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Interesting. Are they interviewing people who work at the Vatican or something? Curious about this.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo1IwmaUz90
(I'd like to imagine Ross Coulthart's first interview with ET going like this lol)
Like others have said it would be insane for such secrets to have been kept under wraps successfully for decades.
Also why is it that alien conspiracies to such an extent America focused. Sure I know they are a superpower but come on. The purported aliens can't be just into America right?
Do we know if there be more hearings of this?
Also why is it that alien conspiracies to such an extent America focused. Sure I know they are a superpower but come on. The purported aliens can't be just into America right?
Do we know if there be more hearings of this?
Supposed tapes and data on Varinha that were promised to be coming soon have all proved to be fake.
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Something that's been mentioned a few times was that you could always tell America was hiding technology because all of a sudden they'd get really quiet about it.
Other countries suspected we had atomic bombs because we suddenly stopped releasing scientific papers about them. Supposedly it happened multiple times afterwards where we suddenly got really quiet about high altitude supersonic planes and stealth technology among other things.
I've always wondered why we poured so many resources and so much energy into the space race, got to the moon, and then just STOPPED.
Like yeah, we won, and the Soviet Union fell apart, but that didn't mean that we had to let our space program atrophy for 30-60 years.
I've always wondered if there were other reasons why we stopped prioritizing space, at least publicly.
Other countries suspected we had atomic bombs because we suddenly stopped releasing scientific papers about them. Supposedly it happened multiple times afterwards where we suddenly got really quiet about high altitude supersonic planes and stealth technology among other things.
I've always wondered why we poured so many resources and so much energy into the space race, got to the moon, and then just STOPPED.
Like yeah, we won, and the Soviet Union fell apart, but that didn't mean that we had to let our space program atrophy for 30-60 years.
I've always wondered if there were other reasons why we stopped prioritizing space, at least publicly.
But it's not just America focused. There's reported sightings all over the world. Brazil in particular has had a couple of compelling and interesting cases.
And it's hard to definitively say whether it has all been kept under wraps or not. Many, many people have been talking for decades, but nothing has ever been super verified that we're aware of. It's just listening to people talk, engaging with their stories of experiences and allegedly working on craft and seeing bodies, etc. etc.
But with everything happening in the past few weeks, it just feels different. Like we may finally be on the verge of getting some cold hard truths or learning it's all been lies. Or a little bit of both. It's a very compelling and interesting time and all we can really do is wait and see what happens in the days, weeks, and months ahead.
On another note… this has been on mind lately. The private companies and so forth that allegedly have the UAPs and potential NHIs in their possession were given a 6 month (I believe it was 6 months?) to come forward with what they have/know but… what exactly happens at the end of the 6 months if they haven't done so? Grusch has given names, locations, etc., so would the government then go knocking on doors and demand to turn everything they allegedly have over if they don't comply?
Just because chuck Schumer is interested doesn't mean its credible.
I agree, it hasn't been verified but we'll see.
I doubt it will be though
China or Russia. The latter have already done damage to our trust in the government and medicine so this looks to be next. For people to openly want to kill government members based on decades old hearsay is wild.
But this is what happens when we don't teach skepticism or science.
Now the only things folks are skeptical about are things that confirm biases.
I mean the IG has seen his evidence and also interviewed witnesses in the program that verify what Grusch said. That's why the IG deemed it "urgent & credible". Not to mention, McCullough, who is a former IG, is Grusch's personal lawyer.
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JFC those are large if this is real footage and not doctored in any way. But I see 3 Tic Tacs in the video not 2?
Makes sense it wasn't a typical camera. Closely looking at the photo, it still looks like a reflection to me. There seem to be other things "reflecting" around it with less light hitting them.
In our day and age, any video not released by official/recognized sources can be fake and even if real, be dismissed as fake. This could be an extremely well done fake video (really impressive!).
It's also fun to speculate on the chance of it being actually real. Those things are absolutely massive. There are no crafts or even buildings the size of those things. Their shape seems synonymous with the tictacs. Their movement/speed is also similar to what is described and shown on officially released footage. If those things are real, humanity is done for.
Finally...I posted this in another thread, but the "built like insect" line had me thinking, maybe they're evolved insects?
