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shadow_shogun

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Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.) said early Wednesday that Rep. Ilhan Omar's (D-Minn.) apology for comments that have been criticized as anti-Semitic was "entirely appropriate," even as President Trump and others have said she did not go far enough.

"I do accept Rep. Omar's apology and I think it's entirely appropriate," Lankford said on CNN's "New Day."

"She's a brand-new, freshman representative," he continued. "Sometimes, you get out there and you say things and then you try to correct it. For any of us that are on television, like right now, you get questions, you make responses or you put out a tweet trying to be funny or to try to press a point, and sometimes you go over the line."
 

kess

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Yup same here

Having recreational hunting and fishing does multiple great things

Helps manage populations that are no longer naturally controlled by predators

Helps engage the public, educate them and have them put value in public land and wildlife

Allows funding for other important conservation projects like forest Management, Fish farming, and invasive species control

Here in Michigan I am grateful for all the positive work the DNR doesfor the state

Ducks Unlimited does pretty great work as well. Many Northern game commisions must appear almost socialistic in their approach.to other parts of the country.
 

Wilsongt

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In the most unsurprising news of the day, there is a for-profit migrant children detention center in south Florida.
 

Teggy

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TIL McConnell is 76. Why is it that rich people are always the ones who want to work way past retirement age? Don't they want to enjoy life?


Trumps #1 fan not loving the deal?



Oh my, I just went down a bill Mitchell rabbit hole. This is what he believes (you know, despite nothing happening at midterms)

 
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cameron

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Karen Travers @karentravers

.@presssec on incident where BBC photographer was physically attacked by attendee at Trump's El Paso TX rally:

"The idea that the president or anybody on his team or anybody in his administration would encourage violence is absolutely absurd."

8:42 AM - Feb 13, 2019



Karen Travers @karentravers


Reminder of what Pres Trump said in Oct 2018 about GOP Rep. Greg Gianforte's physical assault on a reporter:

"Any guy that can do a body slam, he is my type!"

The next day, the president said he had no regret for making light of the assault.https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/montana-rally-president-trump-praises-greg-gianforte-body/story?id=58596529 …

8:45 AM - Feb 13, 2019
 

Blader

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This is also probably true. Everything is amplified in the media and online.

I just wish that leadership had said, "You know, we have two minority groups here, and I don't think they fully understand one another, so let's broker a discussion about this." We might have our Farrakhan types who are a goddam mess when it comes to Jewish people, but most black Americans just don't view Jewish people through the common lens that might be ascribed to a prejudicial WASP (or a WASP in general). That's not our history with Jewish people. We have a different history. If we're going to be in the same party, we need to understand one another, but leadership is responsible for brokering a much-needed dialogue in the media here when we have these misunderstandings.

Instead, we got the same response to Omar that we'd give a clearly anti-Semitic Republican WASP, and it's just fucking infuriating to me, I can't lie. It's really deflating in a way that I can't emphasize enough. And I'd have had no problems if the ADL hadn't put out a press release saying "We want to work with Rep. Omar, and while we don't believe that her words had malice, we need to talk about why Jewish-Americans would hate to hear language like that and where we can work together to talk this out and learn how to treat and talk to one another, even when we disagree," like we need to. And I think the Democratic leadership had a responsibility to do that, too.
heh, I feel like "boy, Jewish Americans just hate to hear someone, unintentionally or not, skirt around some painful anti-Semitic tropes" would be really underselling the offense taken!

I see what you're saying, and I think it's fair to be disappointed with Dem leadership's response (especially since AOC, Rose, and Omar herself all handled the aftermath far more tactfully than Pelosi, et al. did). At the same time, whether Dem leadership really has a responsibility to broker conversations about bridging the cultural gaps between black and Jewish Americans, I'd actually argue that - as great a legislative tactician I think Nancy Pelosi is - I don't really trust a handful of septuagenarians to handle that trip wire with any real grace. And I think what's more valuable in terms of learning from this experience vis-a-vis cultural divides between black and Jewish Americans, and really all the different interest groups within the Democratic party, are the more grassroots, public arena conversations like this one. Personally speaking as a white guy, I've found the last few pages super enlightening and informative and helpful, and far more so than I think a press release from the offices of Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer would've sufficed.
 

