Well said, " games journalism" over this whole situation has been embarrassing. Sadly not a shock though, it's obvious the industry cares more about staying in the goodness graces of publishers
we don't need to be insinuating this kind of stuff
Here we probably could, but every other place is gonna have people defaulting to you being a gg idiot and disregard what you say.
Honestly I can't blame game journos from doing that after the last few years, they've been bombarded with bad faith bullshit. It doesn't help that any legitimate criticism is used by gg too.
I've reported you already, but before you go, can you tell us how you feel about /trapshota/? You know, the board that was being advertised above this AMA?
Well I haven't lurked past leftypol and /v/ tbh. Leftypol has a good amount of leftist literature in their sticky tho.
I think for the foreseeable future the only criticism games journalism will pay mind to will come from inside the industry. And again, I can't really blame them.
Sure, agreed for this issue. I was just saying generally it's gonna be real difficult.I don't care about any of these other places. Hell, half of them would cheer on you if they believed you're a GGer.
Yeah, I get that, but in this specific case hopefully it should be easier to prove concerns are legitimate seeing as they're against a GG / alt-right site. Although I guess I wouldn't put it past GG to come up with some sort of twisted false flag operation out of this, too. :/
Gamedevs going in would definitely get through for this since Devs have been victims of that b.s too.There's actually been harsher criticism against THQ from inside the industry than from most news outlets, so I wouldn't be surprised to eventually see that criticism turned towards news outlets if they keep being weirdly soft about it.
You've got my vote.100% behind banning threads on THQ games and only allowing news threads like this about the company. Child Porn should be a hard line, period.
Well I haven't lurked past leftypol and /v/ tbh. Leftypol has a good amount of leftist literature in their sticky tho.
whoops, missed that, my bad. damn shame though.
oh you mean /v/, where THQ was welcomed with a friendly hiel hitler? seems like a cool placeWell I haven't lurked past leftypol and /v/ tbh. Leftypol has a good amount of leftist literature in their sticky tho.
Okay, can I ask what further news you wanted outlets to keep doing today? I have tried to call multiple THQN people today, they're in lockdown mode. What story did you want from that? "Company that didn't comment yesterday is hella not commenting today"?
naming THQ Nordic in their headlines would be a start.Okay, can I ask what further news you wanted outlets to keep doing today? I have tried to call multiple THQN people today, they're in lockdown mode. What story did you want from that? "Company that didn't comment yesterday is hella not commenting today"?
Yeah you're right, they're probably just sympathetic towards THQN.Surely going full gamergate with this kind of conspiracy shit is not the way to handle criticism with how some gaming websites have been dealing with this?
This is some bullshit.
You may have had to do it, and had a hard time doing it, but that doesn't mean that your experience was as hard as it gets. In fact, it wasn't, because "as hard as it gets" is "impossible and you're a slave to the system".
I can guarantee you that there's at least one person that simply will not have the opportunity to get a new job by, some arbitrary deadline, two or three years from now even, and the only choice they'll have is to continue working at THQ Nordic or not be able to fucking afford to live.
I'm not saying this to say the whole "you shouldn't boycott because it'll hurt devs" rhetoric. Put your money where your morals are. But making a "guilt by association no matter what" moral fucking judgment on individual employees, frankly ever, is some privileged pearl-clutching. We live in a capitalist society, and for as long as we do, there will always be good, moral people who don't have any choice but to work for immoral corporations. Always!
...because?Yeah you're right, they're probably just sympathetic towards THQN.
Because they're a company that up until. very recently was generally pretty likable for bringing back a lot of dead IPs. If you care about video games more than anything else in the world it makes sense.
Well, yes, informing people that they are actively dodging answering about this is worthwhile. If no pressure to answer is applied, they have no reason to do so. They want this to pass.Okay, can I ask what further news you wanted outlets to keep doing today? I have tried to call multiple THQN people today, they're in lockdown mode. What story did you want from that? "Company that didn't comment yesterday is hella not commenting today"?
Okay, can I ask what further news you wanted outlets to keep doing today? I have tried to call multiple THQN people today, they're in lockdown mode. What story did you want from that? "Company that didn't comment yesterday is hella not commenting today"?
FWIW, I thought you did a really good job with GI's coverage. You portrayed the seriousness of the matter really well and included many of the details, kudos.Okay, can I ask what further news you wanted outlets to keep doing today? I have tried to call multiple THQN people today, they're in lockdown mode. What story did you want from that? "Company that didn't comment yesterday is hella not commenting today"?
Senran Kagura and other ecchi anime games of that nature are banned from this forum, right?Official Staff CommunicationTo address a few recurring points: We will not be banning games published by THQ Nordic and subsidiaries like Deep Silver. You are instead welcome to continue raising the issue in threads relevant to the publisher and its games. Disclaimers and boycotts as user driven initiatives are welcome as well.
As we have said before, issues like this should be talked about and should be aired in the open. There is not and will never be such a thing as a "partial ban" on a video game here.