I mean, this story I found had this guy getting abducted and visited by Praying Mantis aliens who told them that golbal warming is a problem and that we are violent. Take all this with a grain of salt, but maybe global warming is the reason there is more activity.
This thread caused me to discover Bob Lazar. Was super interesting when he was sketching the power source as well as gravity manipulation for the news crew.
One of the many people I do not trust is Bob Lazar. Another name you will probably run into is Steven Greer who I also would avoid. But, that is just my personal opinion.
Steven Greer is such an obvious grifter he is almost a walking parody at this point. Might as well believe Marshall Applewhite.
There a couple of threads dedicated on exposing Greer in Reddit that are absolutely worth a read. The UFO/UAP "scene" is marred by some names looking for attention/money/both.
It's always good to bear in mind not to get caught up in confirmation bias, this is coming from someone who belivies *tm
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Has the Magè incident been discussed in here yet. Watched this video last night and found it pretty interesting.
View: https://youtu.be/MmBniAE4y8E
If you just want footage without all the commentary there's this, but its not in chronological order
View: https://youtu.be/UX4rxt2RWcA
View: https://youtu.be/MmBniAE4y8E
If you just want footage without all the commentary there's this, but its not in chronological order
View: https://youtu.be/UX4rxt2RWcA
Yep. There are A LOT of people in the UFO/UAP scene that I simply do not trust. I used to go down that rabbit hole bad when I was in High School until I spent a lot of time researching and came to the conclusion most people in that scene are BS.
Yep! Was covered a couple pages back. Very interesting stuff. That was a heck of a lot of fire power it seemed like to take them down, plus all of the other stuff that came afterwards.
This video is very misleading, most of the clips shown are un-related and explained, like the drone formation, sky divers at night etc. There's a good thread on reddit if you search for mage ufo reddit.
On reddit, they said the artillery footage was from Israel. Pretty disappointing that Youtuber didn't do a better job of sourcing and verifying the footage.
Same. It's entertaining to read the stories watch the documentaries, but I don't believe any of the Lazar stuff.
Well if that's the case, then that's disappointing. Hopefully the non-footage stuff is still good though as it's quite the compelling story. But who knows 🤷🏻♂️
And for everyone talking about Bob Lazar and Greer, is this a matter of the stuff they claim being confirmed as legitimately fake, or just stuff that sounds "outlandish" and people choosing not to believe them?
Lots of issues with Lazar, mainly his education records. Greer is a grifter because you have to pay thousands of dollars for his fake CE5 bs.
That doesn't mean aliens. Additionally with the missing funds totalling 400B, I can see many non alien outcomes that are urgent and credible.
Okay, you can say it's aliens or not till you're blue in the face. This is all speculation until the investigation is completed.
If the secrets are as claimed, I don't think a real investigation will ever be completed.
Guess we'll see won't we? I'm not as pessimistic as you. I just want this to be ended once and for all so we can all move on
Three of the most discussed UAP events debunked within a few posts - color me shocked. Hopefully we can also debunk the "mantis people" and "aliens harvesting humans to repopulate earth" stories which were mentioned earlier. Totally not conspiracies, by the way.
Three of the most discussed UAP events debunked within a few posts - color me shocked. Hopefully we can also debunk the "mantis people" and "aliens harvesting humans to repopulate earth" stories which were mentioned earlier. Totally not conspiracies, by the way.
I find it very odd to hang out in a UFO OT and then complain about conspiracies when the whole subject of UFOs are inherently a conspiracy theory. Surely you have better things to do.
This is a 80+ year old psyop, you reckon? Even if that were the case, it doesn't explain what the UFOs/UAPs actually are. Do you think China or Russia currently possess this technology?
If you're referring to the footage with white smoke and gun noises, it's very much in Brazil, as people are speaking Brazilian Portuguese on the background.
Btw it's spelled "Varginha", "nh" for us has the same sound as "ñ" in Spanish. And yes, it sounds just as funny for us and it was extensively joked about during the time the events happened.
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Michio Kaku always has my interest, and this interview is no exception. There's audio in case you want to listen instead.
www.newsweek.com
Michio goes into how Planck Energy works and how it could be conceivable for a species that is millions of year more advanced than Humanity.
