Someone should just make a spoiler thread at this point. All this spoiler tagging is dizzying. The game has clearly leaked so....
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Warning: The Last of Us 2 details have leaked | Spoiler Thread | [Mark All Spoilers]
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not sure what they gain by that since they said Joel died in the middle of the game.
the mystery woman played by Laura Bailey who was in the second trailer
oof, i got spoiled by a gif floating around. it was just a random reaction gif but someone spliced in some very obvious spoilers in the middle of the reaction. it was cruel, but hilarious. i dont mind too much, but may as well let people in this thread know if you're concerned of such things.
Music to my ears. I hope we have a decent amount of new enemies in this game. I really enjoy the gameplay in the first one. The characters and story are definitely what elevate it to masterpiece status, but they sure weren't the main reason why I replayed it more time than I can remember. Only good gameplay does that.
Someone on the previous page said there was a Turkish version on YouTube which was longer but got removed. I can't really confirm that myself since I've only seen the Brazilian Portuguese version.
As far as character switch halfway through the game is concerned, it is lol. The level list posted a few pages back confirms it. Kinda didn't expect this but it's welcomed.
Apparently she is the daughter of one of the surgeons that Joel killed at the end of the previous game:
Ohhh-kay, that's a lot to take in. Some of it I find potentially really interesting, some parts I'm more wary of.
Fantastic post, I really, really hope your suggestion is how the game ultimately ends, I'd be genuinely quite content with that. Bittersweet, but satisfying.
Both posts have really great points.
I'd forgotten about that game, you're right, lol.
The reveal of the mysterious woman being the surgeon's daughter from Part 1 actually made me laugh out loud, so, yeah. I'm sure it'll be implemented better than it sounds, though. Curious to how she found Joel and Ellie, but if she's linked to the Fireflies, I presume it would be somewhat commonly known that Tommy and Joel were brothers, Tommy left the Fireflies, so if you find Tommy, you might find Joel, too.
Judging by the scene with Ellie and Dinah talking, Joel's dead, along with Jesse. I was hoping Joel would stay around for longer, but at least from one of the leaked clips Joel and Ellie did at least discuss the events of the ending of the first game, which was something I was worried wouldn't happen. I know other users loathe Joel, but between the writing and Baker's performance, Joel was always such a fascinating character for me, especially with his choice at the end of the first game. I'll genuinely miss him, replaying TLoU got me through some tough times and helped me process losing loved ones, so Joel, Ellie and all they've been through and lost have always meant a lot to me.
From The Godfather Part II references, I assumed Abby would be Ellie's mother, Anna, so I was caught there, lol. Having a new character (Abby) kill a main pre-existing character (Joel), and then playing as them in turn is something that can only be uniquely done in video games as a medium, which I find really interesting. Depending on the player's opinion of Joel, one might be really happy to play as Abby, others might be considerably less so. An Abby vs. Ellie final boss fight could be interesting, too, depending on the outcome -- I'd be considerably unimpressed with Ellie dying, as discussed further below.
I'm curious how the villains fit into all of this, because I thought Abby's mission would be going after them.
Judging by the scene with Ellie and Dinah talking, Joel's dead, along with Jesse. I was hoping Joel would stay around for longer, but at least from one of the leaked clips Joel and Ellie did at least discuss the events of the ending of the first game, which was something I was worried wouldn't happen. I know other users loathe Joel, but between the writing and Baker's performance, Joel was always such a fascinating character for me, especially with his choice at the end of the first game. I'll genuinely miss him, replaying TLoU got me through some tough times and helped me process losing loved ones, so Joel, Ellie and all they've been through and lost have always meant a lot to me.
From The Godfather Part II references, I assumed Abby would be Ellie's mother, Anna, so I was caught there, lol. Having a new character (Abby) kill a main pre-existing character (Joel), and then playing as them in turn is something that can only be uniquely done in video games as a medium, which I find really interesting. Depending on the player's opinion of Joel, one might be really happy to play as Abby, others might be considerably less so. An Abby vs. Ellie final boss fight could be interesting, too, depending on the outcome -- I'd be considerably unimpressed with Ellie dying, as discussed further below.
