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My kids, 529s, retirement planning, paying down the mortgage early, etc will always come first, but I'd rather have a nice TV than a luxury car, for example. I'd rather have a nice bed too. All about priorities, I agree.
Haha, no I'm not even thinking about that. I'll definitly get newer tech, just hoping I'll be satisfied. But I'm not insanely picky. I've planned on OLED but might end up with a higher end TCL or Vizio just to be more practical - especially if we decide 70 is the right size.
I don't think you'll be happy going from a Panny Plasma to a budget LED. OLED or a high-end LED panel only.
He didn't phrase it like an opinion but you never know. He should definitely be asked about it.
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Yeah, but stated that was his actual opinion. Didn't sound like it here.
I'm aware, I just don't think it's actually possible for him to have definitive info on 2020 products in January 2019. No part of his history tells me he gets info to that degree.
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65" A8F for $2300 at BuyDig https://slickdeals.net/f/12563788-c...a8f-2299-until-3pm-est-free-s-h?src=frontpage
I bought my C8 from there and highly recommend them
Great point
I bought my C8 from there and highly recommend them
Great point
Yep.
Everyone is in different situations. For plenty of people (myself included) 500/yr for something I use hundreds of hours during the year is a pretty good deal.
For $599 I am completely pleased with the 55" TCL 6 series. I read everything I could about it's + and - and decided to give it a go. It's well within the budget and I am not noticing any of the "issues" others mentioned.
I went with recommended settings from online sources and adjusted others through the App. Games look great and not lagging. I also didn't notice any blur when watching fast paced NBA games.
Happy so far for the price.
I went with recommended settings from online sources and adjusted others through the App. Games look great and not lagging. I also didn't notice any blur when watching fast paced NBA games.
Happy so far for the price.
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I know so many people that say "I'm not spending $1000 on a TV" and then they watch 5 hours a day.
If it's a money issue it's completely understandable, but if you have the money and will spend that much time with it, it's more of an investment than a luxury.
I know so many people that say "I'm not spending $1000 on a TV" and then they watch 5 hours a day.
If it's a money issue it's completely understandable, but if you have the money and will spend that much time with it, it's more of an investment than a luxury.
Been looking for a new TV for some time. Last week I tried a Samsung NU7400 but it was an IPS panel and had terrible backlight bleed all along the top so it went back and I got a refund.
The only other option I'm looking at is the Sony XF900. Does anyone have that and is it a good buy?
The only other option I'm looking at is the Sony XF900. Does anyone have that and is it a good buy?
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I have two buddies with X900Fs and they both love their sets. Sony processing is second to none, and in my time spent with their TVs I have been impressed.
Don't get rid of the plasma if you have another room to keep it in. I kept mine for 1080p games that I don't play on my desktop PC, and I'm glad that I did. As far as feeling like you not having a set that looks as good as your plasma though? Nah. Once you go OLED, the plasma stops looking as good as it once did by comparison. With 1080p and above video content anyway. 720p is going to look like garbage compared to how it would look on the plasma, and most video games need to be at a resolution of at least 1440p to look better on an OLED than they do at 1080p on a plasma. Once you get used to the size as well, it's a lot harder to go back to smaller screens (without sitting closer).
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I would be perfectly fine with 2021 but definitely think that buying a C8 (or a C9) is a safe bet anyway -- given the uncertainty of tech
LG confirmed they were prepping for mass production 2 years ago.
The top emmission sets are starting production this year for 8K displays, where it is required more in order to keep peak brightness at a higher level (more pixels = less light)
When they do, this will also decrease the cost of the larger displays, where they currently take a big hit.
A 65inch panel costs twice as much as the 55inch equivelant using the current production procresses
Moving to the new production processes narrows the gap meaning there is only a 1.5x increase in cost.
There will be $1200 deals on a 55 C8 soon enough. If I was coming from a plasma that's probably what I'd go with. It will take probably 2 years for a C9 to hit that price. Imo 65 in general is too much of a pita to move around. Had a 65 before and I'm honestly completely happy with my 55 B7.
Going in on new tech in year 1 would have been a bad idea anyways. If you're really in the market for a new OLED just get a current model (once confirmation is there that the HDMI 2.1 implementation is truly feature complete) and then a nice big top emissive OLED in a couple years once the reduced manufacturing cost savings set in and we've had a year or two of refinements on those panels.
Thanks for asking Bumrush.
Lol. Same probably.
After reviews and 2.1 feature testing of course.
Lol. Same probably.
After reviews and 2.1 feature testing of course.
I would just get the cheapest C8/B8 you can find now if you really need a TV right now or just wait a year for the C9 to get the same deals.
Hoping someone might be able to guide me in the right direction with HDR.
I've noticed with some games lately that my blacks look more "true" when HDR is disabled. For example:
Games like Spyro and Tales of Vesperia (non-HDR) have deeper colors and true blacks. Then when I boot up something like Black Ops 4 (HDR enabled) the blacks get a little brighter and they are closer to gray. It's most noticeable in the menus.
