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THQ Nordic holding an AMA on... 8chan (UP: website linked to multiple mass shootings) READ THREADMARKS
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Sadly. It's more of a "I don't even think about you at all". I don't want to be their target audience. I'm already too busy with a massive backlog that this is a great reason to keep it that way lol.
I rather spend it on EA, as shitty as they may be.
Hypothetically, yes. Not happening though. To the console makers, it'll be an honest mistake. They removed the link to 8ch on their twitter and it's "good enough" for supporters.
Much shittier games and devs have survived the bullshit they create.
I had yet to buy anything from them and it will stay that way.
A real shame, it was a company I wanted to support.
Was.
I'm getting some gamergate flashbacks with how things are playing out. Back when gamergate was in full swing a lot of the games media drop the ball hard in their lack of response to that hate group.
Afterwords all I heard was how they were going to do better, how they were caught off guard and they wouldn't let this happen again. As we can see from their lack of agency to this those words were nothing but hollow platitudes.
Afterwords all I heard was how they were going to do better, how they were caught off guard and they wouldn't let this happen again. As we can see from their lack of agency to this those words were nothing but hollow platitudes.
THQ isn't in a court room buddy. They don't deserve any suspension of disbelief for this cross promotion of hate and ill will.
It is a good article. And it's a shame that print and youtube media covering this is so shockingly rare.
GamesIndustry.biz just put up their new podcast and they are talking about the topic pretty in depth. They also suggest some possible consequences.
Check it out:
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/artic...try-biz-podcast-when-thq-nordic-visited-8chan
Edit: Oh I guess I'm far to late for that one
Check it out:
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/artic...try-biz-podcast-when-thq-nordic-visited-8chan
Edit: Oh I guess I'm far to late for that one
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Yeah it really doesn't take much commitment, and it frees up money to spend on other things, so it's like barely a sacrifice, but it's something.
I don't know what games are under the THQ Nordic GmbH umbrella though. If I'll actually be boycotting anything at all, or just continuing not buying games I already wasn't going to.
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Yes please. As I've said previously, I'm a fan of the disclaimer idea. And it's even better if it's in news articles on actual games media sites.
Because this will not stop being relevant until THQ actually properly addresses the situation, which evidently requires some pressure.
Do it. Everyone should do it.
I thought that GameRevolution article was so good, and had enough content about the industry in general and not just THQ that it deserved its own thread:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ga...-the-gaming-industry-accepts-toxicity.102746/
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ga...-the-gaming-industry-accepts-toxicity.102746/
I'm kind of wobbling back and forth on this, but I'll probably end up doing the whole company.
It is unfair to subsidiaries like Deep Silver, which have nothing to do with this shitshow. But they're all owned by THQ Nordic AB and its boss which won't do jack shit about severe incidents like this.
I'm a lot more enthusiastic. Long term I see this incident as the beginning of THQ hanging themselves on their own rope. If they 'get away'with it they will keep doing it until it festers enough that major outlets will happily pull the chair from under them and they literally have zero defense. You can claim ignorance the FIRST time. But 2-3 times after? Your cooked. Especially with the rise in awareness of digital media (YouTube) being used as a covert front to expose kids to pedophilia and other disgusting fetishes.
A German podcast also adressed the topic (it's behind a paywall)
https://www.gamespodcast.de/2019/03/01/skandal-um-thq/
They did some research about the two people involved in the issue. One of them is politically far left and the other one also seems to be a normal guy. So you can assume that their political background isn't the reason for this disaster. The same can be said about THQ Nordic, "Refugee Project Ute Bock" was the featured charity in one of their Humble Bundles. All employees they spoke to were in shock, nobody expected something like this. THQ Nordic refused to give the podcasters another comment.
The podcasters assume that this PR catastrophe could hurt THQ for years. Their behavior was incompetent and idiotic. The excuse only made things worse and they obviously lied about some things. The podcasters have no clue what they were thinking.
So either it was a giant stupidity or a deliberate provocation to get attention.
https://www.gamespodcast.de/2019/03/01/skandal-um-thq/
They did some research about the two people involved in the issue. One of them is politically far left and the other one also seems to be a normal guy. So you can assume that their political background isn't the reason for this disaster. The same can be said about THQ Nordic, "Refugee Project Ute Bock" was the featured charity in one of their Humble Bundles. All employees they spoke to were in shock, nobody expected something like this. THQ Nordic refused to give the podcasters another comment.
The podcasters assume that this PR catastrophe could hurt THQ for years. Their behavior was incompetent and idiotic. The excuse only made things worse and they obviously lied about some things. The podcasters have no clue what they were thinking.
So either it was a giant stupidity or a deliberate provocation to get attention.
I swear I keep telling myself not to read the comments sections, failing miserably, and then losing years off my life via 8chan apologism/disingenuous ERA comparisons.
Great article, Imran.
Great article by Imran. Thank you for not letting them get away with it that easily.
Expected, but still fucking disappointing.
Excellent article, horrible industry.
I seriously don't understand how this is blowing over. This isn't a publisher releasing a game in a broken state, I can't remember if we've ever seen a situation this bad before in the gaming industry. And not just bad, but brazen too.
Yet there's so little follow up.
Damn resetera continues to make the man children mad. I definitely don't think this community is perfect but lol at trying to compare it with a delisted from Google site that has to continually publicly state that child pornography isn't allowed there.
It will never not be amusing seeing them try to equate ResetEra with something as vile as 8chan. People are banned from ResetEra for things as "simple" as slurs here or mildly insulting another user here. 8chan users host, and regularly link to, child porn and embrace racism without repercussion. But yeah, we're totally as bad as them, lol. Riiiiight. They have lost all connections to reality.