I'm curious how the villains fit into all of this, because I thought Abby's mission would be going after them.
Fantastic post, I really, really hope your suggestion is how the game ultimately ends, I'd be genuinely quite content with that. Bittersweet, but satisfying.
100% agree, Abby sparing Ellie at the end would make for a much stronger ending (ETA: or vice versa!) -- otherwise the commentary on the cycle of violence falls incredibly flat for me, because the cycle just continues, no one learned anything, it's all pointless. I think it would genuinely put me off ever replaying the first game, because it what was it all for? Abby or Ellie choosing to make a different choice to not kill the other at least shows growth, even if it's bittersweet. I don't know if there would be a TLoU3, but Ellie finding herself in Joel's position as a parent would be fitting considering the direction of the first game.
From one of the clips I saw, it does seem like Dinah does wants the cycle to stop and to take care of her child, but because she's not a long-term playable character, it doesn't have that same impact for me personally as Abby or Ellie choosing to break the cycle.
From one of the clips I saw, it does seem like Dinah does wants the cycle to stop and to take care of her child, but because she's not a long-term playable character, it doesn't have that same impact for me personally as Abby or Ellie choosing to break the cycle.
Both posts have really great points.
I'm also a bit ehhhhh in excessively delving into the cycle of violence as a theme in a post-apocalyptic world. On the one hand, I can see that it's important to retain humanity/compassion/empathy when society collapses and seeing if it's possible to rebuild a new society from the ashes, but on the other hand... post-apocalyptic world with fungal zombies. I'm not judging the characters on their moral choices the same way as I would in the world of The Godfather, for example.
I'd forgotten about that game, you're right, lol.
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As far as character switch halfway through the game is concerned, it is lol. The level list posted a few pages back confirms it. Kinda didn't expect this but it's welcomed.
yeah i've been expecting that since the trailer with her. more specifically, i want the part about taking control of her after she kills joel to be true. sounds bold. at least the part of fighting ellie as her is seemingly true
Wouldn't it make more sense for the ending to consist of
Ellie sparing Abby's life? Abby did Ellie wrong by killing Joel (obviously Abby had valid reasons for seeking revenge.) Ellie could continue the cycle by killing Abby or choose to end it. Abby defeating Ellie is just a continuation of her initial revenge scheme. If that makes any sense.
SAME. I know this is gonna piss people off but this shit is infinitely more interesting to me than not. Thematically too, it's super fucking interesting.
Yup
I've said for weeks TLOU 2 still release a June 26th and Ghosts will come out late summer/fall.
Expect announcement from Sony/ND by May 1st.
Question for those who watched the story spoiler stuff.
Are the leaked story parts suggesting something that is going to trigger the alt-right crowd? There already are some people complaining about some rumored stuff. I personally don't care about that kind of stuff myself, but I am wondering if I am going to get more of the anti-SJW Last of Us videos cropping up in my Youtube feeds...I hate Youtube's algorithms. Vague answers appreciated.
Not really. NieR: Automata does a similar thing in Route C though I wouldn't call the character in question "pre-existing" considering it's their debut game.
Wait, what? Who?
Such a brilliant move whoever came up with this idea. I would've never imagined it at all
Naughty Dog are masters in this genre and these general plot points don't do anything to make me doubt their talents. All the other small gameplay details we haven't heard about yet, you know they are going to knock it out of the park. I will say I can't wait to see them get back into more lighthearted content. playing uncharted 4 again and that game just makes me smile ear to ear sometimes.
Personally I do feel this game was delayed far too long for its own good, especially seeing these details are pretty similar to plot beats we got in the first game. Taking out the character progression of course. And then the lack of multiplayer at launch stings a little. But still, overall I'm even more excited for the game's release now.
