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Turn for Assassins Creed | Xbox One X vs Xbox 360 | 4K Love
- Thread starter LesPanes
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Tell me about it.
I am just standard PS4 owner, but this doesn't make me blink much in regards of console change. Expect for freakin' exclusives.
Looks incredible and I love MS's BC support, sadly I got too much backlog to shell out 500 to play last gen games right now. Is there a BC upgrade for Lost Odyssey, Tales of Vesperia, and jrpgs in general? That might actually push me to buy plus few exclusives that i'm interested in.
I don't think he is saying that they touched the original code, just that it had to have been coded a certain way initially for them to inject these upgrades. Likely in how they are managing things in the gpu. The possibly interesting thing about Gears 3 getting upgraded, is that maybe all Unreal engine games are possible to eventually have them touched.
Ah yeah, your interpretation would make more sense.
So I guess for native 4k, they are doing 4x 720p, so maybe they're prioritising those games with an easy route to integer upscaling. Although I don't know if all the games so far were originally 720p.
Yeah the engine thing could make sense, if they're hooking into the rendering of the original engine and tweaking settings to increase the output resolution.
I dunno, the technical details of this are outside my understanding, but I find it pretty fascinating. The Xbox One X, despite being cutting edge gaming hardware, is also a fantastic retro gaming machine.
I think I read that they testee every gaming engine known to consoles and tested every game. U can imagine how much R&D went into this beast. Nutso
Absolutely fantastic. Microsoft has slowly but steadily become an industry leader of backwards compatibility.
I don't understand what's misleading about it. Ofc this isn't a comparison of the power between 360 and One X. It's just a way to compare the image gains on One X.
So far it's:
Assassin's Creed
Fallout 3
Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion
Halo 3
Gears of War 3
Mirror's Edge
Skate 3
The games are listed on the Xbox One X enhanced site, along with all the other enhanced games. I'm not sure if there's a way to parse the site to just view enhanced 360 games.
Edit, here's the link: https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/xbox-one/xbox-one-x-enhanced-list
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Maybe they are doing them in order. Also there is that remaster of some of the others that might still be selling.
I actually liked AC 1. I'm happy to see it getting the enhanced treatment. I might even revisit the game one day to see how much this game has aged.
Absolutely amazing, this kind of improvement will definitely motivate me to get some stuff out of my last-gen backlog. I bought Fallout 3 specifically because it was announced to be X enhanced, no joke. Also don't forget that outside of the (so far) 7 specifically enhanced games, all 360 games get 16xAF and other magic, plus the obvious framerate boost in case it was unstable or it was unlocked, considering all the extra beef under the hood. Can't wait to try it out.
Wouldn't doubt it. There's a weird thing goin on with Xbox and AssCreed. I think besides Origins every game popped up for GWG once
while i have no interest in playing these old game, if i did this is certainly the way i would want it to be done. some of these improvements rival some of the lower tier "remasters" we've had this gen. Res and AF go a long way to making a game look better it seems.
Just me or did the framerate on X seem worse at points (eg when Altair gets up in the initial cutscene?)
Now that was a thing of beauty. To think that the 1X could be able to crack out that much out of a 360 game that is almost 10 years old and made it look like that. Hopefully we will get to see more examples in the future of how the 1X can powerup games from the past (although the real kicker would be if we see examples from the original xbox and see how it would look like if that were to ever happen).
That is correct. The games run unmodified. However, there are limitations based on how the game was originally built.
I don't know why increasing of games' resolution through emulation is supposed to be all that amazing? Emulators have been doing that for years and they don't have access to original game code. What is amazing though is the performance they are getting out of it.
I'm starting to become more excited about the life that the console breathes into much older games than the improvements it adds to new titles, which is absolutely insane.
My tweet meant that the game inherently has to have some features in it that make this kind of upgrade possible. We do not touch game code. What we CAN do with the emulator is fool the game code into thinking the console has different capabilities, essentially. So games that were authored in 10-bit color for instance, it was the 360 GPU that did the final pass conversion to display 8-bit color, and we eliminate that pass. For textures, if the engine was changing the textures used based on GPU load, they can fool the system into allowing the X1X GPU to render higher quality textures further into the distance.
Also - the games are not HDR per-se. In order for TV's to display the 10-bit colors they need to be in HDR mode, hence why you see the HDR prompt on these games. The wider color palette, combined with the inherent brightness of HDR displays, sort of gives the impression of HDR but they are not.
Regardless, the emulation team are geniuses. Glad you're enjoying the games.
Thanks for the clarification. It's a very impressive BC implementation.
I dunno, for me he's saying they can't apply to all games, because it requires the original code to behave in a specific way, not that they needed to mess with the code to enable that.
Edit: Beaten xD
Credit where credit is due, they are doing phenomenal work.
But I think you're putting too much weight in their forward planning.
If it was always their intention to have these games running on the One they would have at least mentioned it at launch if not had it implemented.
We'd be looking at different console sales right now if they had. While bc is not crazy important for sales overall it makes a big difference early in the gen.
This is some serious amazing shit.
Actually the 360 ran on PowerPC architecture, meaning they did change a fundamental part of their hardware design before going back to x86, which only makes the whole BC thing even more praiseworthy.
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