0 competition until RDNA5 in late 2025 / 2026? and Intel isn't real competition other than laptops APUs, Nvidia can basically charge whatever they want and / or do relatively lame updates.Should I buy a 4070 Ti Super or wait for the 5000 series to be announced? GPUs are pretty expensive in my country, but I saw a good deal on Amazon, and with the low dollar prices these past few days, I'm really tempted. What should I do? (I have an RTX 3070, + AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D + 32 GB of RAM @3200 combo).
Might be out of luck then. Even though your other RAM says it's running at 3200, the system is going to downclock it to match the slower pair. That's a pretty big bandwidth hit and an undetermined latency penalty. Might want to test some games with and without the new RAM and see if you want to return it.
Among these I would say go for that first $1600 option with the 4070 Super instead of the $1800 one with the 4070 TI Super. The diference between GPUs is $200 but the first one has a better CPU and more storage.I decided to buy my first desktop since 2005, and upgrade from my ASUS laptop with a Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10750H CPU @ 2.60GHz 2.59 GHz and a a NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Max-Q design. It has been a great laptop, but when I try to play games like BG3 or even Minecraft the keyboard gets hot to the touch even with a cooling fan tray under it. So now I'm looking for a desktop and monitor. I don't really know much about specs or how to gauge quality outside of reading customer reviews, so any advice anyone could give me would be most appreciated.
Right now I am mostly looking at a budget of around 2K maybe 2.3K factoring in a monitor and speakers.
1: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberp...er-12gb-2tb-ssd-white/6575113.p?skuId=6575113 This seems like a good option for 1440P gaming, but all the youtube videos and reddit threads I've read say to prioritize VRAM and that 16 gigs might be the standard for modern games in the near future.
2: https://www.newegg.com/abs-sr7700x4070tis-stratos-aqua/p/N82E16883360477 This one has a better GPU but I don't know if it is worth the extra cost or how the CPU compares.
3: https://www.newegg.com/abs-sa14700kf4070tis-stratos-aqua/p/N82E16883360475 This is the most expensive option, but I just don't know if it is worth the price.
For the monitor I was thinking something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Monitor-FreeSync-Premium-M3bmiiprx/dp/B0C4Z8RFY9/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3NRD3X6846ARM&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.SOYFO-rxDkMy3BvBn__XJc9dU3UAGhkLImM01Fkh0RBL0oY7fpD57ev2YI-nzyW52DSQnQenskhhQco0gqbC3iCASwvn4s8Bz_B087xlFtjXh4-7ESIuIKrHLvtC3ClhZKyvoZQB9tu9RoD73NlZ-3QBPSY2wQNSV-NYrrUG4Sh5b-OIQRz8h10G8AuM5JYv-tqyJh_ouC5JVVowO1nDMnrhmHWDlmVLNhdbuO8eraY.UIZ5rnSSJcOwPi5yulMJJwTVBImzYLva6eAqUJYlhGw&dib_tag=se&keywords=acer+nitro+27&qid=1716067379&sprefix=acer+nitro+27,aps,156&sr=8-3 This is about as big a screen as my desk can fit. I might look into getting a larger desk with more room and storage space but that might have to wait a bit. There are a lot of curved screen options, but from what I have read it seems like it isn't really effective with a relatively smaller screen.
Sorry to just drop this here, but I am kind of out of my depth.
Sure you can get a prebuilt, something along these lines if it's in the budget. Perfect specs for 4k while being a great value build. Only problem is that the case is ugly, you can spend more for a better looking PC, or that's one of the reasons you can try building one so you can have the parts you want visually.I'm glad this thread exists especially with Father's Day coming around. My husband has been struggling with his Xbox series x and flight simulator 2020 in terms of peripherals. I know long before I met him, he used to be into flight simulators, and that's pretty much the direction he's going to stay in. A couple of posts up I saw that there were options to buy prebuilt pc's . Would any of them give him a great 4k experience with high frame rates? Or should I just buy him components to build one as he's built pcs in the very distant past?
No need for monitor, just the Pc or components needed.
I think you have quite a hefty budget and I would start with looking at the monitor first and put more money into that aspect of the build. What kind of games are you planning to play? Mainly single player or competitive FPS too? There's quite a good range of OLED monitors now even at 1440p so I would try seeing if one of those fits into the budget. Here Dell has quite good prices on some refurb OLEDs, I would try to fit either the 1440p or even the 4k one in the budget and look for the PC from there.I decided to buy my first desktop since 2005, and upgrade from my ASUS laptop with a Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10750H CPU @ 2.60GHz 2.59 GHz and a a NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Max-Q design. It has been a great laptop, but when I try to play games like BG3 or even Minecraft the keyboard gets hot to the touch even with a cooling fan tray under it. So now I'm looking for a desktop and monitor. I don't really know much about specs or how to gauge quality outside of reading customer reviews, so any advice anyone could give me would be most appreciated.
