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US PoliERA 2018 |OT11| The Hunt for Blue November
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It's also easy to see 2 year house wins and forget that the Senate is stacked against us
I'm in CA, but I still have a pit in my stomach over these two despite the gains last night. And Kemp still potentially in office.
And this year was us on voting on steroids. Democracy in Texas is tragic. There are tons of Hispanics who have never voted or even registered. They just want to work hard and make a decent life but have no interest in voting to make that easier. Then there are all of the recent transplants who don't have any investment in the political system. The state makes it as hard as possible to get these people voting.
The rural/urban divide
Everyone's mentioned the five target seats in 2020 but I'd also say Georgia, Alaska and Montana have potential. Like a tier lower but there's no reason we shouldn't try, especially since very few of our incumbents are actually in danger.
Realigning to ZERO purple states and a rural/urban divide whereby states with enough major urban areas go blue, and states without those do not.
Which is a terrifying realignment, IMO, but it's where we've been going since the '60s.
EDIT: Beaten by AAaron.
Democratic incumbents couldn't hold on in red states in a Trump midterm, there's not much reason to think we can expand the map beyond those first 5 in 2020.The 2020 Senate Map:
Maine, NC, Iowa, Arizona, Colorado are doable.
Maaaaaybe Georgia and Louisiana.
Kansas just went crazy, so why not try?
WSJ: Pentagon Dropping Use of 'Faithful Patriot' as Name for Border Deployment
WASHINGTON—The Pentagon no longer will publicly refer to its border mission by the name "Operation Faithful Patriot," officials said Wednesday, dropping a moniker some saw as having political overtones tied to the midterm elections.
Troops instead are expected to call the deployment of nearly 8,000 active-duty troops along three border states by phrases such as "in support of Customs Border Protection," the officials said.
A determination about the name change, decided by Defense Secretary Jim Mattis's office, was issued on Election Day, the officials said. The Pentagon didn't immediately respond to a request seeking comment about the name change.
The Pentagon has rebuffed suggestions that the border troop mission, mentioned repeatedly by President Trump in campaign speeches about migrants and asylum seekers, is politically motivated. The name was drafted by the U.S. Northern Command, which is responsible for the continental U.S.
The officials, citing a possible reason for the name change, said the deployment isn't an "operation," like military missions involving combat, but is being undertaken in support of another government agency.
The effects of the name change were already in effect on the Defense Department media page, which began using the new phrase Tuesday afternoon in photos captions and videos.
Troops instead are expected to call the deployment of nearly 8,000 active-duty troops along three border states by phrases such as "in support of Customs Border Protection," the officials said.
A determination about the name change, decided by Defense Secretary Jim Mattis's office, was issued on Election Day, the officials said. The Pentagon didn't immediately respond to a request seeking comment about the name change.
The Pentagon has rebuffed suggestions that the border troop mission, mentioned repeatedly by President Trump in campaign speeches about migrants and asylum seekers, is politically motivated. The name was drafted by the U.S. Northern Command, which is responsible for the continental U.S.
The officials, citing a possible reason for the name change, said the deployment isn't an "operation," like military missions involving combat, but is being undertaken in support of another government agency.
The effects of the name change were already in effect on the Defense Department media page, which began using the new phrase Tuesday afternoon in photos captions and videos.
As an Ohioan, this doesn't make me feel better. I feel just as bad about Cordray losing as I did with Hillary losing. Fuck everything. I'm so depressed.
Same. So sick of us blue states (NJ) having to carry rural America only for them to spit in our faces.
Gillum still only 0.7% behind. I think he conceded too quickly, although it might not matter.
I did some phonebanking for Gillum in Florida and I can tell you that the number one reason I heard people tell me they weren't voting for him was his "Anti-Israel" stance.
Democrat derangement syndrome. Everyone said the Dems were going to clean up House races and that Beto/ the Senate were 1 in 5 longshots at best due to an unfavorable map.
Losing a few tight races for governor stings but it's not the end of the world. Everything not breaking our way all at once isn't a signal to abandon hope.
It really was Virginia all over again, although in Virginia it was all upside for us.
Case in point, Weigel's tweet about Cordray winning more votes than Kasich. Same thing happened in reverse with Gillespie and McAuliffe.