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Sources tell CNN and CBS News that Donald intends to sign:




New Day @NewDay

Pres. Trump intends to sign border security deal to avoid another government shutdown, according to sources who have spoken with Trump.

"If the President is saying this is some giant, big, long concrete wall, that is not the case," @RepCheri Bustos says. https://cnn.it/2tk1nyA

7:43 AM - Feb 13, 2019




CBS This Morning @CBSThisMorning

Sources tell @CBSNews that President Trump is very likely to sign a bipartisan spending deal that gives much less money than he wants for barriers on the Mexico border. The agreement would end nearly two months of gridlock and prevent another partial government shutdown.

7:21 AM - Feb 13, 2019


Trump is surrendering if he signs this, he will never get his wall. Him saying that the wall is being is evidence of that and his idiotic supporters will buy into that. The whole situation was pointless and only happened because Trump got called out by Ann Coulter.
 
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Pence going on TV today to try to pressure Omar to resign. I think this is a "fight" Trump and Pence will lose, but we know it's yet another campaign tactic.
 

thefro

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https://apnews.com/9a47a0def9234e338bc72053e86f221f

Looks like they got the DNC voter file stuff worked out with the state parties and Howard Dean is going to head up managing it

AP said:
The one-time presidential candidate, former Vermont governor and ex-Democratic National Committee chairman is set to return to prominence as head of a new operation that Democrats hope puts them back on par with Republicans in the never-ending race to use voter data to drive Americans to the polls.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Dean confirmed that he's signed on to lead a planned data exchange hammered out by DNC officials, state party leaders and Democratic consultants. The agreement still requires the expected approval from state party leaders gathering Wednesday in Washington, but it would end more than 18 months of internal party wrangling that has dogged DNC Chairman Tom Perez amid fights over money and control.

"This is a big breakthrough," Dean said. "This is a model we've needed, and Republicans have it already. I'd sort of given up that we could get it done."

The arrangement would allow the national party, state parties and independent political action groups on the left to share voter data in real time during campaigns. That means, for example, that a field worker for a congressional campaign in Iowa and another for an independent political action committee knocking on doors in Florida could update a master voter file essentially as they work. When a presidential campaign spends big money on consumer data to update voter profiles, the new information would go into the file as well. And all participating organizations would have access to the latest information.
 

BigWinnie1

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Any update on Tlaib's Palestine trip/delegation?

No because no one on the Dems side are planning any trips before the Government funding vote happens. No one is gonna talk about any trips before that happens because they would be accused of alot of bullshit. Wait until after it passes and is in place before any of that happens. It might take a bit longer because we still have workers who haven't gotten their pay yet because of Republican bullshit so we might have a fight about that next.
 

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Karen Travers @karentravers

.@presssec on incident where BBC photographer was physically attacked by attendee at Trump's El Paso TX rally:

"The idea that the president or anybody on his team or anybody in his administration would encourage violence is absolutely absurd."

8:42 AM - Feb 13, 2019



Karen Travers @karentravers


Reminder of what Pres Trump said in Oct 2018 about GOP Rep. Greg Gianforte's physical assault on a reporter:

"Any guy that can do a body slam, he is my type!"

The next day, the president said he had no regret for making light of the assault.https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/montana-rally-president-trump-praises-greg-gianforte-body/story?id=58596529 …

8:45 AM - Feb 13, 2019


That's her go to line for everything now when she knows she has to lie her ass off. "That's absurd!" is her tell.
 

shadow_shogun

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Wisconsin GOP lawmakers force Colin Kaepernick's name out of Black History Month resolution
MADISON - For the second year in a row, some white lawmakers in the state Legislature objected to how black lawmakers want to honor Black History Month — this time because of Colin Kaepernick.

