Warner Bros. Reportedly Stressed That Justice League Won't Outperform Thor: Ragnarok
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"Oh my god, Joss is alive! I thought I'd killed him earlier. Let's go Joss!"
I don't get why it needs to be "the end of the DC universe" if Thor beats it (which it probably will).
If it does bad, it's because of bad reviews, word of mouth, and people feeling burned out by previous movies. But just like Wonder Woman showed, if you make a good movie, that the general public enjoys, it will do well.
I don't really see the point of starting over from scratch, especially when people are saying they finally got Superman "right" in this one (CGI upper lip aside).
If it does bad, it's because of bad reviews, word of mouth, and people feeling burned out by previous movies. But just like Wonder Woman showed, if you make a good movie, that the general public enjoys, it will do well.
I don't really see the point of starting over from scratch, especially when people are saying they finally got Superman "right" in this one (CGI upper lip aside).
Marvel has lapped them with what, 3 separate ensemble casts created from scratch, all with more interesting introductions, characters, chemistry and stories, and they can't even get one right with the most well known superheroes on the planet? There's one problem here and it ain't the properties.
Guardians of The Galaxy.. a bunch of unpopular superheroes were enough to outgross Superman's Man of Steel
If you tell that to anyone 15 years ago they would die laughing
1. It was a good movie.
2. It' setting in the past pretty much totally disassociated itself from the DCCU
Posts like this make it immediately apparent you're not an adult though.
I can say the same thing about Sonic Team's games. How do you mishandle such a long-running and big name for so long so many times in a row
Then you seriously don't look into what films are out now if you feel there aren't any films for adults and that they're all Comic book movies.
Marvel just somehow makes it look so easy. But just getting films like this out the door is a Herculean task and DC/WB didn't take it seriously.
At the risk of falling for trollbait, how little attention are you actually paying to modern cinema to legitimately believe this?
"The guy from xXx and one of the theater people from Wet Hot American Summer are going to voice a talking tree and raccoon that have adventures in space with that professional wrestler Batista. It will make more money than Superman."
I've said this repeatedly since BvS came out but making their money back is not enough. This and BvS are poised to make less money then the last two solo Batman movies. You can't dump this much money, good will and franchise building into something that can't even match The Dark Knight Rises' box office.
Bale's not coming back. He really doesn't strike me as an actor that works on projects for the money, and even less messing with the legacy he and Nolan built together.
I doubt WB is even offering anything, this is straight up BS.
In Hollywood that doesn't mean much, there's always a new inventory of empty-headed studio people ready to saddle creative projects with their stupid ideas.
That's my plan for this weekend. I'll watch Justice League when the theater isn't as crowded later on.
Thor is not A-list.
Batman, Superman, Spider-Man, and Wolverine are A-List
Thor is the next tier.
Maybe to comic book readers, but I don't think the general public knew or cared the character and you need them for a successful blockbuster movie.
superman is clearly not A-List considering how little people care about him.
This encapsulates the problems over at Warner/DC perfectly. They had the biggest superheroes so of course they expected to beat everyone else. Who cares about film quality, right? The fact that they STILL dont get that just brand name means fuck all is worrying.
HOW CAN THOR BEAT JUSTICE LEAGUE?
Well Marvel spent years and multiple movies building the world and the character. They took chances and gave it a director that you wouldn't normally pick for a super hero film. And all that love paid off because they hit it out of the park.
You on the other hand threw in every hero you could find and thought you could just bully your way to a franchise.
HOW CAN THOR BEAT JUSTICE LEAGUE?
Well Marvel spent years and multiple movies building the world and the character. They took chances and gave it a director that you wouldn't normally pick for a super hero film. And all that love paid off because they hit it out of the park.
You on the other hand threw in every hero you could find and thought you could just bully your way to a franchise.
I actually agree with you just wanted to post the gif
Maybe hire someone that understands the characters.
It's amazing how a slam dunk turnee into a disaster
It's amazing how a slam dunk turnee into a disaster
Superman's popularity has been steadily on the decline for awhile, but he was A-List at one point
Aside from WW, they're basically making the same mistakes The Mummy and Dark Universe did, which is not wanting to do the groundwork that Marvel did to actually make their whole thing work
Marvel spent four years and five mostly separate movies establishing characters, where each movie aside from Iron Man 2 focused on the character and telling a concise contained story first and foremost. Look at how The Mummy spends like half of its movie setting up future movies more than it does caring about the actual threat and premise of its title, or the same concerns with Batman v Superman.
I'd argue that Man of Steel and Wonder Woman were pretty effective, but then Suicide Squad, BvS, and JL threw that whole thing out of whack, especially because they were trying to course-correct and build up to an Avengers-style movie at the same time
It's clear they're following in Marvel's footsteps while also rushing things for their cinematic universe. This leads to sloppy movies that try to appease everyone through sloppy editing after the production is over. Funny the only two movies that don't do this are their most critically acclaimed ones: MoS (which is fine at least compared to what we have now) and WW.
What Warner should be trying to do is set themselves apart from the Marvel formula of superhero movies like Fox is with a bunch of different genres of superhero movies than generic action featuring a god/alien that wants to rule the world. Even Marvel is experimenting with their generic formula and not playing it straight anymore (until Infinity War comes out). Their most successful movies as of late were about a weird space team featuring a tree and talking raccoon, a teenage hero stopping a guy who just wants to make money, and a comedy about gladiator fights and space epics. Compared what DC is doing to Marvel and Fox, and you can see how far behind DC is creatively. Even Wonder Woman had this problem, but at least it had the WWI period piece going for it and had a good lead in Wonder Woman.
Who knew comedies could gross so much money
Kind of like how IT as a horror grossed so much money
Kind of like how IT as a horror grossed so much money
A-list were Spiderman, Batman, Superman and the X-Men and maybe The Hulk, Cap and Wonder Woman.
The a-list stuff doesnt really work for the MCU since it couldnt use the x-men or Spiderman and it started off with Iron Man pretty much breaking the whole deal.