Please do not throw around highly inflammatory accusations or insults at your fellow members. Thank you.
Senran Kagura and other ecchi anime games of that nature are banned from this forum, right?
But games made by a company that embraces real child pornography and neonazis are fine to discuss?
I don't understand this decision. We're talking about a community that harms real flesh and bone humans, here, not anime. Why is THQ Nordic more welcome than, say, yandere simulator?
Because the Darksiders series and Shenmue 3 don't actually contain porn (or porn-like material) in them AFAIK
The Era policy is pretty consistent and clear-cut to me.
Nevertheless, we aren't talking about a few low level employees, here - we're talking about the top executives and publicists for the company itself. The people who dictate the company's associations and identity, and the associations and identity of the company itself.Because the Darksiders series and Shenmue 3 don't actually contain porn (or porn-like material) in them AFAIK
The Era policy is pretty consistent and clear-cut to me.
Deep Silver is independently operated.It is published by deep silver which is owned by THQ Nordic but I am glad the resetera staff clarified this, because not talking about any of the games published by them would be become an issue since the list is pretty big with some major titles.
Okay, can I ask what further news you wanted outlets to keep doing today? I have tried to call multiple THQN people today, they're in lockdown mode. What story did you want from that? "Company that didn't comment yesterday is hella not commenting today"?
That's atrocious. The whole tone of the piece is "Those wacky video game companies do the craziest things". Stark contrast to the seriousness of the WaPo piece.
Didn't reddit have a child porn problem as well? Now I'm fully aware 8chan is more of a hellish wild west in comparison, but it just seems weird to me that a Reddit AMA is completely fine and non-suspect despite having a ridiculous over-abundance of scummy havens like thedonald, redpill, 'braincels' (where people will celebrate terrorist attacks and other atrocities) I haven't kept up with Reddit in a while (for obvious reasons) but I'm sure there's something new and disgusting festering around in there.
I guess the point I'm trying to make is that to me, the line between Reddit and 4chan/8chan is extremely, extremely thin.
My understanding is they're a subsidiary, but they're a distinct entity that makes their own deicisions and doesn't share liability.Are they ? it was my understanding that deep silver was the publishing wing of Koch Media which was aquired by THQ Nordic does that not mean they too are owned by THQ Nordic ?
I think the idea is that the banned games are banned because any discussion of them has to, or will inevitably, break some part of Rule III. about NSFW content. They aren't banned because they have heinous moral codes (although they pretty much all do) but because they are sexually or graphically explicit by nature, such that they cannot be discussed without some form of tacit endorsement or spreading of that explicit content, and THQ Nordic/Deep Silver don't have any games like that.Senran Kagura and other ecchi anime games of that nature are banned from this forum, right?
But games made by a company that embraces real child pornography and neonazis are fine to discuss?
I don't understand this decision. We're talking about a community that harms real flesh and bone humans, here, not anime. Why is THQ Nordic more welcome than, say, yandere simulator?
Note: I personally don't think that either should be banned from discussion, but, if THQ Nordic games are welcome, I don't see why senran kagura shouldn't be welcome. And if Senran Kagura isn't welcome, neither should THQ Nordic.
At that point what's the difference between Reddit and Facebook or Twitter? All have major problems with abusive content and have acted far too slowly to stop them from spreading. The difference is that while those sites have tons and tons of issues, they are mainstream websites where the vast majority of their millions of users never see or seek out such content and have relatively strict standards and moderation for AMAs and similar marketing events. The issue is that they could have chosen a site that can be and is used daily by millions for legitimate, non-hateful purposes but chose to go to one that exists solely for edgelord pieces of shit to share hateful content.Didn't reddit have a child porn problem as well? Now I'm fully aware 8chan is more of a hellish wild west in comparison, but it just seems weird to me that a Reddit AMA is completely fine and non-suspect despite having a ridiculous over-abundance of scummy havens like thedonald, redpill, 'braincels' (where people will celebrate terrorist attacks and other atrocities) I haven't kept up with Reddit in a while (for obvious reasons) but I'm sure there's something new and disgusting festering around in there.
I guess the point I'm trying to make is that to me, the line between Reddit and 4chan/8chan is extremely, extremely thin.
I disagree. I know Reddit has terrible communities (some of the absolute worst out there) but I use it everyday and I've literally never encountered any of these horrible things that appear as soon as you visit the chans. The use of slurs and other channy behaviours are not allowed in most of Reddit I'd say.Didn't reddit have a child porn problem as well? Now I'm fully aware 8chan is more of a hellish wild west in comparison, but it just seems weird to me that a Reddit AMA is completely fine and non-suspect despite having a ridiculous over-abundance of scummy havens like thedonald, redpill, 'braincels' (where people will celebrate terrorist attacks and other atrocities) I haven't kept up with Reddit in a while (for obvious reasons) but I'm sure there's something new and disgusting festering around in there.
I guess the point I'm trying to make is that to me, the line between Reddit and 4chan/8chan is extremely, extremely thin.