Yeah, I read up on this because I was unfamiliar. Makes it twice as fucked
UK: London police violently disrupt peaceful vigil for murder victim Sarah Everard
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it's worse with fascist tories in charge sure, but the Met is rotten to its core, regardless of who is in government. Easily Britain's most corrupt organisation and its most violent gang. Its problems are institutional. When Cressida Dick murdered de Menzes it was during a Labour government. Fuck all of them and tear it down.
She's a terf, she can fuck off as well
Definitely, the met are rotten to the core. I would say that the UK police in their totality is corrupt as fuck when you take into account Hillsborough and the shit that took place in NI with the RUC.
The last Labour government were pretty socially conservative on the whole, when you look at the absolute ghouls they appointed as home sec.
Yeah the force in general is grim, just the Met seems to really harbour the worst of them, who always emerge during protests - remembering their gleeful violence during the 2010 student protests. Wasn't that long ago they charged cavalry into the BLM protest.
New Labour definitely full of ghouls, was more wanting to point out that this isn't a new problem that can be sorted democratically (as some others seem to consider), which is why the police are so brazen here. Completely unaccountable. That only 34 Labour MPs voted against the Spycops bill is frankly disgusting. The rest of the PLP can get in the sea.
The same outcome happens regardless. Only for one Labour did the bare minimum, and for the other they stand by and let the Tories pass it without even taking all of the blame for doing so.
One of the main reasons that Starmer has been so awful is that Labour are repeatedly doing the latter. He is the shrug emoji in a suit.
I don't think it can be sorted through electoral means either, sorry if I gave that impression. My point was more that the police are merely an extension of the government, which in turn serves the interests of the rich and powerful. The government does not serve the average person, which some people believe is the case.
Say Their Names: 12 Victims of Police and State Brutality in the UK
Black people in the US aren't the only ones subjected to violence from the state – it happens in Britain, too.
www.vice.com
Yeah, I just walked past Sainsbury's and saw that.
What would they read if Meghan attended?
"MEGHAN MAKES IT ALL ABOUT HER AGAIN: Claims "She knows what it's like"...BUT DOES SHE!?"
Then a little section like "Mournful Kate Respectful As Always"
..."ACAB" originated in england with the C usually standing for "coppers"
If Labour abstain from voting on a bill then there's a maximum of 439 voting members of the House of Commons (since the speaker and deputies don't vote, and Sinn Féin don't take their seats). Defeating a bill therefore would take 220 MPs to vote against. Of the 439 voting members in that scenario, 363 are Conservatives and only 76 aren't. For a bill to fail with Labour abstaining, no fewer than 144 Conservative MPs would have to rebel against the government.
The mathematics of abstaining in the hopes of Conservatives voting against just don't work out. If Labour want a bill to fail, they need to vote against it. That's not going to work very often, but abstaining won't work either.
People are under the impression that you can get conservative MPs to change their minds and abstain/vote against pieces of legislation, with reasoned debates and arguments.
The truth is that most Tory MPs are cunts and want to climb the greasy poll so won't rock the boat and the whips have plenty of dirt on these MPs if they do decide to rebel.
The truth is that most Tory MPs are cunts and want to climb the greasy poll so won't rock the boat and the whips have plenty of dirt on these MPs if they do decide to rebel.
Don’t forget Orgreave and the miners strikes.
As a Yorkshireman the idea of voting Conservative or siding with the Met on this, as many of my county compatriots have done and no doubt are doing today, makes me feel sick to my stomach.
This is literally one of the worst things I’ve ever read here, which says a lot given the utter trash that gets posted on this forum. It can’t possibly be that Kate has experienced sexism on her life, has experienced harassment and God knows what else, and feels empathy and sadness for a woman who’s been brutally murdered. No, it’s clearly a conspiracy and a PR stunt.
If she stays or goes, it's not going to matter. The police is a corrupt and bigoted institution, sacking one person isn't going to make a difference, except to make a few people feel better.
Dick will no doubt be given a peerage later on and be comfortable for the rest of her life.
Yep, there are loads of incidents that I've missed. The cops and Tories are complete scum.
