Call me cynical and/or paranoid but I think that phrasing and what you're doing could be a mistake, even when it's in quotes. I feel the intention to recommend alternatives is good, but I don't believe anyone should be put on a pedestal like you seem to imply. I operate under the assumption that anyone could turn out to be a scumbag at any moment, especially on the internet. It's nice to think better of and feel as comfortable as you can be in these parasocial relationships with Youtubers we're in, but the truth is you never know. Look at all the quibbles people have with different creators just here. I guess to be warier and expect less purity is what I'm trying to suggest in short.
No, your concern is definitely valid. I don't mean to hold anyone up as "perfect"; merely to highlight people who are "publicly pretty blameless, so far as I know, at this particular moment in time". I intend to make that distinction very clear in the thread. It is, I think, a positive and pro-social thing to try and "assume the best in others"; however, internet entertainers are not your friends. And even if they were, they are still other people, with their own unknowable motivations; at bottom, you cannot 'truly know' anyone 100% besides yourself.
To be frank, this is an unreasonable request. Content creators don't owe you the intimate details of their relationships.
Okay, this might explain why he's gotten rid of DoodLoen emote. Max for the most part doesn't really seem that phobic of most things. He's also not really racist considering two of his closest stream friends are black and JaeJae is Asian (granted yes I know the alt-right fetishizes Asian people). Though based on what I remember from his story about how they met they love each other, they even play Monster Hunter together and she helped him get over his fear of dogs so I think that's a legit relationship. I think he can be a bit dumb at times, but Max seems mostly harmless regarding social issues. Edit: Dived into that thread to see what was going on and someone really needs to educate Max about his T word usage. I'd like to hope to think he's intelligent enough to learn from that.
I'd recommend VoidBurger (streams, let's plays) and Bob Vids (streams, lps, scripted content), and their Silent Hill channel, the Grate Debate.
BSAA Jill (not wetsuit) is honestly her best look.I hate jump suit Jill. These are the best Jill's:
I don't mind Revelations Jill minus what they did to her face. Whenever I hear jump suit Jill I just think of blonde RE5 chest exposed Jill...gross.
Jill is fabulous when they don't try to fan service her up.
That's very close to what Aya Brea wears I think.
rip jill's ending costume that actually looks vaguely like something a cop would wear
And I don't owe a content creator a view who considers literal human filth like Cumia good company. I suggest you go look up Anthony Cumia.
I thought it would be a relevant query to pose here, given the stated purpose of this thread in providing a space for discussion of aspects and elements of the industry that are or aren't positive for women and other groups. I didn't mean to derail or sideline any more direct and important conversations on these topics though.
Didn't you also wanted to make a list of game developers who you found problematic in order to shame them (your words, not mine) after the Catherine fiasco (which admittedly was indeed a fiasco)? You do like your lists.
There is no point in demanding answers from or berating women who have dated scumbags in the past about why they dated said scumbags. The fact that she's removed all of that part of her life from her digital presence is enough to know that it's probably a source of regret for her, possibly a source of pain or trauma. By all means, avoid her content if you wish, but you aren't owed the intimate details of a stranger's personal life.
You're absolutely right here. I was being inconsiderate and in my quest of avoiding problematic Youtubers it clearly gave me some serious tunnel-vision.
No hard feelings, but this is why 'guilt by association' is a dangerous road to go down. Always helps to remember that internet personalities are people too, and everyone has sources of regret in their life. You don't owe anyone views, but they don't owe you anything either.
No problem, though I would caution against this kind of 'purity test' attitude towards content creators, especially if it involves past behavior that no longer reflects the current person or their content.
The thread about Youtubers is my idea, so don't blame ASaiyan for it. I reached out to him because I am a horrible writer. In fact, under me it was just going to be a simple list thread cause, again, I'm a terrible writer and that's all I could think of. But under ASaiyan it became so much more. It isn't a list thread, but an actual discussion talking about problematic content creators while detailing the actions of some. The thread isn't meant to be a toxic one, which is why ASaiyan is collecting Youtubers here, to give people alternatives.
