I agree with you about that. Now days I prefer tv over film, since the technology's progressed where the gap between the two has blurred.
We've been taking the MCU as granted.
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I agree with you about that. Now days I prefer tv over film, since the technology's progressed where the gap between the two has blurred.
All hail.
In the MCU's honor, movies shall now be known as "MCU's", as that is the honor which they deserve.
This is a good analogy, it's like Christians still clinging to the idea that they're a persecuted group, why? Because not everyone caters to them or believes the same thing they do. People hate to admit they're the dominant majority, of course they'll take all the perks that come with it while still declaring themselves the small, indie rebels fighting the system.
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X-Men Origins and First Class were clear attempts to step away from the original films after the disaster that was Last Stand.
Mystique's an X-men, for one.
The third movie was critically panned and the next team film was a re-casted "soft reboot"; the MCU just hasn't done that in it's overall narrative building.
Did you stop watching the X-Men movies after First Class? Literally the next movie in the series has the cast from 1-3 in it. If First Class was intended as a reboot they undid that reboot in the sequel.
I see this on Era all the time. MCU Era definitely checks these boxes.
All that was done because as a soft reboot. They didn't "undo" it, they kept the younger cast until the last movie.
Given the box office sales and the four hundred weekly threads these movies continue to have, I'd say a lot of people seem to find the movies compelling.
I should also add that the premise of the video is pretty weak, I don't think people take these films for granted. Even the people that dislike them never shut the fuck up about it.
Cross post but timely comment....
Its already begun Shnurgleton.
Its already begun Shnurgleton.
super succesful
reviews OK
makes lots of money
somehow they are taken for granted
i think this whole MCU persecution thing is the reverse of "release the snyder cut!!" for the mcu
reviews OK
makes lots of money
somehow they are taken for granted
i think this whole MCU persecution thing is the reverse of "release the snyder cut!!" for the mcu
mark my words -- one day they'll find a way to bring Dragon Ball to movie theaters correctly, and it'll be the biggest thing ever.
The Universal films didn't have the characters interacting so much as their apart of the same "world." The X-Men films are a trilogy with a connection to the other trilogy.
I don't see how any of those are anywhere near the level of the MCU. The MCU is absolutely unique in its level of connectivity and expanse.
all the movies are pretty shallow content wise, but character driven
RDJ's charisma elevated the universe and everyone fed off the tone he set. Once he's gone, the MCU will fade off slowly.
RDJ's charisma elevated the universe and everyone fed off the tone he set. Once he's gone, the MCU will fade off slowly.
Fuck, I'd pay premium ticketprices for high-quality live action Gundam movies.
The MCU was everything I hoped to see growing u^p. A big, coherent cinematic universe with many characters interracting (or not) in said universe.
I just wished it was better.
I just wished it was better.
Billions of dollars at the box office.
Adored by millions.
Mountains of essays, videos, and threads singing its praises and analyzing/defending the films.
Damn near every blockbuster and franchise of the last 8 years has been compared to it, usually unfavorably.
"Taken for granted?" Yeah, okay.
Adored by millions.
Mountains of essays, videos, and threads singing its praises and analyzing/defending the films.
Damn near every blockbuster and franchise of the last 8 years has been compared to it, usually unfavorably.
"Taken for granted?" Yeah, okay.
Perhaps, but they are outside Hollywood.
X-men never did ensembles as good as the MCU, never reached the financial or critical heights of the MCU and they have a worse track record in making movies. It's like Russian Roulette with them while with Marvel you know any movie they'll make will be a fun ride.
Which in itself makes them unique in Hollywood.
I think this argument is pretty nonsensical. The MCU is the biggest thing in entertainment right now, barring maybe Game of Thrones.
But lol at comparing the X films to the MCU. Only thing they have in common are they're both comic book properties. Beyond that, the X films are a single franchise that failed to maintain a consistent timeline past the third entry. To the point that their most successful character frequently roasts them about it.
But lol at comparing the X films to the MCU. Only thing they have in common are they're both comic book properties. Beyond that, the X films are a single franchise that failed to maintain a consistent timeline past the third entry. To the point that their most successful character frequently roasts them about it.
I see this aspect constantly brought up though; it's why so many people know Kevin Feige's name for instance. Even outside of the internet I see people talk about the "accomplishment" that the MCU is.
I don't personally find it all that amazing; it's done pretty well but we are talking about fairly shallow characters who mostly don't even lead normal lives that we see and just show up to do superhero things.
Many epic book series manage more, and more in depth characters intertwining in far more complex ways.
So while the MCU is cool... it's just a series of superhero films in the end, with characters who crack jokes within minutes of watching their loved one's die... I don't know about "mindless" but these movies aren't terribly mindful.
I don't personally find it all that amazing; it's done pretty well but we are talking about fairly shallow characters who mostly don't even lead normal lives that we see and just show up to do superhero things.
Many epic book series manage more, and more in depth characters intertwining in far more complex ways.
So while the MCU is cool... it's just a series of superhero films in the end, with characters who crack jokes within minutes of watching their loved one's die... I don't know about "mindless" but these movies aren't terribly mindful.
Cumulatively over the years? Of course.