I understand there is a very different art style between these games (cartoony vs realistic) but I'm really noticing it during the menu screens/loading. Non HDR games I see a true black while the HDR games have a bit of a brighter gray to to them, almost as if a very thin film of light has been layered over the screen.
Is that normal, or is something wrong with my settings? I have my PS4 Pro set to Limited and my B8 black level on Low.
I've noticed with some games lately that my blacks look more "true" when HDR is disabled. For example:
Games like Spyro and Tales of Vesperia (non-HDR) have deeper colors and true blacks. Then when I boot up something like Black Ops 4 (HDR enabled) the blacks get a little brighter and they are closer to gray. It's most noticeable in the menus.
I understand there is a very different art style between these games (cartoony vs realistic) but I'm really noticing it during the menu screens/loading. Non HDR games I see a true black while the HDR games have a bit of a brighter gray to to them, almost as if a very thin film of light has been layered over the screen.
Is that normal, or is something wrong with my settings? I have my PS4 Pro set to Limited and my B8 black level on Low.
Yeah, I had seen that earlier in the thread--the bit about the Samsung QLEDs only having a window of 48-60--and assumed that's what people were referencing. It's a bit moot now that I ended up buying that E8 anyways.
I tried to upgrade a 2009 Panasonic 65" S1 this year. It was the worst year for the rising black levels (MLL was ~0.006fL when new, they had tripled to ~0.018fL last time I measured). There was one good thing about the '09 panels though, they would go bright as fuck by plasma standards. Mine has always been in a well lit den and I run it at 190nits / 55fL (10% windowed white peak) and that's not even close to the brightest it will go. IIRC maxed out it reaches ~90fL (~300 nits). Subsequent model years absolutely cratered the peak light output thanks to energy star requirements, a 2012 60" U50 I have will only reach 43fL (~143nits) absolutely maxed out, even the RGB gains are taken as high as they'll go in the service menu to still achieve a balanced D65. The S1 is not a primary display so I just wanted large screen budget 4K, the 70" Vizio E seemed a favorite. The overall image quality of the LCD was a massive step down, I returned it after a few day evaluation and put back up the plasma. This really surprised me cause the risen plasma has a native ANSI CR of ~3000:1. The LCD even without it's very limited local dimming is nearly 2x better, but it still looked much more washed out (even viewed straight on), far less perceived contrast and punch than the plasma. I am curious if the budget king P-series and 6-series fare any better. Returning 65"+ TV's is too much of a hassle for me to roll anymore dice however.
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Yeah, plus it's always on standby so it's doing the refresh after each viewing too (or whenever it's supposed to). I probably wouldn't notice it as much if the bars weren't right at the top of the screen where most games' skyboxes and stuff are, so I see big rectangles across the sky while playing Red Dead Redemption 2.
That new Samsung and Sony Z9G look great. Might go Sony, since IIRC they actually let you turn off local dimming, something Samsung doesn't allow outside of the service menu. Local dimming isn't something I necessarily need, especially if it causes crushed details or blooming. I'd rather have grey blacks.
No way in hell I'd even think about buying a new tv until at least September/October though. TVs at release are just insanely overpriced.
Please dont buy at launch. 55'' and 65'' will be 1000 bucks less on Black Friday.
Vizio E series is a budget display. Not really a good comparison. Might have fared better with a Sony FALD like the 930e or 900f.
So my initial plan was to buy the LG OLED55C7V, but its nowhere to be found now since it's an outgoing model. Someone snapped up the last one in front of me.
So now my eyes are turned to the 2018 model LG OLED55C8PLAAEN
Anyone here have a opinion on it? Im a little bit frustrated cause it seems like the difference is minimal, and I could've bought 2017 version for cheaper money.
So now my eyes are turned to the 2018 model LG OLED55C8PLAAEN
Anyone here have a opinion on it? Im a little bit frustrated cause it seems like the difference is minimal, and I could've bought 2017 version for cheaper money.
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What's your use case? The C8 has brighter game mode than the C7 and better upscaling of sub-HD content as well
Gaming and watching movies/tv would be my use case. Now I don't own any of the 4K capable consoles though, only a base ps4.
the C8 handles HDR games better (too dim on the C7 without metadata injection), I wouldn't choose a C7 over it for that reason.
the C8 launched at $1000 less than the C7, so maybe it won't be as expensive this time
I think it will be. HDMI 2.1 will give them a reason to keep/raise the price.
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I think LG might surprise everyone with an aggressive price.
I'm curious as hell to see whether Samsung includes HDMI 2.1 in their 2019 4K QLED sets. I guess they didn't include that in the 8K sets right? That should probably be my sign, but I'm going to hold out hope anyway.
I appreciate all of you guys input and advice. I've also learned that the B8 version is cheaper and using the last years A7 processor, and Im not in need of the latest specs so Im thinking between the B8 and C8 as of now.