Right now I am mostly looking at a budget of around 2K maybe 2.3K factoring in a monitor and speakers.
1: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberp...er-12gb-2tb-ssd-white/6575113.p?skuId=6575113 This seems like a good option for 1440P gaming, but all the youtube videos and reddit threads I've read say to prioritize VRAM and that 16 gigs might be the standard for modern games in the near future.
2: https://www.newegg.com/abs-sr7700x4070tis-stratos-aqua/p/N82E16883360477 This one has a better GPU but I don't know if it is worth the extra cost or how the CPU compares.
3: https://www.newegg.com/abs-sa14700kf4070tis-stratos-aqua/p/N82E16883360475 This is the most expensive option, but I just don't know if it is worth the price.
For the monitor I was thinking something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Monitor-FreeSync-Premium-M3bmiiprx/dp/B0C4Z8RFY9/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3NRD3X6846ARM&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.SOYFO-rxDkMy3BvBn__XJc9dU3UAGhkLImM01Fkh0RBL0oY7fpD57ev2YI-nzyW52DSQnQenskhhQco0gqbC3iCASwvn4s8Bz_B087xlFtjXh4-7ESIuIKrHLvtC3ClhZKyvoZQB9tu9RoD73NlZ-3QBPSY2wQNSV-NYrrUG4Sh5b-OIQRz8h10G8AuM5JYv-tqyJh_ouC5JVVowO1nDMnrhmHWDlmVLNhdbuO8eraY.UIZ5rnSSJcOwPi5yulMJJwTVBImzYLva6eAqUJYlhGw&dib_tag=se&keywords=acer+nitro+27&qid=1716067379&sprefix=acer+nitro+27,aps,156&sr=8-3 This is about as big a screen as my desk can fit. I might look into getting a larger desk with more room and storage space but that might have to wait a bit. There are a lot of curved screen options, but from what I have read it seems like it isn't really effective with a relatively smaller screen.
Sorry to just drop this here, but I am kind of out of my depth.
You need to find memory which has its JEDEC/stock speed set as afaster speed. Rather than XMP.Its very frustrating. I swapped out the stock memory and just ran the two new sticks and it was still at 2133. It only seems to like the stock memory. Not sure how to even upgrade now. New motherboard?
Personally, I would wait to see what EVGA says.My 3070 decide to die yesterday, luckily EVGA has 3 years warenty, so I sent it in but won't know the status and also I don't know if they even have any GPU's to replace it with, so I went to microcenter and got a refurbished 3080 founders edition with 2 years warrenty for $450. Was that a ok deal or should I have gotten something cheap to tide me over till my 3070 either get fixed or replaced
You need to find memory which has its JEDEC/stock speed set as afaster speed. Rather than XMP.
Personally, I would wait to see what EVGA says.
Aside from that, $450 for a refurbished 3080 is too much. You can get open box and refurbished 4070 for that much or less. Heck, sometimes you can get them new for that much.
Anything 3200CL22 is not XMP certified, that's a JEDEC spec speed. Find things such as 3200CL16 at 1.35V. Avoid Corsair DDR4, as well.
What's wrong with Corsair? I'm looking at a set of their 6000MT DDR5 for my next upgrade coming up soon.Anything 3200CL22 is not XMP certified, that's a JEDEC spec speed. Find things such as 3200CL16 at 1.35V. Avoid Corsair DDR4, as well.
Anything 3200CL22 is not XMP certified, that's a JEDEC spec speed. Find things such as 3200CL16 at 1.35V. Avoid Corsair DDR4, as well.
Their DDR4 at this stage is a cesspool of low quality to straight defective ICs with horrendous stability even at simple XMP speeds, this is extremely common on their lower end Vengeance SKUs. And their DDR5 isn't better, you want and only want DDR5 kits with Hynix ICs and Corsair still uses a mix of Micron, Samsung and Hynix which you can not easily tell from the spec alone, unless you specifically know what you are looking at (subtle primary timing differences).What's wrong with Corsair? I'm looking at a set of their 6000MT DDR5 for my next upgrade coming up soon.