The truth about UFOs with Michio Kaku
Aliens could theoretically "boil space and hop right through" in order to visit Earth from faraway stars.
www.newsweek.com
Michio goes into how Planck Energy works and how it could be conceivable for a species that is millions of year more advanced than Humanity.
I'm not sure about Greer and things being proven to be false, but I can't take someone seriously who claims Marilyn Monroe was murdered because she found out about aliens.
I do not think "this" is an 80 year psy-op.
"This" is just a series or events "yall" are trying to lump into a continuous history.
No, I do not think Russia or China possess anything at all. I think they're interested in figuring out our tech and the masses (ufo-believers) are being socially engineered to cause our government to expose our defense secrets under the guise of finding E.T.
When the Titan imploded it came out that the us military knew it happened but chose to delay saying anything so as not to reveal how/where/why they knew. Even giving the time they found out could alert enemies to the medium or technology used.
It is highly likely that this UAP stuff is a similar case. It's best that they don't confirm anything with anyone and let "yall" think its E.T.
Problem is, our country's trust in the government has been so eroded that we now have people asking for the death penalty for hiding ufos.
So here we are getting ready to publish information about flights and ships and locations and potentially exposing different surveillance systems.
I feel that this is unfair and unhelpful and a tad disingenuous.
Talking about UFOs does not automatically mean we must talk about conspiracy.
We could postulate almost every theory about the entities and their methods of travel and communication and not mention a single cover-up or the dubious "they don't want you to know".
Additionally, the hot topic has been about the government conference where non NHI alternative theories were offered(private military contracts gone awry). It is entirely reasonable to discuss that tangent as much as the more "exotic" ones given that it not only would undo them but is also the most probable.
I mean there is a disclaimer in the OP which has been usefull for maybe at best a day or two before things went back to something it wasn't supposed to.
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So, I am going to say this again:
Enough with the hoaxes, enough with the random youtube channels, enough with the blogs by internet randos.
If you don't have an actual source, one that does actual reporting, don't post it.
If you guys can't keep to this we're going to be forced to lock the thread.
Consider this the final warning. Threadbans have been issued in the last two pages to give you guys an idea of what is and what is not acceptable sourcing. Random blogs and YouTube channels are not it.
Enough with the hoaxes, enough with the random youtube channels, enough with the blogs by internet randos.
If you don't have an actual source, one that does actual reporting, don't post it.
If you guys can't keep to this we're going to be forced to lock the thread.
Consider this the final warning. Threadbans have been issued in the last two pages to give you guys an idea of what is and what is not acceptable sourcing. Random blogs and YouTube channels are not it.
That is NOT how the burden of proof works. Even if the military saw these objects they are under no responsibility to suddenly have to explain them.
Additionally, how do we know these things are extraterrestrial and not "super"-terrestrial? How do we know its not some as of yet unknown sentient species that has eluded us but is also and earthling?
We have tribes of uncontacted people on this planet alone so what if we are that but to some more advanced earthling that never left this planet?
How do we jump across the universe for UAP when we can't even finish exploring the ocean, which is vastly larger than our land we walk on?
How do we know there isn't some advanced Atlantis with all of this stuff?
I don't believe anything I said is "true" but even without leaving this earth we already have a wealth of unknown unknowns before we should even think about Skrulls and Reapers.
Michio Kaku always has my interest, and this interview is no exception. There's audio in case you want to listen instead.
The truth about UFOs with Michio Kaku
Aliens could theoretically "boil space and hop right through" in order to visit Earth from faraway stars.
Michio goes into how Planck Energy works and how it could be conceivable for a species that is millions of year more advanced than Humanity.
thanks for this. he shares my opinion as far as immediate dismissal of "aliens visiting" as i do. some people lump that notion in with alien reptile skin walkers amongst us and things like that. imo, it's more high level and almost philosophical, where a better question would be: why would a species stop exploring or expanding? humans wouldn't. the age of the universe alone opens infinite possibilities as far as what technological level a species would get to without mass interruption/regression or extinction.
a morgan freeman narrated special ala his space/universe stuff would be great.
Alright. Even if that is the case, it doesn't explain sightings observed in the rest of the world, including China and Russia?
