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THQ Nordic voted 'Best Games Company' of Gamescom 2019
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I wonder if their 8-chan stunt didn't actually help them in the end? It may have ultimately made them appear like an ally to the shitty side of gaming, while their "apology" and claims of ignorance probably mean that the backlash from the other side will be minimal when all is said and done...
I wonder if this won't ultimately be proven to have been a shrewd play, even if it is repugnant.
I wonder if this won't ultimately be proven to have been a shrewd play, even if it is repugnant.
Thisis how false information is spread and it's also how people will start to see this as a vendetta by people who are intent on spreading false info and stop paying attention.
They weren't complicit with CP. Let's stick to what they actually did, which was bad enough, we don't need to add things to make it seem even worse.
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They specifically state in the official Gamescom announcement video that it was chosen by fans. They obviously messed up somewhere.
That's cool. I just bought two switch games, because they were on sale. Red Faction ReMARStered and Darksiders.
I've been tempted to pick up Red Faction again. How does the remarstered edition run on the switch? Could use a game for slow times at work.
I'll be interested to see what more thqn has to bring to the table in the coming months and years. They've got a ton of great IP under their umbrella
I haven't started it yet. I literally just purchased them this morning. There's a Digital Foundry video comparing all the different versions. Switch version seemed fine for what I want out of it. Guerilla id meant to be a huge time killer for me. Lots of fun content to play around with.
Oh, duh lol
Should always start at DF, didn't think to check. Thanks
They willingly posted on 8chan, the website that proliferated child pornography and breeds actual mass murdering racists that compete for high scores in the amount of innocent people they massacre. They were greeted with hate speech and a banner of art depicting child rape. They advertised this website on Twitter for 12 hours.
What they did was deplorable.
Haha. When I'm doubt, check with DF. They're super honest/understanding what us normal people expect out of switch games.
Right, what they did was indefensible then and remains so now, but that doesn't mean they were complicit in child pornography. Sticking to the facts helps to spread the message further than having something in the message that allows for muddying of the waters.
So how is that being complicit with CP? Did the developers get busted by the cops or something?
By a jury you can find here https://www.gamescom.global/events-and-congresses/for-all/gamescom-award/gamescom-award-2.php
Fans voted
Category group: Consumer awards
Best Booth (Fan category)
Indie Arena Booth, Super Crowd Entertainment
Best eSports Experience(Fan category)
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate gamescom 2019 Invitational, Nintendo
Best Streamer/Let's Player (Fan category)
PietSmiet
gamescom "Most Wanted" Consumer Award (Fan category)
Borderlands 3, 2K
More awards here
by a jury and not by the public?
why did they say in the video it was voted by the public?
It seemed like they didn't have much of an idea what they were talking about. As they couldn't even tell how the voting works or where it happens. That official Gamescom site atleast lists it as a jury category.
So experts on Internet culture have concluded that ResetEra will never be truly accepted until it allows snowflakes to discuss their video games without ever being reminded of all the shit that goes on in the industry? Has it been that long that people have completely forgotten how and why this website was formed in the first place?
Threads involving THQN will continue to mention their bullshit pandering to bigots because their apology was half-assed and they took no meaningful actions. There was absolutely no closure to the incident. Compare that to how 3DR handled the Ion Fury situation for a contrasting lesson.
Threads involving THQN will continue to mention their bullshit pandering to bigots because their apology was half-assed and they took no meaningful actions. There was absolutely no closure to the incident. Compare that to how 3DR handled the Ion Fury situation for a contrasting lesson.
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Sebastian Ossowski, the guy in the video, is on the jury, you'd think he'd know. But who knows, maybe he mixed it up.
I bet it did help them. Marketing is about knowing your audience, for some people THQ Nordic probably is seen as someone standing up to censorship and political correctness.
Maybe if they kept posting on 8chan it would of harmed them (especially after 8chan went sort of mainstream after the Texas Walmart shooting), but they can spin it as an innocent mistake since they only did it once.