Biggest thing at present, though? Nah, though Pokemon is undoubtedly up there.
...Universal is Hollywood. Unless he was talking about Hammer Horror.
Financial success isn't important. Is Avatar the greatest movie of all time because it grossed the most?
Thor: The Dark World
If anything, it is the opposite. The amount of discussion and attention given to these films is way out of proportion to what they deserve.
Aside from Mistique (who is a shape-shifter btw), Who was recasted in the Xmen after last stand? (not to mention they recasted Hulk in the MCU) Magento and Professor X were shown to reprise their role in Xmen Days of our future past alongside Scott Summers and Jean Gray, and all the while in the original Xmen trilogy it was never shown that Mystique was never an Xmen, at best you can say it was reckoned, just like they reckoned the infinity gauntlet in the MCU.
Yes, while First Class is sort of trying to part ways from Last stands awfulness, but they also kept it in the same universe taking liberties with a backstory we were never really showed.like originally SG stated that MCU just have done it better than previous franchises have tried to, including the Xmen.
So they brought back the cast and explicitly positioned First Class as happening before the first three movies because it was a reboot. Got it.
It was weird when they rebooted Star Wars with The Phantom Menace too.
I meant the Toho kanji films, the Universal monster movies were definitely an earlier attempt to what Marvel's doing. In this respect the MCU modernised their idea, except using super-heroes instead of monsters.
Financial success is a key to being important, but the MCU has left a cultural footprint larger than Avatar.
Not sure what you mean? Like it is still a franchise in the present. Go made 800m last year. Let's Go sold 10 million copies. The TCG and anime are still going strong. Detective Pikachu and Sword and Shield are out this year. PokƩmon is the biggest entertainment franchise in the world, it's made the most money and somehow just keeps trucking along making even more money even when people ignore it or think it's a fad. Not that I'm saying youre doing that or calling it that.
I didn't say it wasn't a franchise at present.
I said I don't think it's a bigger property than the MCU is at this moment in time, while arguing it'd undoubtedly be up there. My meaning was clear.
PokƩmon exists in this moment of time and it exists as a bigger franchise than the MCU.
Fuck this video's premise.
Consumers are literally in the midst of cinematic movie history with Endgame releasing soon.
What the MCU has done & is still doing is unprecedented in film.
Consumers are literally in the midst of cinematic movie history with Endgame releasing soon.
What the MCU has done & is still doing is unprecedented in film.
As an earner cumulatively over the years, yes.
Is it currently more popular/the bigger earner between the two? No, I don't think so.
That's it. That's all I said. We disagree. It's ok.
So I just rewatched Infinity War as I'm seeing Endgame today and let me tell you, I fucking cannot stand the "No stakes!!!" arguments about this one.
Here are the following emotional moments that people seem to just glance over:
- Thor watches his brother, best friend, and half his race die, which results in him having PTSD, shaking as he begins crying in front of Rocket to get his new hammer
-Scarlet Witch kills Vision, as he says "You can never hurt me. Its ok. Its ok." and she proceeds to blow him up....only for her to watch him have his brain ripped out of his head after being revived by Thanos. That's some heavy shit. She had to kill the love of her life for nothing.
-Spider-Man, a fucking child, feels himself dying and tries desperately to stave off death, crying how much he doesn't want to go
And then half of the universe dies. That's rough and to just toss it all away by saying "Oh whatever they'll be back."
Here are the following emotional moments that people seem to just glance over:
- Thor watches his brother, best friend, and half his race die, which results in him having PTSD, shaking as he begins crying in front of Rocket to get his new hammer
-Scarlet Witch kills Vision, as he says "You can never hurt me. Its ok. Its ok." and she proceeds to blow him up....only for her to watch him have his brain ripped out of his head after being revived by Thanos. That's some heavy shit. She had to kill the love of her life for nothing.
-Spider-Man, a fucking child, feels himself dying and tries desperately to stave off death, crying how much he doesn't want to go
And then half of the universe dies. That's rough and to just toss it all away by saying "Oh whatever they'll be back."
I think he needs to learn the meaning of "taking for granted".
It's the most successful movie franchise in history.
It's the most successful movie franchise in history.
That's just one franchise.
The MCU is multiple franchises under a larger franchise.
Also, James Bond movies were fairly standalone with limited continuity between them, at least prior to the Daniel Craig movies.
Thank you.
The Feige/MCU worship is getting a little nutty around here. Have some people in another thread saying he's better than Kathleen Kennedy.
I still can't wait for Endgame*
I find the MCU to be a fantastic achievement in film making. It's amazing how they pulled off multiple movies and TV shows, all connected in the same universe, over 10+ years, with the quality remaining as high as it has and the scale it's grown to.
As a comic book fan, it's been amazing seeing these characters come to life on the big screen, in big budget blockbuster movies and has been better than I ever imagined. Can't think of any long running movie series that has done it as well as the MCU.
Disney and Marvel Studio's deserves all the success it's had so far.
As a comic book fan, it's been amazing seeing these characters come to life on the big screen, in big budget blockbuster movies and has been better than I ever imagined. Can't think of any long running movie series that has done it as well as the MCU.
Disney and Marvel Studio's deserves all the success it's had so far.