I don't know if I ever talked about just drawing up a "list" of problematic developers. I don't think that would be helpful or useful. However, I do think there are important conversations to have (and that indeed, have already been had) about the specific public actions of some specific creators - like Hashino, Vavra, the Last Night guy, and others.
I appreciate this feedback. I have at various times been told I was being "too lenient" in specific situations, and "too harsh" in others. It's a constant balancing act that I always seem to get a little bit wrong and need some adjustment on :P. It is important to me that the thread only comes across as providing examples of bad behavior, and examples of individuals who generally engage in positive behavior, rather than any definitive "bright lines" or "gatekeeping" behavior. But, reading these kinds of constructive critiques before even posting the thread, I'm definitely gonna go back over it and adjust anything that may not fully live up to this mission. So I definitely appreciate the help :)
The Saints Row games in are also pretty great at this. They're super dumb, but it's a smart kind of dumb.gotta give props to the unlikeliest game, one that I'm quite into atm (it's not very good btw, this isnt a REVIEWS WERE WRONG thing), Agents of Mayhem.
It's roster is super diverse both in gender and race.
From left to right: Asian dude, white dude, indian lady, black dude, white lady, black dude, latina lady, white dude, white lady, iranian lady, black lady, white dude. And a part from Daisy's short shorts, the ladies arent particularly sexed up either imo. Neat.
Yeah but the Saints Row games are dumb in the same way Independence Day is dumb:
Kudos to the diversity but man is the art style of that game so unappealing reminds me of fortnite or some mobile game.gotta give props to the unlikeliest game, one that I'm quite into atm (it's not very good btw, this isnt a REVIEWS WERE WRONG thing), Agents of Mayhem.
It's roster is super diverse both in gender and race.
From left to right: Asian dude, white dude, indian lady, black dude, white lady, black dude, latina lady, white dude, white lady, iranian lady, black lady, white dude. And a part from Daisy's short shorts, the ladies arent particularly sexed up either imo. Neat.
rip jill's ending costume that actually looks vaguely like something a cop would wear
To be fair, I like crow's head Jill more. But jumpsuit Jill gets credit for Sad But True (her fight music). RE5 had a super-underrated soundtrack....
I suppose you're right. I also have to add in that I'm biased, cuz I'm personally not crazy about the tubetop's fashion aesthetic, and I make no logical argument for such sentiment. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
RE5 was a big drop-off as a successor to RE4; but I argue to this day that it was an incredibly fun game in its own right. I spent so many hours playing co-op, Mercenaries mode, and trophy-hunting.
Yeah, it's going for a very corny 80's GI Joe style in pretty much every aspect, or at least as close to that as they could get with the Saints Row engine. I find it adorkable but I totally get why it's off-putting to most.
What's so great about it to me is that most of the characters are pretty well fleshed out. You get a good sense of what type of person not just from the wiki information you can find out about them, but from they way each one is introduced in their opening missions, how any of them will interact with Persephone and the other agents, various things they have to say about the world as you go around, and also from the highly unique character animations and move set each person has. A lot of love went into all of the characters, because these are the characters Volition wanted to make, not just felt like they had to. And besides maybe Oni, Hollywood and Kingpin, they're not very common archetypes either.gotta give props to the unlikeliest game, one that I'm quite into atm (it's not very good btw, this isnt a REVIEWS WERE WRONG thing), Agents of Mayhem.
It's roster is super diverse both in gender and race.
From left to right: Asian dude, white dude, indian lady, black dude, white lady, black dude, latina lady, white dude, white lady, iranian lady, black lady, white dude. And a part from Daisy's short shorts, the ladies arent particularly sexed up either imo. Neat.
I still maintain that RE5 is one of the best co-op games ever made.