With THQ Nordic's success and what happened with Ion Fury I predict more companies just flat out ignoring complaints in the future.
That reminds me. Did Square Enix ever do anything about Koichi Sugiyama and his status as an Nanjing Massacre denier among other things? We sure don't get threads like this every time an Dragon Quest game is brought up..
The Sad Story of a Japanese Gaming Legend who Pretends War Crimes Never Happened
Here at Total Recall, we deal in history. Partly because I love my video games, but also because as a graduate in the field I love my history as well. So it saddens me deeply when I see people involved in video games trying to mess with real, actual history.
kotaku.com
You've got it wrong. It's more like ResetEra is an extremely insular community that no one outside of ResetEra -really- cares about. Ie, this site doesn't have some sort of great power over the industry at large. Outside of this site, most people aren't aware of the 8chan AMA, or they were aware but then forgot since it happened a while ago now. On this site, pretty much everyone knows at this point because of the people who incessantly bring it up in every topic remotely about THQN. Some here, probably you included, would say "great, that's good that people are finding out about it." I would argue that it's annoying as hell and accomplishes nothing.
You're preaching to the choir here, to an extent. You're not reaching anyone outside of this site with your message when you bring it up in every topic here. Just people who already are aware about it. So what's really the point of continually bringing it up? It's fine if you are personally boycotting the company over it, but you can't force that decision on others. Nor are others bad people if they choose to still buy and support THQN's games.
THQN is a massive publisher who has an extremely large umbrella. They're not really easy to avoid, nor should people have to avoid them. The developers of their games are not guilty of doing what they did.
What you're seeing here, and in most THQN topics, is people frustrated at being told they are guilty by association for supporting any given THQN product. It's just pure antagonism that helps nobody, and that is mainly what people are complaining about when they talk about toxicity here.
Again, if you want to boycott it, by all means do so. But you can't make other people do the same. And bringing it up and derailing every single topic about THQN into the same circular argument helps literally no one and does literally nothing. It just stifles conversation.
Very dismissive way to reply to my point. Sometimes people just want to actually talk about Biomutant or Darksiders or whatever without being accused of being horrible people. It's not a lot to ask.
It doesn't seem like you want conversation. You just want people to shut up so you can enjoy your game without being reminded about what happend.
Yeah he was directly asked where do people vote, but he couldn't answer it. So it seemed bit weird.
Quite the opposite. I do want conversation. It's you guys who take this stance who don't want conversation. You want people to agree they're awful and boycott their games.
"Reminding people about what happened" does literally nothing. It isn't going to accomplish a single thing. What is the point of you doing it other than to annoy? At the end of the day it wasn't a good look, but also most people involved with games coming out from THQN had nothing to do with it. And 8chan doesn't even exist anymore (Thank fuck). So at this point what is really the point of fighting this fight? It's pointless.
It's not me deciding, it just is. What is the goal of bringing it up in every topic? Make people feel bad? Or try to? If that's the case, it's just an asshole thing to do. And unlikely to even accomplish that objective.
Is it to try to raise awareness in the gaming community at large? If that's the case, that objective isn't going to be accomplished either, because those words aren't reaching the gaming community at large.
So yeah, it is absolutely pointless. It's just a fact.
Again, it's perfectly fine to boycott them. That's a personal decision, and perfectly justifiable. But you can't force those views on other people. That's where it crosses the line.
Find me a post where i say that you need to agree with me? Don't pretend that you care about it. U just want the buy the game without inconviences. You want people to not talk about it because it's anoying. Buy the damn games but don't tell people not to talk about the issues!! That's my only issue with you and the other people here in this thread thinking that we should just shut up!!
Probably because this "conversation" largely ended several months ago. And while it didn't end exactly how we wanted (i.e., the two idiots at THQN who conceived and managed the AMA went unpunished), it's a done deal now — and no amount of thread-derailing here is going to change this outcome in any way. The journalists are done writing about it, THQN no longer has idiotic ideas about where to do AMAs, every other place on the internet has put the issue to bed...it's no more. Thankfully, so is 8chan, but its former members are no-doubt gearing up for another battle elsewhere. We should be, too.
