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RexNovis

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Oct 25, 2017
4,194
That's a wrap for the day. We got 9 jurors seated in about 2.5 hours.

Doesn't mean we'll get finished tomorrow though. I think the way it works is we fill up the jury box (18 people) and then counsel gets to question and challenge them. Then we go round again, and again, until there's a full set that nobody's complaining about.

I've linked a couple of unrolled twitter threads into the trial summary post. As usual InnerCityPress is best at all the detail.

Starts up again 9:30 tomorrow.
I just read an update from NYT that said no jurors were seated today. Do you have a source for the 9 figure?
 

BWoog

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Oct 27, 2017
38,325
I'm enjoying the fact that he has to be there for the 6 or so weeks this will take. In public. Finally he has to do a (light) regular workday and we can all see how useless he is. He must hate being summoned like this. I think this sleepy thing will actually be damaging to him, especially if there are pictures. It's nowhere near the consequences he should get, but at least it's something, regardless of the outcome of the trial.

From normal people in this thread, it seems like these court days are unbelievably boring.

Now imagine them for someone like Trump who has the attention span of a goldfish and is now separated from his fawning sycophants. A more just hell I can't think of for Donny.
 

Tya

Member
Oct 30, 2017
3,665
It is insane that this reporter would do this.

www.mediaite.com

Washington Post Reporter Gives WAY Too Much Information About Potential Trump Juror

A reporter for the Washington Post relayed very specific details about a prospective juror in Donald Trump's criminal trial, which began on Monday.

A reporter for the Washington Post relayed very specific details about a prospective juror in Donald Trump's criminal trial, which began on Monday.

Jury selection commenced as the former president faces 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in Manhattan. District Attorney Alvin Bragg alleges that Trump cooked his books to obscure hush money payments to conceal extramarital affairs he had before the 2016 presidential election, which he won. Trump has pleaded not guilty to all counts.

Like many news outlets, the Post covered the start of the trial with a blow-by-blow of the proceedings. However, reporter David Nakamura, who covers the Department of Justice and civil rights, offered a very detailed description of a potential juror (which is not being linked to here):

The seventh prospective juror has lived on the Upper West Side for 23 years and has worked as a bookseller for six years for [REDACTED BY MEDIAITE]. He is married with two children, and his wife is a lawyer. He believes that "no one is above the law, whether a sitting president, a past president or a janitor."
 

Irrotational

Prophet of Truth
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Oct 25, 2017
7,177

Version 3.0

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Oct 27, 2017
11,212
The "family values we're-on-the-side-of-good" right wing apparatus bending themselves in pretzels to defend the guy that cheated on his wife, but also did that cheating with a porn star, but also paid off that porn star hush money, but also lied on business records to illegally conceal said hush money payments - it's so transparent and must be extremely entertaining for the aliens watching all this way out there in space.

Don't forget cheating on his wife with another woman, Playboy model Karen McDougal, over the course of a year, while his wife was pregnant. He didn't have to pay off Ms. McDougal; the National Enquirer did it for him, paying for her story while deceiving her that they were going to publish it, but instead shelving it.

It's possible this story will come up during this trial.
 
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phisheep

phisheep

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Oct 26, 2017
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I just read an update from NYT that said no jurors were seated today. Do you have a source for the 9 figure?

Sorry for misleading you there. Shouldn't have used the word 'seated'.

I meant that there are now 9 (potential) jurors in the jury box, but they haven't been subjected to questioning and challenge by counsel yet. That happens when all 18 seats are filled, so the number will go up and down. It's just a rough way of seeing what progress has been made.
 
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Oct 26, 2017
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First up today we get a hearing about what previous court rulings the DA can ask Trump about, should he choose to testify. Trump's team wants none of them.
 

RetroMG

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Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
6,739
I will say from the trial I sat on, the procedurals were boring, but the trial itself was interesting. (Although I sat on a trial where the defendant took a whole bunch of drugs and alcohol, got in a car, and caused at least eight hit and run accidents, the last of which was a fatality.)
 

No Depth

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Oct 27, 2017
18,311
I will say from the trial I sat on, the procedurals were boring, but the trial itself was interesting. (Although I sat on a trial where the defendant took a whole bunch of drugs and alcohol, got in a car, and caused at least eight hit and run accidents, the last of which was a fatality.)