Btw mods here, I'm not knocking your moderation or rules on this site, in case there is any confusion.
This is what we need. Good shit.
Comments might've been pretty bad anyway, but probably to some extent it's extra bad now because the shitheads THQ purposely attracted are now out there defending them and attacking anyone not doing the same.
Appreciate the transcription.
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And that is what THQN want. They wanted a rabid fanbase that will defend them no matter the controversy. They love that there is a base out there that will shift criticism to "sjw's getting mad for no reason".
Damn, this is a really good write up. It infuriates me to see so many already moving on but I'm glad that there are people out there keeping on top of this and intending to do so for the foreseeable future.
I was thinking about it, but I posted that GameRevolution thread just before seeing it. Not sure if mods would be happy with 3 related threads all going at once.
By all means, if someone wants to try it, I would be all for it. It's a great article and the more pressure, the better.
Looked at the article and I agree, this is a good take on the whole thing. Honestly, I don't think what we do now is as important as what we continue to do later. The tactic THQ Nordic is employing is to keep silent about this and let it blow over. The obvious solution is to not let them talk about anything else without asking them why they haven't addressed this.
I'm also not sure about the article focusing so much on Philipp Brock. I know he's the one who is getting the focus in general, but considering that he's not the highest guy on the rung that was involved in this, I don't agree that we have absolutely no reason not to take Brock at his word when he says it's all his responsibility. I think Reinhard shouldn't be allowed to lay low either.
I'm also not sure about the article focusing so much on Philipp Brock. I know he's the one who is getting the focus in general, but considering that he's not the highest guy on the rung that was involved in this, I don't agree that we have absolutely no reason not to take Brock at his word when he says it's all his responsibility. I think Reinhard shouldn't be allowed to lay low either.
Maybe make a thread with all the related articles, videos, etc. Make it a conversation at large rather than just solely focused on THQ.
The problem is that constrained megathreads typically have worse levels of participation. Having it pop up in new threads a couple of times a day is much more likely to get the attention of someone who isn't already aware of the situation.
One big thread of everything works if you want to have a campaign thread to link to or something like that though - something with a clear purpose by itself, while other threads can still be made. A "hold the industry accountable for supporting bigotry" campaign or something.
Excellent article, mostly terrible comments that make me sad for our present and future.
It's amazing that this isn't even being covered (apart from one article) from the angle of "developers are mortified by parent company."
Nope, we gotta put out more Anthem articles, that's the crucial bit of news this week.
Nope, we gotta put out more Anthem articles, that's the crucial bit of news this week.
I was absolutely going to buy Metro Exodus this weekend, that's not happening anymore.
I might pick up a used copy in a couple of years, but not a fucking dime of my cash is going towards THQNordic until there's a very viable regime change.
Shouldn't have read the comments because now my fucking blood is boiling.
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You know. Fuck it, I think I might try my hand on creating a video about this in Finnish. I'm not sure if it'll get more than two views, but at least I'll have tried. Not sure how quickly I can get one made since I have zero experience in making videos, but I'm tech savvy enough that I know I can do it through some trial and error.
Brief segment on the Easy Allies podcast about this.
Mostly poking fun at it, but do a decent job of breaking down why it's so awful.
Don't agree with the conclusion of giving money to charity as a solution, they do need to fire the individual(s) responsible, but they do have a decent discussion of it.
I'm glad because sometimes EZA opt not to focus on controversies etc, but they clearly recognised that they did need to cover this one.
Mostly poking fun at it, but do a decent job of breaking down why it's so awful.
Don't agree with the conclusion of giving money to charity as a solution, they do need to fire the individual(s) responsible, but they do have a decent discussion of it.
I'm glad because sometimes EZA opt not to focus on controversies etc, but they clearly recognised that they did need to cover this one.
This just popped up in the other thread:
Seems an awful lot like PR are straight up sending out free games in the hopes it makes people fall in line.
Seems an awful lot like PR are straight up sending out free games in the hopes it makes people fall in line.
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Yeah I caught that as well. It's real blatant what the message behind that is and I'm curious how often they've done it in the days since this all started.
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I've been away from the gaming scene from years, but I'm very happily surprised to see Game Informer take the entire industry to task. Shit like this isn't surprising when the ESA—the gaming industry's ostensible lobby group—is throwing parties with The Daily Caller or quietly lending support to a dozen other conservative causes.
Maybe they were hired for the games themselves and not whatever shit the company is doing, assuming they're using an external company for each game's PR. I know if I wasn't being paid to manage their mess that I wouldn't attempt to do so.
That's kind of what I think too.
I know I get press mailings about THQ titles. However, they're sent by a third-party company that literally handles press mailing and review key distribution for a BUNCH of companies, not just THQ. That company isn't obviously going to say anything about it since it has probably has nothing to do with them.
Or maybe they did contact someone actually working at THQ for a statement and they still got a key? Typically, you aren't getting keys directly from the publishers, but in this case... who the hell knows anymore. The rulebook was already thrown out the window miles ago.
I'd more receipts on what lead them to say their political beliefs don't line up. Generally, people's understanding of these more fringe and hidden garbage ideologies is extremely poor, and I don't trust most people to identify who is or isn't a fascist.
Even experts on this stuff can't tell depending on how secretive they are about it, but interacting positively with 8chan like they did is one of the biggest tells you could possibly have.
At least in america, I don't think it's possible whatsoever to say anything said on THQ's ID in that AMA and be considered a "far left". You'd have to either have a translation error or a completely different definition of "far left".
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Will gladly stay away from everything THQ related after This.
Won't support a business that endorses this.
Won't support a business that endorses this.
I looked up what 8chan was, and yeah THQ Nordic messed up real hard.