Talking about it does not equal forcing views on people. And you don't know what can be accomplished, that's not a fact. Surely you trying to argue that people shouldn't be allowed to talk about it in THQ threads, something that would have to be enforced by the mod team, is actually more of an action of trying to force your opinion on others? I thought that was "crossing a line"?
Stop spreading bullshit like this. Almost everyone covered the shitshow. A quick google search confirms this:
THQ Nordic delivered a masterclass in blowing up your brand
A series of unforced errors may forever taint the new THQ
www.polygon.com
THQ Nordic's 'Apology' Over 8chan Incident Isn't Worthy of Forgiveness
This isn't the bare minimum. The bare minimum involves disclosing steps on how you plan to regain trust.
www.vice.com
THQ Nordic Apologizes for Ill-Conceived 8chan AMA
The imageboard site has been linked to child porn, swatting, and online harassment.
variety.com
These are from the very first page. Fucking hell stop lying man.
It's been a long standing tradition that folks can make popcorn.gif type posts. Why do the moderators get to make these blanket decisions and not seek commentary from the actual community first? Maybe we like having these types of posts and it's part of the personality of the message board? Moderators also shouldn't be allowed to just change the way threads are moderated without, I don't know, letting the community know? I see nothing under announcements that the rules have changed. How about a warning that these types of posts are no longer being tolerated? Or, actually ask the community on how they feel about making such a huge change to how we behave on this forum? Is this just the act of one rogue moderator or did the moderating team decide these types of posts are a no-go? How about a little transparency when these decisions are made?
I don't understand how some decisions are made around here and I think the community is owed a little leeway before all these ban hammers are given out. It's not like we haven't had a million threads where this type of behavior was seen as ok. Without any notification, transparency, or community input, the rules just change? How is this ok?
What say you mods?
P.S. and no, this isn't an alt account for those who might think I'm one of the people in this thread who were banned.
It's interesting that one single post making the Germans = Nazi implication (and being rightfully banned and dunked on by everyone, including THQ boycotters) is "the state of discourse right now"; but multiple posts unironically using SJW as a pejorative and insisting they're every bit as bad as actual Nazis and pedophiles are completely ignored.
I wasn't cherry picking whatsoever I promise you, sorry if it came across that way and if I didn't make it clear,, that's my fault, but let me elaborate on my initial comment, when I said "this is the state of discourse right now" I was saying that this sort of language, irrespective of whatever way you lean on this issue, is not productive and serves no purpose whatsoever, I wasn't taking sides on the issue either, just to make that clear as well.
I think the use of the term SJW is ridiculous and conflating people who care about social issues with Nazis and pedophiles falls under the same banner as the above, that's what I mean by "the state of the discourse" I just want people to be more polite and engage with others in a constructive and mature way, that's all I was trying to say with that.
Also, I had not seen any posts up until that post using the term SJW or conflating them with Nazis and pedophiles but just for the record, that falls under the exact same banner as my original complaint about the germans = nazis.
The only point of posting the constant reminders that the 8chan AMA happened is to get people to try to agree with you. It's the equivalent of going into any other topic and going "I don't care about this." You should just not post instead.
Easy example: I think Biomutant is a cool game. I want to talk about Biomutant. Let's say I start a Biomutant thread. Maybe we'll get a few replies of people actually talking about the game and getting excite about how cool it looks. Suddenly someone comes in and posts about the 8chan AMA, which honestly has nothing to do with Biomutant apart from the fact the game is published by THQN. Suddenly the entire topic is derailed and it becomes about that.
Exactly this.
Give me a break. People can talk about whatever they want, what I am saying is that the continued one-note talking about this particular issue serves no point and only exists to derail any subject remotely in the vicinity of THQN.
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