Personally I do feel this game was delayed far too long for its own good, especially seeing these details are pretty similar to plot beats we got in the first game. Taking out the character progression of course. And then the lack of multiplayer at launch stings a little. But still, overall I'm even more excited for the game's release now.
Not really anything specific but:
that the story seems to be based so heavily around "REVENGE!!!!" makes some of my fears regarding the game's usage of violence worse somewhat. Saying that "cycles of violence kinda suck," is not a thoughtful-enough message to justify the sheer levels of violence we've already seen let alone the stuff that might be in the full game. That's especially true when, due to the setting, the revenge in question is unlikely to have any real significance to the actual cycles-of-violence we often see in the real world.
Not really.
EDIT: At least not any more than they already were by Left Behind.
Not any worth watching. It's just "walk and talk" gameplay. Which isn't bad, but it's still spoiling story points for no real benefit, as you don't get to see the mechanics in action or anything.
Leaker said it is coming out way sooner than people expect.
Amazon had a leak date of June 26th.
Playstation Canada moved GoT release to an August 1st placeholder.
It's happening.
Game will go gold in the next 3 weeks, and Sony will have 5 to 6 weeks to get copies pressed and distributed by the 26th of June.
Good to know, thanks. I'll stay away
Might even try to go on media blackout
Same leaker also said near the end of July so which is it. lol
If the game can be ready for July then it makes no sense for Sony to fuck around with 2 titles and shuffle things around just for the purpose of a month. Ghost can still stay in June and TLOU2 in July.
Yes, absolutely agree. Ellie choosing to spare Abby would be the best outcome, and the most cathartic.
(Spoilers for a Yoko Taro game below.)
Sorry, didn't explain myself well! Other games have indeed done similar before, but I always find it to be such an interesting concept, because it's something you can't do in any other medium as effectively due to player interactivity. NieR: Automata is also a little different in that A2 was mercy killing 2B, so it didn't hurt as much for me personally, whereas Abby killing Joel out of revenge and then having to play as her would be a gut punch.
I saved someone the trouble of spoiling the game for me in twitch chat, youtube thumbnails, or social media, etc. didn't peruse any of the reddit stuff,
I just have one thing to say regarding, that
I fucking called it.
Just the one where youknowwhathappens
I just have one thing to say regarding, that
I fucking called it.
is there a compiled something of all the leaks
all i know so far is
all i know so far is
joel dies and we play as someone else vs ellie
Oh it will, people can't help themselves, they need everyone to know they have more information and will wink wink at how much they know.
Shit, so are we sure this YouTube leaker posting is the originator of these leaks? If so, we would trust his word that
Or could he have ripped the videos from elsewhere/someone else leaked it earlier in the day and he just reuploaded?
Ellie does not die, and the game is 25+ hours to beat
How would he be the only one that uploaded that then? Like only him got those videos from somewhere else and then they were scrubbed from the internet?
I've lost track of if the leaks are coming from different sources or not
My rational isn't financial - it's artistic. TLOU won more game of the year awards then any other game in history (I think) - the game was heralded as the true "game are art" kinda game - serious, mature story, extremely responsive gameplay, superb acting, scene perfect soundtrack- like the stars aligned with the game.
TLOU has been harkened by Druckmann as "The Godfather Part 2" kinda of sequel (before anyone asks for source I'm pretty sure it was an earlier interview that he mentioned that Godfather 2 was the inspiration for the game in terms of scope but finding said interview is gonna take a while - better then the original). Not to mention the hype from the fans.
It's not financial - the game will sell a gazillion copies - but from a reputation standing? I see Sony and ND (more ND then Sony) taking a beating here cause, as I said, if the spoilers are true - it's gonna piss off A LOT of people.
That's what I mean by shitstorm.
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This is exactly what I mean - and I'm not calling Bonefish out here - I'm using his post as the exact example of what I mean.
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