Oof…but yea I sat on a trial that lasted six weeks once. Wrecked my summer, but it involved crooked cops blackmailing a known drug dealer. Trial took so long because there was a circus of witnesses, just an endless clown car of them. It was the sort of trial where a million voices spoke in unison about the incident, reflecting a single story told from so many perspectives, while even police force peers discussed prior shady shit on the character of the defendants painting them as problematic. It was beyond obvious at the outset what transpired and just how rotten and guilty they were, but dragged out for weeks to merely crush and hammer the point home.

Most days I played Game Boy in the juror chambers because there was little to actually discuss about the trial it given how open and shut it was. Almost nothing was presented that shifted perceptions throughout, lots of flailing by the defense lawyer. I think I beat Castlevania in that room.
 

Landy828

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Oct 26, 2017
13,427
Clemson, SC
(Runs Trump glaring at camera through AI)
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AI is good for something 😆
 

Binabik15

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Oct 28, 2017
4,634
Has much better hair than the original, not a very good portrait! Sad!


Personally hoping for some more meltdown tweets. Usually he ran off to so some safe space rallies when he had trouble, now he can't do that or will have to sit through the court proceedings first. So super Drowsy Donald at his rallies or no ego coddling for him. His poor heart 👀
 

Thalanil

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Aug 24, 2023
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Though theoretically possible, that's extremely unlikely. He's more likely to receive a series of fines, as he did in other trials.

So he is only getting jail if he keeps doing it despite the fines basically? Got it. Well knowing how he can't keep his mouth shut maybe it ends up happening anyway eventually lol.
 

Bengraven

Member
Oct 26, 2017
26,912
Florida
I love that he's screaming about this being an assault on America. Once again, trying very hard to get his people to March on his behalf. But give them credit they're staying the fuck away from that courthouse and leaving him to his tormentors. Just complaining from the safety of their own home.
 

Zoe

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Oct 25, 2017
14,278
It is insane that this reporter would do this.

www.mediaite.com

Washington Post Reporter Gives WAY Too Much Information About Potential Trump Juror

A reporter for the Washington Post relayed very specific details about a prospective juror in Donald Trump's criminal trial, which began on Monday.

Can't even edit his article without coming off as petty

This story has been updated to remove specific information about where prospective jurors work, which was detailed in open court.
 

Kenai

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Oct 26, 2017
6,221
Him having to remain in court for all this is one of the biggest repercussions this far. In theory it's not much but it's clearly making him upset which warms my heart

The "family values we're-on-the-side-of-good" right wing apparatus bending themselves in pretzels to defend the guy that cheated on his wife, but also did that cheating with a porn star, but also paid off that porn star hush money, but also lied on business records to illegally conceal said hush money payments - it's so transparent and must be extremely entertaining for the aliens watching all this way out there in space.

Thirty years ago this would have been a plotline stretched out over an entire season of a prime time sitcom and played for laughs/ridiculousness. Reality really is stranger than fiction
 

Hollywood Duo

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Oct 25, 2017
42,108
I'd love for him to actually use the defense I just wrote a check to my lawyer not knowing he was using it for hush money.
 
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Oct 26, 2017
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Phew. We finally got a full jury box. Now we get to see what a shitshow the lawyers' questioning is.
 

Futureman

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Oct 26, 2017
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what is the deal with court room photographers? I'm seeing some photos, but not many. Any chance we get sleeping photos or they are locked down on what photos they can take/release?
 
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Oct 26, 2017
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what is the deal with court room photographers? I'm seeing some photos, but not many. Any chance we get sleeping photos or they are locked down on what photos they can take/release?

They're only let in for a few minutes at the start of the day. After that they are relegated to the corridor outside.
 

Kensation

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The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
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Are they even going to be able to find 12 people who aren't either Trump fanatics or hate his guts?
 

Garp TXB

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Apr 1, 2020
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Are they even going to be able to find 12 people who aren't either Trump fanatics or hate his guts?
Lot's of weirdly oblivious people out there, not thinking about much beyond their little bubble. What worries me is the potential jurors with an agenda who know exactly how to lie at the right questions
 

Javaman

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Oct 31, 2017
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Lot's of weirdly oblivious people out there, not thinking about much beyond their little bubble. What worries me is the potential jurors with an agenda who know exactly how to lie at the right questions
With a case this big I'm sure both sides are going to be doing a full search for all social media accounts and looking for bias either way.
 

plagiarize

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Oct 25, 2017
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You can hate someone's guts and still give an impartial decision
Bingo. I genuinely think I could be an impartial juror here. It's about the facts, and whether they show the person broke the law. If the Prosecution can't establish that, I wouldn't pretend they had.

Obviously the defense wouldn't want me anywhere near the jury box though.