3200CL22 is the JEDEC speed (the max JEDEC certified speed for DDR4), 3200CL16 however is a XMP spec speed and what you actually want.The post above specified I needed to find memory where 3200 was the JEDEC speed. I do not have access to xmp. I need xmp certified?
Their DDR4 at this stage is a cesspool of low quality to straight defective ICs with horrendous stability even at simple XMP speeds, this is extremely common on their lower end Vengeance SKUs. And their DDR5 isn't better, you want and only want DDR5 kits with Hynix ICs and Corsair still uses a mix of Micron, Samsung and Hynix which you can not easily tell from the spec alone, unless you specifically know what you are looking at (subtle primary timing differences).
3200CL22 is the JEDEC speed (the max JEDEC certified speed for DDR4), 3200CL16 however is a XMP spec speed and what you actually want.
So what's a good brand/model for DDR5 these days?Their DDR4 at this stage is a cesspool of low quality to straight defective ICs with horrendous stability even at simple XMP speeds, this is extremely common on their lower end Vengeance SKUs. And their DDR5 isn't better, you want and only want DDR5 kits with Hynix ICs and Corsair still uses a mix of Micron, Samsung and Hynix which you can not easily tell from the spec alone, unless you specifically know what you are looking at (subtle primary timing differences).
Download https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html, run it and post a screenshot of the motherboard, memory and SPD tabs.
For AMD, anything 6000CL30 with Hynix ICs (A or M-die are both good), for Intel, can either do that or go to anything 6400CL32 and up, as these are guaranteed to be Hynix A-die which is the top IC for high speed DDR5.
An incredibly wasteful and unbalanced build with one of the most nonsensical CPUs on the market, a grossly overkill motherboard that doesn't grant any practical benefit for a general user. And if your use case isnt mainly gaming, a bigger, higher resolution screen is a significant quality of life increase for both general browsing and productivity.I'm ready to upgrade my ten year old PC. I'm trying to put together an order on cyberpowerpc (assembling something myself is quite difficult in the living space I'm in) with a budget of around $2000. Can someone confirm these specs are relatively future proof? The videocard isn't anything special because I won't be doing much gaming, and even so, it'll only be a 1080p.
CAS: CyberPowerPC AMETHYST 242 HIGH AIRFLOW Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ Side Tempered Glass Swing Door + 3x ARGB Fans [+1] (White)
CPU: AMD Ryzen™ 9 Processor 7900X3D 12-core/24-thread 4.4GHz [Turbo 5.6GHz] 140MB Cache AM5
HDD: 2TB WD BLACK SN850X (PCIe Gen4) NVMe M.2 SSD - Seq R/W: Up to 7300/6600 MB/s, Rnd R/W up to 1200/1100k [+143] (Single Drive)
MEMORY: 32GB (16GBx2) DDR5/6000MHz Dual Channel Memory [+60] (GSKILL TRIDENT Z5 RGB [WHITE] [+60])
MOTHERBOARD: ASROCK X670E PG Lightning AM5 ATX w/ 2.5GbT LAN, (3)PCIe x16, (1)PCIe x1, (2)M.2, (4)SATA [+85]
POWERSUPPLY: 850 Watts - High Power 850W 80+ GOLD ATX 3.0 Ready w/ PCIE 12+4Pins Connector for PCIe 5.0 graphics cards
VIDEO: AMD Radeon™ RX 7600 8GB GDDR6 Video Card [-507] (Single Card)
Frankly I'd like a laptop, but everything I've researched seems like it's either loud or burn a hole through my table.
I'm ready to upgrade my ten year old PC. I'm trying to put together an order on cyberpowerpc (assembling something myself is quite difficult in the living space I'm in) with a budget of around $2000. Can someone confirm these specs are relatively future proof? The videocard isn't anything special because I won't be doing much gaming, and even so, it'll only be a 1080p.
