Why women criticise sexualised character designs |OT2| I have no pants and I must scream (READ OP)
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Yes I saw that, but the inferences are pretty overt. Aliya is a typical Muslim girl's name. She wears Hijab. Still a pretty big deal if you ask me.
Gee, that sounds an awful lot like idol culture, which is in no way toxic or dehumanising!!!!!
Kait Diaz in Gears 5 is brown Latina(at least I think so, and plenty of others do). And she doesn't resort to an accent or stereotypes.
There a lot of yikes in this. Also, besides being anti-fem, it pretty bad they use mental disability as a way to insult.
Doesn't help today I just learned a bunch of v tubers said the n word
White guys that have fantastical views of Asian women would be disappointed to learn that most Asian women think they are creeps and losers just like the western women do.
I hate that image even more because lately I've been watching content from the vtuber on the right (Inugami Korone) and she's pretty funny. Her playthroughs of Doom 64 and DOOM 2016 are really fun because she gets into them so much. She loves killing demons and using big guns.
I'm sure most of their fans are creepy as shit, tho
I'm sure most of their fans are creepy as shit, tho
What a disturbing and insensitive idea for a game considering how much shit female streamers get.
The core concept of just a choose your adventure game with a streamer has potential, but not like that. It would be better to go the super natural route like unfriended. Like they slowly get paranormal stuff in their house through out the game and mod/chat has to try to help them somehow, but could mess things up.
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I did not expect the Era thread on that Nintendo Waifu game to go down like it is. Jiminy, some people are dense. And some people are coming into the thread to purposefully stir shit up.
One thing I notice browsing the ol' eShop is that, for every otaku-bait game, there's just as many adventure/puzzle/hidden object games focused around female protagonists. They have much better art than your average waifu trash, too! And yet no one ever talks about them.
I find it interesting, I guess, because it goes to show how skewed the discourse around video games is.
I find it interesting, I guess, because it goes to show how skewed the discourse around video games is.
I like the guy who is like "why do i have to play morality police?"
Like, the ultimate white lib/centrist take. "It doesn't affect me at all so it's not really a problem"
This might be the most disturbing thing posted in this thread yet. How is this a thing?
Idk what I was expecting but it ended up being so much worse
Sure, lots. Aloy is sexy, Ellie is sexy, and your avatar is pretty sexy. Sexy is not the same thing as "only purpose is to titillate"; it's about all sorts of things from appearance to attitude to personality traits. The problem with most of the offenders brought up in this thread are the characters who are primarily designed to titillate. There really isn't much other reason for the way they're designed, and it detracts from their characterization.
Often it has less to do with what a female character looks like than whether or not their appearance is appropriate for the setting they are in and their occupation. Too often the who, what, when, where, why aspects of a female character are tertiary to "does she look fuckable". Sexy characters are fine, but if you have a cast of soldiers and all of the men are wearing military fatigues and the woman is wearing camo fishnets, there is something wrong.
The long and short of it is that there is a time and place for sexy, and it's usually not when the video game is taking place.
That's not to say you should stick to realism at all costs, but at least make an attempt at designing the character for the context they're in.
I think there's a certain casual audience that eats those games up but I haven't personally met anyone who does. Those are the games you used to (or maybe still) find sold in CD-ROM jewel cases at Wal-Mart. They're pretty comm on on Steam too. I guess it makes sense they'd get released on Switch too, assuming they're played by young girls or whatever.
Definitely agree that what one considers sexy is subjective ofc. I think designs that make sense in context aren't as bad as ones that are just there to get men drooling. As everyone has pointed out, bikini armor never makes any sense lol
And yea, I love Abby and Ellie. Dina as well. Hell even Chloe and Nadine are sexy imo but ND in general has done a good job with female characters.
The game looks creepy as fuck. According to the developer it was co written by the actress and she improvised all the dialog and the game should make people aware of toxicity and the impact there online comments have on other people, but I can't see much of that in the trailer.
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I love Lady Masako and Yuna, they both look so good. I think Lady Masako is my favorite character so far in Ghost of Tsushima.
She's also voiced by white actress who isn't Latina (Laura Bailey). Also speaking of Ghost of Tsushima, I'm glad all the voice actors in the english dub are asian. White people doing accented english would've been such a bad mistake.
The characters I find most sexy are generally fully clothed anyway.
Elena from Uncharted
Aloy from Horizon
Jill from Resident Evil 3 Remake
But then I like their personalities as well as art design which make a big difference to me personally. Even without that there are plenty that are still sexy and stylish visually without being objectifying or demeaning.
Problem is there are far too many the other direction....
Well according to Imdb its not all. Some minor npcs are voice acted by non asians. Which is fair I guess, the overwhelming majority seem to be.
Would be funny if the one you're thinking of were non american asians or asian americans faking accents, haha.
Same. Sadie and Abigail from RDR2 are both very attractive women without being eye candy. Its ironic too considering how GTA treats women unfortunately.
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Question: when this thread (inevitably, I think) reaches OT3 ,would people be down for a rebranding into general feminist discussion of video games, intersecting with LGBT rep etc? I see a lot of that here and I don't want people to feel constrained by the thread title because we've long moved past that (and of course sexualised designs would fall under the "feminist discussion" umbrella).
Yea, that very well might be the case. There were a couple of super minor NPCs that just sounded... American.
There definitely are, some of the ones people already said. I think reboot Lara croft is one, especially in SotTR, even though I didn't really like the game.
I think that's a good idea, especially as there's not really anywhere else in the gaming section to discuss such things without creating a thread for whatever specific concern there is and those kind of threads tend to go to bad places fast and can be exhausting. I'd be happy for making this place a more obvious safe space for that discussion as it's has been for the regular posters who would be more comfortable using it outside sexualised design discussion.
That's probably a good idea, it opens up the discussion to beyond just showing awful sexist character designs. Stuff like lgbt elements in tlou2 can be talked about, just as an example.
Well most of them are americans. You take up the accent you grow up with.
Your inkling could still be right. Just saying that there are gemans with asian roots or black skined german that have bavarian or saxon accents and you wouldnt have any clue.
Btw. sorry for being a bit off topic.
Makes sense as a lot of conversation here covers those aspects already.
SFV in general is a mixed bag when it comes it its women. On one hand, I appreciate how it makes its ladies actually muscular. But on the other hand, there should be more body type diversity & the sexualization needs to be toned down. Hopefully with a woman now being the head of Capcom's fighting game division (Yuasa) instead of Ono, these changes can happen. Then again, Female Byleth was designed by a woman, &........yeah.
The statue on the right looks painful - like her breasts are desperately trying to get away from each other like repelling magnets. Also they look less like breasts and more like a mix of olive and party balloon. But yeah, sure, guys, the muscular woman is more unrealistic. /s
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A lot of misogynists out there who are ok with objectification or whatever the hell is going on in the right.
Based on anime and those style games that make bank, I guess a lot.
Once a cup size becomes the norm, artists have to go one higher to stand out from the crowd.
Eventually, waifus will look like something out of Dark Souls.
Yep, definitely a lot. The most confusing part is these people display the statues proudly in their home. It's just wild to me that they think it's perfectly acceptable as grown adults (assuming they are anyway since those statues can be expensive af).
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