Here's the proper way to frame the NBC poll and what it says
Done panicking now?
Also for context
Done panicking now?
Also for context
US PoliEra 2019 |OT8| WHITE HOUSE ADMITS TO QUID PRO QUO WITH UKRAINE
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The person who saw him commit the murder didn't like Trump, so obviously he's innocent even though he waved his bloody shirt at a press conference.
They'll say it wasn't a "bi-partisan" vote and they won't comply with a purely "partisan" inquiry.
I can see this a mile away.
Save the snap for next November if things start to really go south.
The house aren't going to roll over here. There is no reason for them to.
But yeah, the issue with this rhetoric is transparent, given the DOJ's stance that they can't indict him because impeachment exists.
They won't comply no matter what happens. Because they committed crimes. They will commit more crimes before this is done. They already have. No sense losing any sleep on whether or not the White House complies given scenario A, B, or C.
If it's Biden and the whistleblower is a high ranking intelligence official, all I can say is "Yeah, no shit, Sherlock?"
Biden was VP for 8 years.
A lot of high ranking intelligence officials probably have or had a "working relationship" with the President and VP.
I believe literal murder would cause Trump's approval numbers to go up.
Honestly 20% of republicans supporting just the inquiry should be setting off alarms for the GOP because these numbers are almost assuredly going to keep going up.
These numbers are absolutely insane. And they're only going to get worse for Trump.
Or with current Senators/Reps for that matter.
Basically a "who gives a shit" situation that the GOP will hang onto because they know their base is stupid and they got nothing substantial.
Inherent contempt of Congress. House Democrats already said that further stonewalling would be taken as obstruction.
I think all Gorsuch really wants to take a hatchet to is business regulations and that he wasn't the "best" pick Trump could have made to impose Christian Sharia on the country, which is more what ends up on the docket in this day and age. Gorsuch was picked for the kind of big cases the court heard in the Obama years.
I think they don't wanna go down they road if they don't have to
Per that letter, that is the only road that the administration is leaving them. This is "put up or shut up" time for the House.
Yup, Gorsuch basically wants to make it impossible to regulate anything.
https://newrepublic.com/article/154266/supreme-courts-covert-plan-gut-epas-powers
It's Custer's last stand basically. "I declare you unconstitutional"
There have got to be some Republicans out there that have given some thought to what they're going to do post-Trump. When he's no longer in power, he's going to take his supporters with him and fracture the party (and there are already less Republicans than Democrats). You know the second he loses power he's going to turn on the other Republicans for not "supporting him enough."
The only way they can salvage their party is if Trump is completely out of the public eye after he leaves power (ie. Prison or in hiding in a foreign country). At what point do they just go ahead and turn on him so they can send him to prison or fleeing to Russia? Just go "Sorry constituents, we support his policies but he did commit crimes and so we're forced to hold him accountable."
I guess they think they can squeeze a bit more juice from this rotting mango before discarding him?
The only way they can salvage their party is if Trump is completely out of the public eye after he leaves power (ie. Prison or in hiding in a foreign country). At what point do they just go ahead and turn on him so they can send him to prison or fleeing to Russia? Just go "Sorry constituents, we support his policies but he did commit crimes and so we're forced to hold him accountable."
I guess they think they can squeeze a bit more juice from this rotting mango before discarding him?
My brain cannot process their argument that Impeachment is Unconstitutional.
Like.. What the fuck.
It is literally written in the Constitution, that's all the legal precedent you need. IT HAS BEEN EVEN BEEN USED, ON RECORD.
Fucking, Fuck off with that bullshit.
But hey, if that is the hill they want to die on, by all means.
Like.. What the fuck.
It is literally written in the Constitution, that's all the legal precedent you need. IT HAS BEEN EVEN BEEN USED, ON RECORD.
Fucking, Fuck off with that bullshit.
But hey, if that is the hill they want to die on, by all means.
I think...we're near at Trump's floor. Maybe 5% more in favor. We won't get better than high 50's. But at the absolute we will hit a hard floor of 33% against impeachment. These are Ride or Die trumpers.
Phrases of the week:
1. "Wow, ok."
2. "Great and unmatched wisdom"
3. "Crazy and frightening"
1. "Wow, ok."
2. "Great and unmatched wisdom"
3. "Crazy and frightening"
Of course not. The precedent for jailing someone based on inherent contempt is like 90 years old. The last thing Congress wants is some hack McConnell has installed to blow up stare decisis and further slow down the train. The House--with good reason--believes there are massive oceans of evidence and Trump's goons are too dumb or venal to know how to completely cover their tracks.
Catching these assholes in purjury is more cut and dry than tossing them into a coat closet for a couple months
Pretty much. Anyone can see this coming a mile away and Democrats just falling into the same traps.
My guess is that they'll wait until the last minute and then appeal the subpoena. Alternatively, they'll just ignore it altogether and force the House to do something about it.
Has Yang gotten 3% in Quinn before or is this his fourth qualifying poll for November debate?
Copmala flopmala embharrisment.
Copmala flopmala embharrisment.
Probably not a good idea right not considering who is on it
Bret was literally chosen as SC to protect Trump in this exact scenario
I feel like contempt-> fine will be the most extreme. People will not react well to arrests. Its something that never happens and will be used as a call to all his supporters to take action. People are too braindead to understand the gravity of what everyone already knows. Footage of politicians in custody will instantly materialize in people's minds as 'oh thats too far gotta stop that!'
True, but he's also in there for life, and Trump is a flash in the pan by comparison.
Trump expects a favor for a favor, but there's no more leverage Trump has for him at this point.
Yeah, but Roberts wasn't. And frankly, I don't see anyone but Kavanaugh and Thomas being remotely swayed by the frankly asinine assertion that impeachment inquiries are unconstitutional. Also, there's only three ways a Supreme Court justice leaves the Supreme Court; death and retirement are the most common, but they can also be impeached. Any justice who goes on record as saying the Executive branch is subject to no legal oversight whatsoever could find themselves being impeached and losing their jobs for harboring an absolutely insane view of the Constitution at some point down the road. Who wants that albatross on their neck when Trump is getting impeached regardless of their decision in that specific instance? There's no calculus where it makes sense for anyone on the bench to side with Trump here.
If the Supreme Court rules that impeachment queries have no power to breach a broad declaration of executive immunity, the impeachment power doesn't exist.
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