I could be wrong here, but I believe the poster is criticising the newspapers rather than Kate Middleton herself.
Misogyny and sexism effects all aspects of society, you shouldn’t downplay or question someone’s experience and motivation just because you don’t like them.
this is the thing.
can’t say they’re “just doing their job” when we can plainly witness them pick and choose.
She and her family sit on top of a Scrooge McDuck sized pile of wealth stolen, violently, from people around the world, including plenty of women. And they do it proudly. I’ll take Kate Middleton’s plight seriously the minute she publicly rejects the monarchy.
To be fair if either or both of them go its not going to make any difference but Labour are targeting ex-Labour voters who voted Tory in 2019.
Problem is, the vote change from 2017 to 2019 was mostly down to people staying home instead of going to vote.
If she was going to pay her respects she would have worn a mask like literally every other person there, but she didn't because she went for a photo op. Like, the myriad of front pages devoted to her should have made that pretty obvious.
Really shows how disgusting of a women Jess Philip's really is.
I understand that, but do they really think that the same people that have voted leave, the same people that put this clown in charge now, the same that are racist, homophobic and transphobic and despise anything that even smells like labour, they will somehow change their mind because Starmer is... doing fuck all?
Surely they have people that understand these dynamics more than me and I wish them well: I am not entirely sure I'll be up for voting Tory light though.
Starmer's head of policy is Claire Ainsley, who believes that Labour need to fight on cultural issues and appeal to people who are culturally working class, i.e. not from London, white, cis and het.
Here's an intro into their thinking
What you need to know about Claire Ainsley, Labour's answer to Dominic Cummings
If you want to understand Labour's new direction under Sir Keir Starmer, you need to understand his new policy chief. - Politics
www.thelondoneconomic.com
Issues with polling is that they used the ABC1C2DE categories, which are a load of shit because C2DE are considered working class but a pensioner landlord falls in there. While someone fresh out of uni, who works in a call centre and renting their home can fall into ABC1, which is considered to be upper middle class and above.
Well, about that...
The idea that sexism and harassment is a universal problem for women, but it’s cool to dismiss Kate because she’s a Royal and as such can’t possibly have experienced harassment or sexism, is inherently disturbing. And, rather aptly, is incredibly sexist at the same time.
Sarah Everard: What went wrong at the Clapham vigil?
Maintaining public order at protests is one of the hardest jobs in modern policing.
www.bbc.co.uk
" Patsy Stevenson, the red-haired woman caught on camera being handcuffed on the ground at the bandstand, received a £200 Covid fine as police tried to remove her from the area. She has not been accused of, or charged with, violence - but was there any elsewhere?
There was definitely a lot of anger - with some of the crowd chanting obscenities at the police at one point. And pictures obtained by the Press Association clearly show three instances of officers being forcibly shoved and a van's wing mirror being deliberately vandalised.
Guess what? All three instances involved men, not women."
Consent manufacture goes brrrrrr
Not to mention people pulled from Labour to the LDs in 2019 in large numbers (after a catastrophic 2017 election for them). Kind of bizarre that this, to my mind, has barely explored when the slightly larger Labour to Con shift has had tomes written about it in the last year.
Quite right, it's quite weird that the Labour to LD shift was not investigated and Starmer's initial bump in the polls was due to those people going Labour to LD going back to Labour.
Then again, the press need to push a narrative that Labour has lost the working class, in order that Labour never appoint someone with mild social democratic policies in the future.
Honestly didn’t expect this kind of bullshit here. Kinda shook but then what the fuck should I expect? Gross.
Cressida Dick should never have had a significant career in the police after John Charles de Menezes, never mind the top job. The fact that after doing something like this she isn't even close to getting the push is quite shocking and says a lot about the destruction of accountability that has happened in the past decade of Tory government.
Christ, the way the police responded, you'd say they were showing solidarity with the accused murderer over the victim.
Christ, the way the police responded, you'd say they were showing solidarity with the accused murderer over the victim.
The fact they seem incapable of getting it says it all. Everyone is telling them they fucked up, and they’re doubling down. That sort of rank, arch ignorance is very, very telling.