CAS: CyberPowerPC AMETHYST 242 HIGH AIRFLOW Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ Side Tempered Glass Swing Door + 3x ARGB Fans [+1] (White)
CPU: AMD Ryzen™ 9 Processor 7900X3D 12-core/24-thread 4.4GHz [Turbo 5.6GHz] 140MB Cache AM5
HDD: 2TB WD BLACK SN850X (PCIe Gen4) NVMe M.2 SSD - Seq R/W: Up to 7300/6600 MB/s, Rnd R/W up to 1200/1100k [+143] (Single Drive)
MEMORY: 32GB (16GBx2) DDR5/6000MHz Dual Channel Memory [+60] (GSKILL TRIDENT Z5 RGB [WHITE] [+60])
MOTHERBOARD: ASROCK X670E PG Lightning AM5 ATX w/ 2.5GbT LAN, (3)PCIe x16, (1)PCIe x1, (2)M.2, (4)SATA [+85]
POWERSUPPLY: 850 Watts - High Power 850W 80+ GOLD ATX 3.0 Ready w/ PCIE 12+4Pins Connector for PCIe 5.0 graphics cards
VIDEO: AMD Radeon™ RX 7600 8GB GDDR6 Video Card [-507] (Single Card)
Frankly I'd like a laptop, but everything I've researched seems like it's either loud or burn a hole through my table.
An incredibly wasteful and unbalanced build with one of the most nonsensical CPUs on the market, a grossly overkill motherboard that doesn't grant any practical benefit for a general user. And if your use case isnt mainly gaming, a bigger, higher resolution screen is a significant quality of life increase for both general browsing and productivity.
A much better more all around choice for general use and games, can use the rest on a great 1440p high refresh rate monitor:
Thank you both! This is exactly the type of feedback I was looking for.Future proof? Sure. I don't know what you are going to be doing with the machine, but the motherboard is almost assuredly overkill. the CPU may also be overkill depending on your workloads. RAM and SSD are fine. I would reign in the motherboard and CPU, and bump up the GPU to maybe a 7800 XT or around that performance. that will be a bit more balanced and last you years.
Thank you both! This is exactly the type of feedback I was looking for.
Taking that newegg link as a starting point, is there anything grievous in this build?
I would get a 7600x and buy a 4070 super or 7900 GRE.Thank you both! This is exactly the type of feedback I was looking for.
Taking that newegg link as a starting point, is there anything grievous in this build?
Yes, that should work!
Anything 3200CL22 is not XMP certified, that's a JEDEC spec speed. Find things such as 3200CL16 at 1.35V. Avoid Corsair DDR4, as well.
You should have read back through a few of BackLogJoe's post about this. Its a pre-built Asus computer, which doesn't have XMP as a BIOS feature. So, it will only read and set a JEDEC programmed speed. And it has no other settings to manually overclock RAM speed, either.Their DDR4 at this stage is a cesspool of low quality to straight defective ICs with horrendous stability even at simple XMP speeds, this is extremely common on their lower end Vengeance SKUs. And their DDR5 isn't better, you want and only want DDR5 kits with Hynix ICs and Corsair still uses a mix of Micron, Samsung and Hynix which you can not easily tell from the spec alone, unless you specifically know what you are looking at (subtle primary timing differences).
3200CL22 is the JEDEC speed (the max JEDEC certified speed for DDR4), 3200CL16 however is a XMP spec speed and what you actually want.
Techpowerup says RTX 2060 is 42% of an 4070, at 1440p.Upgrading from I5 9400F, RTX 2060, 8GB DDR4, 1TB HDD computer to a I5 12400f, RTX 4070 Super, 16GB DDR5, 1tb NVMe M.2 SS. It's prebuilt, but did get a deal on it.
I'm not too savvy with computers, how much of a performance increase can I expect? I didn't want to spend too much and go for a 4080 or 4090. I only have a 1440p monitor.
That's a very fucked up thing for Asus to do... I assume it's a Hx10 motherboard? That's why I was asking for CPU-Z shots.You should have read back through a few of BackLogJoe's post about this. Its a pre-built Asus computer, which doesn't have XMP as a BIOS feature. So, it will only read and set a JEDEC programmed speed. And it has no other settings to manually overclock RAM speed, either.
Looks fine but I would try to bump up to a 4080 super if you can somehow. The motherboard here is also a bit overkill and the ram kit could be better (look for 6000 c30),Hello folks. I've got the opportunity to get a prebuilt PC, and just wanted to check I wasn't making any mistakes with the hardware configuration.
Case: FRACTAL NORTH TG GAMING CASE (WHITE)
Processor (CPU): AMD Ryzen 7 7700X Eight Core CPU (4.5GHz-5.4GHz/40MB CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard: GIGABYTE X670E AORUS PRO X WHITE (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 5.0, Wi-Fi 7)
Memory (RAM): 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 5200MHz (2 x 16GB) KIT - WHITE
Graphics Card: 16GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 4070 Ti SUPER - WHITE - HDMI, DP, LHR
1st M.2 SSD Drive: 2TB CORSAIR CORE XT MP600 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (up to 5000 MB/R, 4400 MB/W)
Power Supply: CORSAIR 750W RMe SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Processor Cooling: PCS FrostFlow 100 ARGB ICE Series High Performance CPU Cooler - WHITE
Mainly going to be used for gaming, but will also be using it for work (via remote connections, so nothing taxing) and occasional image editing. I don't need to run stuff at the highest end, but would like to play newer releases (like Senua's Saga, for instance, Ghost of Tsushima etc. Apex is also a staple in my group).
