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ShadowSwordmaster

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The tone of the conversation has definitely shifted from "this investigation is useless and a waste of time and money" to "this investigation has a partisan lean and is anti-Trump" to "okay, so a few bad guys committed crimes but they're unrelated to Trump" to "the link between those bad guys and Trump is clear now", even in the right-wing echo chamber.
It's pretty much what people expected to see happen.
 

ArkhamFantasy

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Oct 25, 2017
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Maddow had a democrat on her show who said hes trying to pass a law that freezes the statute of limitations while the president is in office to prevent running the clock out, so i dont think that tweet about it being on hold is correct.
 

Linkura

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New NYTimes piece on Beto says he wants to differentiate himself from the other 2020 candidates by having a "perpetual social media live-stream" to have a personal connection with all potential voters and has told advisors outloud that he wants it to be a "near-constant video feed".

He is really going to double down on that strategy from his senate race where he would live-stream him eating breakfast with his kids or taking his kids to school while talking policy.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/09/us/politics/beto-2020-presidential-race.html
This is going to work. Hello President O'Rourke.
 

Grexeno

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Oct 25, 2017
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Republicans Promise Investigations After President O'Rourke Livestreams Classified Meeting

I bring you this future NYT headline. :P
 

Stinkles

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Logan Paul! USA! PewDiePie! USA!

The Paul/Pie ticket is the most progressive ever on spicy Memes and listening to racist voices.
 

Rune Walsh

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Oct 25, 2017
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So Beto is going full Will Conway? Doesn't really appeal to me, as others have noted, but it's smart in terms of controlling the narrative and eating Trump's media time. He doesn't have to wait for rallies and interviews to give standard media outlets a soundbite or a video clip.
 

Kirblar

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Yeah, because many of them do not run on policy and U.S has terrible turnout in both primaries and the general. Seems like a self perpetuating problem honestly.
They dont run on policy becauss it doesnt work. They understand the game they're playing. As someone said on The 100, "The problem is people."
 
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New NYTimes piece on Beto says he wants to differentiate himself from the other 2020 candidates by having a "perpetual social media live-stream" to have a personal connection with all potential voters and has told advisors outloud that he wants it to be a "near-constant video feed".

He is really going to double down on that strategy from his senate race where he would live-stream him eating breakfast with his kids or taking his kids to school while talking policy.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/09/us/politics/beto-2020-presidential-race.html

Can't wait to have a PiP "Beto Cam" for all of 2020 on every channel
 

Drakeon

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They dont run on policy becauss it doesnt work. They understand the game they're playing. As someone said on The 100, "The problem is people."
If we elected people based on well researched policy proposals Hillary would've eclipsed Obama 08 numbers. But we don't. That's why I'm all for Beto, dude clearly understands how to cultivate a cult of personality around himself and that's what we need to bring out our voters.
 

Vector

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The cult of personality thing can be used for both good and evil.

I'm generally against such a thing, but it's clear that the American people will only turn out in significant numbers for someone with a cult of personality, so...

End justifies the means I suppose.
 

KingK

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Oct 27, 2017
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I do like Beto a lot right now. He's not hostile to the left flank and appears willing to listen to them while also being popular with moderates. He doesn't seem to piss anyone off very much, has a pretty good policy agenda, and seems malleable to pressure from the left.

He also seems to be the best shot at eating away at Trump's media advantage and, I think, the most likely to win right now.
 

ArkhamFantasy

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Oct 25, 2017
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Anecdotal of course, but some of the conservatives i've seen that usually argue in bad faith completely dropped all pretenses of this being a witch hunt and have admitted that they just don't care if he worked with Russia because "it was worth seeing the liberal meltdowns when he won".

I don't know why Rand is even bothering, the charade is over, american's know what happened and now its just a matter of how many of them care that the president is a traitor.
 

Ogodei

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Oct 25, 2017
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Coruscant
Anecdotal of course, but some of the conservatives i've seen that usually argue in bad faith completely dropped all pretenses of this being a witch hunt and have admitted that they just don't care if he worked with Russia because "it was worth seeing the liberal meltdowns when he won".

I don't know why Rand is even bothering, the charade is over, american's know what happened and now its just a matter of how many of them care that the president is a traitor.

Basically. The "I did it and it was awesome" phase of this is going to land before Valentine's Day, I feel.
 

Box of Kittens

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Oct 25, 2017
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Everybody likes it when Beto livestreams but Mark Zuckerberg eats Earth toast and visits a hu-mon truck stop and no one gives him any praise. We are going to throw away the greatest candidate of all time just like that.
 

Zeno

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Oct 25, 2017
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Anecdotal of course, but some of the conservatives i've seen that usually argue in bad faith completely dropped all pretenses of this being a witch hunt and have admitted that they just don't care if he worked with Russia because "it was worth seeing the liberal meltdowns when he won".

I don't know why Rand is even bothering, the charade is over, american's know what happened and now its just a matter of how many of them care that the president is a traitor.
Live in the south, and this has been pretty obvious.
 

Vector

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Feb 28, 2018
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Tiffany will have the last laugh when Trump, Ivanka, Eric, Junior, and Kush are all neighbors in the same cell block.
 
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Midnight Jon

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Oct 25, 2017
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random aside:

someone on my tumblr feed just shared a meta-analysis of income inequality studies ostensibly covering 1979-present (specifically, findings on real median incomes, the top 10%'s share of income growth, and the top 1%'s share) done by Stephen Rose for the Urban Institute, in which he throws shade at methodological issues in Piketty and Saez (2003)'s famously-cited study

...immediately before half his conclusions rely on studies with starting points 10 years after the rest of the analysis
 

Outdoor Miner

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Oct 26, 2017
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What Chuck Todd is doing is deliberate. He knows there is no Democratic equivalent which is why he couldn't be arsed to cite a single example. He is 100% a Republican propagandist at this point. Ignore him and all NBC Politics output.
 

Wilsongt

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Oct 25, 2017
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Maybe because Democrats only cry voter fraud when they're is actual fucking voter fraud and not the fear too many black people are voting.

God I hate these fuckers.
 
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