Tried Warm 1 and its still a little bit red. There has to be a setting to make the white balance a little bit less red.
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I need to unsub from this thread lol, I've been pining for a new TV even though my current one is fine and my budget is relatively small and good cheap TVs apparently don't exist in the UK
I'm fairly certain that there's no technical reason that Samsung couldn't release a new One Connect box with a feature like HDMI 2.1. They did it before with the "evolution kit" for certain 2013-15 TV's.
Thanks for looking into it. Weird LG would display OLED light at 50 instead of 100 in Dolby Vision.
Just some general advice here, never buy a TV based on hopes or promises of future updates. This is an area where all television manufacturers underdeliver and are not held accountable by the softball media that covers this hobby.
If you want a TV that supports X and Y features, make sure it's in the box when you buy it.
thanks, appreciate the insight
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https://www.resetera.com/threads/audio-era-because-sound-matters.7045/page-28#post-16876915
It's not incredibly active but the folks that frequent that thread are incredibly knowledgeable and helpful.
Finally done with my UHD/Blu-ray discs backlog.
"Let's see how big my iTunes backlog of movies is like"
Jesus christ lol, I bought a fuck ton more movies than I've realized. Its great tho, even rewatching movies on OLED feels like watching something new again because of how much better it looks.
"Let's see how big my iTunes backlog of movies is like"
Jesus christ lol, I bought a fuck ton more movies than I've realized. Its great tho, even rewatching movies on OLED feels like watching something new again because of how much better it looks.
The One Connect cable has a bandwidth of 75gbps according to the product page, while hdmi 2.1 spec is 48gbps. So it is technically possible, based on the I/O of the tvs.
That said, Q9FN (2018 QLED) already supports eARC and VRR. So the current One Connect box is probably sufficient for HDMI 2.1 features. The Q9FN can't do 4k at 120fps, but that is probably a limitation of the panel technology (not something that can be fixed with HDMI).
That said, you don't need to support every feature to be 2.1 certified, and indeed 4k tvs by definition don't do 8k 60fps. So 4k 2019 QLEDs will probably be 2.1 certified, even if they don't upgrade the features from the 2018 models.
You also have to consider that features, like Dynamic HDR, are subjective. It is really the chipset that does this kind of video processing. The I/O is more incidental, and in that respect HDMI 2.1 is nothing but marketing.
8k tvs will (likely) support every 2.1 feature, because they're going to be so expensive, but that doesn't mean they will have the best picture quality. You still have to look at each tv on a case by case basis.
https://www.samsung.com/uk/tv-accessories/optical-cable/
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This is incredibly helpful - the only two features of 2.1 I need are actually VRR & eARC. Does the 2018 QF8N also support them or just the 9?
Also, anyone hear any word if the 9 successor will come in 55" in America?
Thanks!
I wouldn't get the 2018 Samsung LCDs at this point, just wait a bit more for the 2019 sets and see how they all review, tons of new options this year.
Even the input lag on the 2019 Samsungs will be lower, so that alone should be reason enough to wait.
And the VRR on the 2018s is severely limited to 48-60 fps in 4k, which would only help with a handful of Xbox One X games. (a bit more useful on PC)
Oh I'm 100% waiting on 2019 sets, just trying to get a sense of where 2018 was.
What is the frame caps for VRR on "true" HDMI 2.1?
Isn't it the opposite? I would wait for 2019 models if you're a hardcore PC gamer, and like to run games at 4k above 60fps. Console games are likely never going to go beyond 60. I mean, maybe. But it doesn't seem plausible. If I was a console gamer, and dead set on a QLED, I would consider waiting and buying the 2018 Q9 used later in the year.
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To my understanding, 120Hz is the limit. Though maybe I'm not understanding your question. Does VRR have a "limit" so to say independent of your TV's refresh rate?
You dont understand. It's cold enough, but red. I just want to experiment a little bit and see how the white balance looks when I lower the reds. But I dont know how I can lower the reds in the white balance menu.
i agree - drops from 50-60 is a nice sweet spot for my 1X
i have a gaming pc but it has it's own dedicated monitor and i don't hook it up to the TV
right now i'm waiting for march samsung event with eyes on the 2019 q8fn 55" but we'll see how sony's x900f follow up looks. if no good 4k vrr / earc lcd tv comes out this year, i may have to wait til 2020 :(
yeah, VRR can sync your GPU output to the TV rate if the frames are between X & Y frames per second
Sorry gonna repost for new page. Is there an industry standard for colour temperature for games? In film industry I think it's warm 2. I see for rtings settings for lg c8 they recommend W40 for gaming, is that what I should use? Even though I have everything else at default settings I dunno if w40 is only recommended if you change all your settings to what they have.
I have it at 0 and it looks pretty good, both extremes of warm 40 and cold 40 looked off to me personally.
I have it at 0 and it looks pretty good, both extremes of warm 40 and cold 40 looked off to me personally.
Is HDMi 2.1 going to have the full range of 30 fps to 120fps for VRR? Or am I just assuming it will? If you have the full range of 30 to 120 fps I would wait on hdmi 2.1 vrr for this alone. Even if you have to wait until 2020 for hdmi 2.1 devices to hook up to your tv at least you are set for the future.
Whatever is closest to 6500k, which usually is the warm or warm 2 setting.
Games are developed in the srgb color space which specifies a color temp of 6500k.
I just ordered an LG OLED65C8 for a great price of CHF/USD2100 here in Switzerland, can't wait!
I'd like to wall mount again, what's regarded as the easiest, best and flattest to the wall mount solution?