Anything I should bump up? Could maybe squeeze a little bit more into the budget if it really needs it.
Thanks in advance.
Looks fine but I would try to bump up to a 4080 super if you can somehow. The motherboard here is also a bit overkill and the ram kit could be better (look for 6000 c30),
Is that pcspecialist? Just be aware that these configurator websites are usually very overpriced.Thanks for the advice. For the motherboard, what would you recommend instead?
I updated the card to "16GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 4080 SUPER - WHITE - HDMI, DP, LHR" and the ram to "32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 16GB) KIT - WHITE", and it's just about within budget.
Is that pcspecialist? Just be aware that these configurator websites are usually very overpriced.
What's the total price for the build looking like?
Alright, enjoy the process! With that budget you should always go for a 7800X3D.It is pcspecialist, yes. With those changes, the build is at 2.4k but I won't be paying for some of it. I'm going to do a comparison between this and buying parts to see if the difference is worth it, but just settling on parts first :)
The b650 should be good, but any of the x670's are also fine if they are not much more than the b650. I would also put in an 850w PSU if it's not too much more, and maybe a cheaper air cooler for the CPU if there is an option.Thanks for the advice. For the motherboard, what would you recommend instead?
I updated the card to "16GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 4080 SUPER - WHITE - HDMI, DP, LHR" and the ram to "32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 16GB) KIT - WHITE", and it's just about within budget.
Alright, enjoy the process! With that budget you should always go for a 7800X3D.
The b650 should be good, but any of the x670's are also fine if they are not much more than the b650. I would also put in an 850w PSU if it's not too much more, and maybe a cheaper air cooler for the CPU if there is an option.
You basically want a good GPU, you can save as much as you want on the other components.I'm in my yearly 'I should get a gaming PC'-mood at the moment. Seems like a great time with all the console games coming to PC, and there being lots of games I would absolutely love to play but are only on PC.
Anyway, I'd only get the PC to play games on. For all other things I'm staying on my Macs. Is there anything I could cheap out on if literally the only thing the machine would be used for is gaming? I'm guessing the answer is no, but here's hoping.
I'm in my yearly 'I should get a gaming PC'-mood at the moment. Seems like a great time with all the console games coming to PC, and there being lots of games I would absolutely love to play but are only on PC.
Anyway, I'd only get the PC to play games on. For all other things I'm staying on my Macs. Is there anything I could cheap out on if literally the only thing the machine would be used for is gaming? I'm guessing the answer is no, but here's hoping.
I've got a 1440p 144Hz and a 4k60 monitor. Not entirely sure yet, but I think 1500 eu would be my sweet spot, but I would potentially be willing to go to 2000 eu. And since I can book it as a business expense that'd actually be ~1800 - 2420 eu with taxes. But you know... I'd rather spend a bit less than more.You basically want a good GPU, you can save as much as you want on the other components.
Did you have a budget in mind? What kind of monitor are you using? Where are you from?
To add to arrado's question, what games are you looking to play? It's cheap enough to make a PC that can play Warzone or Valorant, but if you're looking at newer single player titles (like Alan Wake 2 or Hellblade) then you'll need a much more beefy computer.
I've got a 1440p 144Hz and a 4k60 monitor. Not entirely sure yet, but I think 1500 eu would be my sweet spot, but I would potentially be willing to go to 2000 eu. And since I can book it as a business expense that'd actually be ~1800 - 2420 eu with taxes. But you know... I'd rather spend a bit less than more.
Odds are also that I could get a boat load of RAM for cheap/free and maybe a decent/good CPU for free as my friend is head IT at a big company and wants to hook me up because he'd join me in this PC adventure, lol.
These days I mostly just play a bit of Warzone, F1, and whatever Gamepass has to offer me. Ideally I would like to play games where I can have both my quality and performance mode in one. So the high fidelity graphics with a higher framerate. You just take quite the graphics hit when you decide to play at a higher framerate on console, especially when you go 120, and that's just such a bummer.