The state Assembly passed a resolution Tuesday drafted by the Legislature's black caucus to honor prominent black Americans during February — but only after Republicans blocked it until black Democratic lawmakers agreed to remove the name of the controversial National Football League quarterback.

Democratic Rep. David Crowley of Milwaukee, who authored the resolution, called the episode "a textbook example of white privilege" and a "slap in the face."

Crowley said he was grateful to ultimately have the Assembly pass the resolution authored by black lawmakers, "but I had to get the blessing of all of my white counterparts."

"It is critical for this body to recognize the black caucus and recognize the resolution we put forward," Crowley said on the Assembly floor. "Many of these people that you don't agree with will still be in the history books that your children and grandchildren will be reading."

Kaepernick, who was born in Milwaukee, has drawn a firestorm of controversy after he began kneeling in 2016 during the national anthem to protest poor treatment of black Americans.
 

BWoog

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I think one of the worst things the media does with the GOP is that it hand waves all their evil shit because "well they're supposed to be evil" and constantly puts the Democrats on a pedestal of a moral high ground. Its ridiculous.
 

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Smart of her to point out that the prez never apologizes for anything. Steve King doesn't either.

The new congresspersons have shown decent enough media savvy to sidestep controversy and stay on message. I doubt the controversy surrounding Talib lasts much longer, especially if the BDS legislation comes up to vote in the House.
 

Hopfrog

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Schultz is doing nothing to appeal to democrat voters lol.

Schultz is the Boogie candidate.


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Bramblebutt

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Schultz is the Boogie candidate.


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Not even. A Boogie candidate would attempt to adopt some form of progressive policy to create a sort of centrist Frankenstein platform. Schultz is just the milquetoast version of Trump: an aloof neoliberal billionaire with no public policy qualifications or experience advocating for his own financial interests and a return to an idealized version of America that only ever truly existed for rich white men.

He's like if someone looked at Trump and thought the only thing wrong with him was his diction.
 
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Nadler told me Matt Whitaker "may have" misled his panel in last week's testimony. He declined to give specifics on how Whitaker might have misled — or say when they will bring him for deposition

"We'll review the testimony. I'm not so sure he was truthful in everything he said"

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It's interesting that none of the candidates are really pushing for unique immigration pushes. The party definitely wants to shift focus to healthcare instead like in 2018.
 

thefro

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Responded faster than I could. If he chooses to run, Beto owns the immigration debate.

Beto's medium post from a few days ago is the best breakdown of why we have the current issues with immigration and how to fix them that I've read.

National politicians haven't been saying that or willing to address the underlying issues that give a full alternative to what Trump says.

The Princeton study O'Rourke cites is a great read as well.

Douglas Massey and Karen Pren said:
Suppose, for example, that in choosing to reform the Bracero Program, Congress had enacted safeguards to improve the wages, working conditions, and treatment of workers instead of shutting down the program entirely. Suppose that in implementing the new system of ethnically neutral country quotas, Congress had granted special, more generous visa allocations to Canada and Mexico as America's closest neighbors. Finally, suppose that instead of funding the Contras and other paramilitary operations, generating a cycle of violence and economic disruption, the Reagan Administration had let events in Nicaragua take their course without interference.

Under those circumstances mass migration from Latin America might indeed have been avoided. With the continuation of a reformed temporary labor migration program, the flow from Mexico would have remained predominantly circular. With a generous country quota for permanent resident visas, Mexican workers who established legitimate ties and wished to settle in the United States would have had a legal pathway. Hispanic population growth would thus have been slow and illegal migration would likely not have risen to the high levels that have made it into a major political issue. The Latino threat narrative would not have gained traction, fears of an alien flood or invasion would not have pushed Americans toward greater conservatism, and there would have been little support for restrictionist policies.
 
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