I'd like to wall mount again, what's regarded as the easiest, best and flattest to the wall mount solution?
Ok thanks! I'll put it to warm 40 for a few days and see if I get use to it. Appreciate it!
Given the MS/Samsung partnership in Auto-LL and VRR, I'd say it's all but guaranteed HDMI 2.1, VRR, and 120Hz are going to be prominent marketing bullet points with the next consoles. I wouldn't even be shocked to see MS specifically shipping at least their premium SKU with a Display Port output as there is no longer any pretense, Xbox's official messaging is that it's an HTPC. Much like Pro and X titles currently have high resolution OR high frame rate toggles in the menus, that is where you will see 120Hz support if nowhere else. I don't expect many AAAA games to be running in 4K/120, but it's certainly plausible you may see titles like CoD or BF that prioritize frame rate running unlocked at 75Hz-90Hz and relying on VRR. High frame rates are absolutely going to be a signifiant focus next-gen.
Tried out setting Module HDR to On (LG C7) and cant see any difference at all in hdr mode. Only in SDR does it seem to make a difference. It looks to me like normal mode is actually the equivelent to an auto setting were with an SDR signal it is off and it switches to on with a HDR signal.
Marketing bullet points, but not necessarily materially valuable to most people. I mean, I think developers would have to include a 1080p mode to hit 120fps anyway, in which case the current Q9FN would function just fine. I also think HDMI 2.1 actually has a higher bandwidth than the current Display Port standards, so I don't know about that theory. I can imagine high frame rate I/O being used for VR games more than anything.
I used them last time with my Plasma but read some reports that the thin ones didn't work perfectly with the C8.
thanks - it would be a bummer if only LG OLEDs & 8K tvs were the only 2.1s that came out this year
i hate to bring up burn in again, but the C9 won't leave my list of potentials
my wife leaves DVR stuff on pause often
my father in law watches a lot of CNN
i'm not gonna be around to adjust their usage or convince them to do anything different
is an OLED still appropriate for my use case? or do i just need to wait until i'm in a position to make a dedicated mancave / home theatre set up VS what will be a general living room TV?
i'd prefer to keep a TV going for 10 years
my wife leaves DVR stuff on pause often
my father in law watches a lot of CNN
i'm not gonna be around to adjust their usage or convince them to do anything different
is an OLED still appropriate for my use case? or do i just need to wait until i'm in a position to make a dedicated mancave / home theatre set up VS what will be a general living room TV?
i'd prefer to keep a TV going for 10 years
That is inaccurate. The Q9FN DOES NOT Support eARC. I have a Q9FN and I wish it did. I want to use VRR but also have my 7.2.2 Audio System running, but you cannot do this at this time due to them not supporting eARC. If I want to use Freesync/VRR I need to connect direct to the One Connect box, but then my audio is limited since it does not pass Atmos or any other higher end audio. I hope they do have eARC soon, but then again, I am now really looking into the 77" C9 or 65" E9 as my 2019 set so it may be a mute point. Will wait for reviews on them and more details about the VRR on the LG and HDR Nits output and some of the other gaming related features of the new LG's. This will also give Samsung some time to release more info on the Q9FN 2019 model and it's features. But right now the 2019 LG is the front runner for me.
The purpose of Display Port would be "backwards compatibility" with the 10's of millions of Freesync 75-165hz+ monitors in circulation (and their ultra low cost going forward). Additionally, greater than 60Hz wouldn't be limited to 1080p, you would much more likely be talking about 1440p (native for monitors, scaled to 4K on TV's) or some interstitial checkerboard resolution, both of which from the televisions perspective and a bandwidth perspective, would require more than HDMI 2.0's 18Gbps.
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Its a real shame, but I think you are better off getting one of the new LCDs coming out :(
The main problem is your father in law using CNN a lot and you having no control of it. I pause my DVR shows a lot too, and as long as its not for prolonged periods of time that should be fine, its the CNN that would be the problem in your case.
That is an amazing price. For a new item of course.
How much is the C8? If its also very cheap, go for that one (faster processor, but everything else is pretty much the same)
That's a reason to have it, but not necessarily a marketable one. I mean you can always use more ports.
UK prices on current sets are creeping up (maybe due to the ever weakening pound?) so the thought of what these new sets will launch at, post-Brexit, is making me wake up in cold sweats at night. Should have bought a cheap one on Black Friday!
Thanks for clarifying. How is the Samsung w/ HDR movies? One thing I would think to prefer in a Sony vs. Samsung is Dolby Vision, as most of my movies are iTunes DV 4K.
Thanks, this is what I was leaning towards as well.
Oh well, still worth it instead of paying for a strange to watch my baby.
For what its worth, the stuck pixel has becometh unstucketh.
Yay.
https://www.lg.com/us/compare/compare.lg?category=/us/tvs
Largest difference is the processor it looks like from the site. But if you are looking at having this tv for a long time I would probably wait a half year until the 19' models have dropped with HDMI 2.1 and those prices hopefully start to drop a few more months the after release.
Largest difference is the processor it looks like from the site. But if you are looking at having this tv for a long time I would probably wait a half year until the 19' models have dropped with HDMI 2.1 and those prices hopefully start to drop a few more months the after release.
Fuck. Yes. All. Day. Fuck. Yes.
Assuming this all translates, totally getting a new OLED this year.
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2019-nvidia-freesync-support-tested
Assuming this all translates, totally getting a new OLED this year.
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2019-nvidia-freesync-support-tested