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US PoliERA 2019 |OT4| Folded like a DOG
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Collins gets to play moderate darling again, media falls for it again, and she'll probably vote with the GOP again.
Hint: this is what the stupid clown meme is all about, not white nationalism. We're living in clown world.
At least she'll grimace when casting the deciding vote.
I'm sure it'll be the Democrats' fault when this doesn't get a vote in the Senate, because part of Pelosi's job is also to force Republicans to be good people.
FTFY
At this point, I'm unwilling to believe the media is being tricked by anyone or that their falling for anything. They know exactly what they're doing. And they're trash for doing it.
She'll be "troubled", but vote yes and mention "dark money" 48 times during her 10 minute speech.
I find it absolutely laughable that one dickhead can just decide unilaterally to not bring anything passed by the House up. No one voted him to have this power over the country.
I am sure that is how it will be spun by Fox News and the like. They might also go with "How dare the Democrats not want gigantic telecom companies with checkered pasts involving consumer right completely gate-keeping the internet? How else will they grow their multi-billion dollar business with these Net Neutrality rules in place?'
I am expecting the same level of right-wing bullshit defending this as they did the last time with the shady FCC comments and complaints they made up in support of their own argument. Which I think is still an issue that needs looked at.
I honestly want to make a thread once the House recesses or by the end of the year highlighting all the progressive legislation the House has passed that will never get a vote in the Senate (or wouldn't withstand Trump's veto if it even got that far).
But by that point I'm sure the excuse would be "well Pelosi knows that none of that will pass so she's okay with it now, but once there's a Democratic trifecta she won't support any of it"
If they did it right before the election? It would absolutely hurt Dem morale. Healthcare motivated us in 2018 because Trump failed to repeal the ACA. We knew that by getting at least the House they could not repeal it this year even with extra votes in the Senate for the GOP. If the Supreme Court does INSTEAD before Election Day 2020 then it absolutely would hurt morale on the Dem side as a decision against the ACA will defy the will of voters to protect a law that would in this scenario be declared unconstitutional.
McConnell is one of the most powerful people in Washington and one of the most destructive to the nation.
Not even hyperbole.
Lol no, it would do the exact opposite, you have no idea how livid Dems and even moderates would be if suddenly there healthcare was up ended due to the conservative court and in part because the executive office didn't even defend it.
I think you would see anger. I also disagree it's cause they failed to repeal, it's cause they failed to improve the health care system.
He is also one of the most deeply cynical politicians of the modern era, and a textbook example of the type of person who should not have that kind of power.
"The Democrats' "50 state strategy" was collusion with Russia all along!"
(Someone will try to use this at some point)
Are you really trying to say that the ACA being repealed would suddenly kill the morale of Democrats? Really? This isn't 2016.
The fact it was an electoral bloodbath for the GOP in 2018 for just trying and failing to repeal it was already a sign that poking the hornet's nest was gonna cost them. Imagine if they actually were successful. The midterm results would've been the desired outcome in comparison. Especially since the ACA is popular. Especially since Democrats are trusted on healthcare by a large margin.
But yeah, Dems and other voters are gonna suddenly sit it out and not be completely and utterly pissed enough to vote. Come on...
The person that gets this spot is going to be evil as fuck. He's stacking his DHS team to ignore the law.
This is such a classic Barr move. He did the same with his 4 page "summary". After making a claim or suggestion he'll back off when challenged claiming he poorly worded his claim or the intent was misinterpreted. The problem is in both scenarios what's he's done or said puts Trump in a good light (initially) and first impressions go a long way. I think he's worse than Sessions who was an obvious racist while Barr seems to have zero moral compass and is quite smug and comfortable in that role.
Barr made those false claims in that hearing so that they can push it to the Fox News zombies. They will keep playing his "I believe there was illegal spying" over and over again, but they will not play the "I am basing that off of absolutely no evidence whatsoever".
It's propaganda .
It's propaganda .
Like I said, Trump with a competent cabinet is the scariest thing in the world.
This reminds me, NPR tried to run a piece humanizing the reincarnation of Goebbels this morning. I couldn't even get passed the opening which described him as a "young conservative trying to find his voice in liberal Santa Monica." What the hell kind of shit is this, NPR? The man is, at best a white nationalist. Why would you run a puff piece about him? Disgusting.
He currently has the least competent cabinet he's ever had. Everyone who actually knew what they were doing is gone. If Barr seems to be doing an ok job for now it's only a matter of time until he joins the clown show and the cycle continue.
Have it be the vice president.
For extra shenanigans hold a separate election for VP during midterm years where they just get to run against the incumbent president. Obstruction forever!
You mean by the voting public? I'd imagine they would still be of the party that has the majority. Who is the most popular Republican senator right now?
It'd be the most popular Senator from the most populous states in the country that ran. Probably a Kamala or a Rubio. It'd probably turn into the minor leagues for President.
They only care about states' rights when it screws over minorities and women.
I don't know what the problem is at NPR, but they've just totally shit the bed since Nov 2016.
The more extreme and crazy Trump and the GOP get, the softer NPR goes on them. I can't even tell you how many soft-pedaled interviews I've heard with GOP congressmen the last two years.
I finally had to give up the station- it was making me too angry on my drive home from work, which is exactly when I need to be calming down.
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