US PoliEra 2020 |OT6| I will not be closing this thread when the second wave hits.
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At this point I'm surprised they didn't put border wall funding(that Mexicans are supposed to pay for) into the Covid bill...
That McConnell quote about how it's on the White House and Dems to make a deal shows that I think we're getting a deal closer to the House version rather than the Senate version. I'm pretty sure he realizes that passing stuff closer to Democrats ideologically helps out Republican Senators more in a few months time, but many in the caucus don't want to openly run on a 'left leaning' bill. Passing the buck to the White House lets him point to Trump and Munchin when Conservatives complain that it's to Liberal.
That's pretty much what happened last time.
That's pretty much what happened last time.
It's less that and more a tacit acknowledgment of who calls the shots.
McConnell is directly in charge of the Republican Senate, but he's not the one with the power. Trump is.
If Mnuchin is negotiating on behalf of the White House (whether with Trump's input or just to appease Trump by getting something done), the Republican-led Senate is effectively neutered. They're not going against whatever it is Mnuchin, as proxy for the President, agrees on with the House.
So, all that time... was fucking wasted. Should have just let Nancy and Mnuchin hash this thing out weeks ago.
And now we're fast approaching a cliff edge.
True.
After today I would say the final bill is:
-$600 extended for a certain period of time
-Liability protection for businesses
-Extend moratorium on evictions
-Second round of $1200 stimulus
The bedwetting is so tiring. Also I don't see the point in watching these hearings. Is any new information coming from them? It'll be posted afterwards. Boom, completely pointless. They're the definition of "could've been done over email."
This is how you get Mondale.
We have a big tent, they don't. Sucks but thems the breaks.
By all accounts, Nancy Pelosi fucking hates Steny, and the feeling is mutual. He's been pissed for years that she won't step aside, and she keeps him on as a pet which helps her whip votes.
This is how you get Mondale.
We have a big tent, they don't. Sucks but thems the breaks.
By all accounts, Nancy Pelosi fucking hates Steny, and the feeling is mutual. He's been pissed for years that she won't step aside, and she keeps him on as a pet which helps her whip votes.
The problem is we need to get help to people and need to go through Republicans to get it. Political gamesmanship would say just hold out because the GOP are in charge and they will get all the blame but then we're sacrificing actual people who need actual help for political gains. Even if these political gains help more people in the long run, it's a tough call. The GOP don't have much of a political leg to stand on in negotiations but I imagine some people actually want to, you know, get real help to people so between negotiating with the GOP or getting nothing, they'll negotiate.
Fingers tightly crossed. I can swallow the liability protection if they change the standard. They wanted it to cover everything other than *gross* negligence.
The problem with Hoyer's comment isn't that he is willing to acquiesce to lowering unemployment benefits. The issue is that he is actually agreeing with the GOP's erroneous claims that those extra benefits would lead to fewer jobs. That's not compromise. That's joining in the other party's grift.
...that's a Supreme Court ruling. The highest court in the land. You cannot ignore it. I'm confused right now.
When you corrupt every department in the government you can break the law with impunity. Who's going to stop it from happening?
Same people who would make Trump leave office if he loses and refuses to accept the results. (Nobody, there are no adults in the room.)
There are so many laws to be made if Biden gets into office. I'm sure I sound like a broken record about this, but in general there needs to be fewer political "norms" and "agreements," and more enforceable laws and actionable mechanisms for those laws. Checks and balances need to go through the roof, as well as more robust defenses, making it harder to remove them on the whim of any one man.
Basically, methods for protecting the country from a dictatorship need to be ironclad. If they are not, the country would dive headfirst into it again come 2025.
We get one shot at this.
They totally could impeach him again during the lame duck period. Republicans could even have cover to rid of him early. I doubt they would, but they could.
At least Warren gets it unlike many who just want to stick their head in the sand until November
Pretty great. Currently on MSNBC while the hearing is on break.
Uh, they've been strong this whole time. The GoP couldn't even get a bill ready last week cause their senators couldn't agree on shit.
I was talking about the Barr hearing specifically, it's still going.
So you've probably already seen that graphic showing a very convenient flattening of the curve of new cases of coronavirus, but this youtube video is a lot more in depth and i think does lend support to the idea that the government is simply lying about the amount of new cases of the coronavirus we've had, particularly in the red states since HHS started collecting the data as opposed to the CDC. The slope of the curve for new cases went from 6.8 to -.9 in red states - but barely changed in blue states: from 2.3 to 1.5. That's way too convenient. What accounts for such a dramatic drop in red states?
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Run from the numbers all you want, but you can't outrun reality and a deadly virus.
Biden's taking questions. Time for Rose Twitter and the Trump War Room Twitter to mysteriously all say the same things after this
I don't doubt there is some fuckery in the numbers but there is real evidence to suggest my red state, AZ, is past it's peak and for good reason. The mask mandates are seeing pretty widespread adoption, and bars/clubs were always our biggest trouble spot which have now been closed for almost a month. ER visits have been down for almost 2 weeks now.
Andrew Jackson, Trump's favorite guy supposedly told the SCOTUS to quite literally fuck off after they decided against him too, so I mean he's in good company.
I'm good with Kamala and look forward to her eating Pence alive in debates.
You mean Kamala vs. Nikki Haley? We all know a Pence firing is on the way.
y'all gonna be real surprised when it's oprah
I didnt see it from the start, but he's doing really well. Very impressed, he's really plugged into the issues so far. Its so refreshing to hear a politician know the fuck is actually going on in reality.
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