The number of people still saying we need to give up on Florida is so dumb. Both of the major races were lost by less than a point. This is literally no different from Obama's win in 2012 or Trump's win in 2016. The state is clearly just very polarized and inelastic.
Like for the presidency the Midwest path is still the easiest (win MN/MI/WI/PA) but giving up on a huge state that routinely picks its winners by less than 1% is shortsighted and reactionary.
I can't handle work this morning. Multiple people mouthing off that the Democrats better not just go after Trump. They need to just make laws and get stuff done instead of playing games with our government and dragging it all into the mud.
so hey, that's good.
so hey, that's good.
yeah and to be fair the governor of Florida really has lot of sway in our relationship with Israel.
i hate this country
Yeah really. What kinda assholes would want an entire party to dig in their heels and yell no to everything the president wants to accomplish, stalling any progress for several years. All while harassing him on a daily basis via their various media outlets.
In the short term this was good for democrats, but I think the probability of a second civil war has gone up.
He wants to legalize marijuana.
He wants to abolish ICE.
He wants universal healthcare.
His policies are basically as far to the left in this country as you can get.
If anything, Beto shows policy matter less than charisma and running a massive GOTV campaign.
those are all mainstream, moderate positions. "far left" in texas maybe
also note that when he says he wants universal healthcare =/= single payer
By following on testimony and subpoenas that Nunes rejected for starters.
I'm thinking it's probably best for national Dems to keep talking about civility bs. Not act on it, just talk about it.
We're not gonna win the senate without saying sweet nothings to awful white people after last night. Once we get it we can add more states and tell them to fuck off.
We're not gonna win the senate without saying sweet nothings to awful white people after last night. Once we get it we can add more states and tell them to fuck off.
Gillum lost because south Florida, for some reason, didn't give him the same margins they gave Hillary. People criticized Hillary's strategy in a lot of places, but she understood you needed to maximize those urban votes in Florida to have any prayer, and Gillum didn't do that. Dems need to figure out a way to blend her campaign's turnout machine with Gillum's statewide message.
Yeah, we narrowly avoided the worst case scenario in the Senate. It looks like it will be a 54/46 split, which is unfortunately still probably enough to keep the Senate in Republican control for a few cycles.
Right wing media machine just works.
It's really tough to fight against it, honestly.
YES, this too.
Our candidate needs to be on the ground everywhere, even holding down the gap in rural votes as much as possible. Travel everywhere, pitch a big economic plan that is helpful to rurals and urbans alike, and be entertaining and good-looking.
Go to the counties where you're losing by fifty and only lose by forty-five, and then get people excited about you and drive up your numbers elsewhere. Beto can do this, actually, but he's probably going to wait a bit.
Ending ICE is definitively NOT a mainstream or moderate position based on polling. UHC might be, but only if you pitch it as a Medicare expansion
GOP already getting their talking point about Congressional investigations
Expect to hear it on Fox News a lot in the next few months.
Expect to hear it on Fox News a lot in the next few months.
Tester pulling ahead, nice !
Still hoping for a Sinema win.
And possibly a Nelson hold, even if that seems far-fetched at this point in time. That'd be 52-48. Absolute best we can hope for now.
Still hoping for a Sinema win.
And possibly a Nelson hold, even if that seems far-fetched at this point in time. That'd be 52-48. Absolute best we can hope for now.
Florida's black population is considerably Caribbean. I think they vote more GOP.
Compared to European politics maybe. For the US, those are all pretty far left. Especially for a state like Texas.
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The only policy that really matters is Healthcare. Everything else gets drowned in the big R besides the candidate name.
I'm so glad the election is over and I can put all my anticipation into Smash
Yeah I hate him for that. And other people (Drezner?) were tweeting at 8:30 EST that it all fell apart for Hillary at exactly 8:37pm. Duck them all.
I had to google it. Really disappointed that abolishing ice isn't more popular.
5 dlc characters + Our Lord and Savior Piranha Plant.
Its gonna be fun.
Conceding is what you do in order to keep the public safety. It's just not a sportsmanship thing
Americans are far too lazy and comfortable in their own lives to ever mount a second civil war. It would be over before it started.
Every amendment passed save for 1. I voted no on 7 or 8 of them. We are a dumb fucking state.
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