And people didn't believe me 👀Endgame 3.85M and Pikachu 3.1M via Charlie
https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/27781-wednesday-516-early-estimates/
And people didn't believe me 👀Endgame 3.85M and Pikachu 3.1M via Charlie
https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/27781-wednesday-516-early-estimates/
"No good movie is too long, and no bad movie is short enough."
-Roger Ebert
Under 90 is secretly the bestWith Endgame being as long as it is, I can't imagine seeing it more than once in the theater. I was pretty forgiving of its length since it needed to wrap up multiple character arcs and it moved at a pretty brisk pace.
TRUTH: Perfect movie length is 90min - 2 hours.
BP played as long as it did because its legs warranted it, you can't say the same for Endgame.
Jeez, what a waste.Some people have been buying up tickets on Fandango just to support it.
And Endgame has no direct competition during the week yet keeps falling behind. It might be flat with IW this weekend at best, but so far every single day is pointing to it coming under.I expect Thursday drop to be subdued and Endgame to pick up against IW this weekend. At this period of time IW was facing Deadpool 2. I expect JW3 to do over $55m, but it isn't direct competition like DP2 was.
You still thinking it's hitting 3B or beating TFAI expect Thursday drop to be subdued and Endgame to pick up against IW this weekend. At this period of time IW was facing Deadpool 2. I expect JW3 to do over $55m, but it isn't direct competition like DP2 was.
I really really wanna see the math for that.
It's a 3 hours film. You are looking to the film without taking in consideration how good these drops are compared to last Thursday, for example.And Endgame has no direct competition during the week yet keeps falling behind. It might be flat with IW this weekend at best, but so far every single day is pointing to it coming under.
With a possible re-release? Yes. Without it? Nope.
So a rerelease is going to generate 200-300M WW and probably more than 80M domestic?
You mean those good Thursday holds that are not as strong as IW Thursday holds? That is all I ask since you are implying that somehow this is going to increase instead of continuing to drop.It's a 3 hours film. You are looking to the film without taking in consideration how good these drops are compared to last Thursday, for example.
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/showdowns/chart/?view=daily&id=avengersvstarwars.htm
A film with that much of demand in the first weekend was bound for big drops in the first three weeks. If you look at how the drops are going, you will see that the film is indeed stabilizing. It might not go for my pipe dream of beating TFA domestic, but that's a holiday film with appeal to a more older demographic than Marvel films at this period of time.
It's okay, because this is bound to top Avatar as the biggest film of all time at the box office, regardless if it beats by an inch.
Re-releases of recent films don't result in any notable box office increases anymore. It would be rounding error type of numbers. People do not care to go see recent movies again in theaters like that anymore. Especially post-3D boom.
I think the difference domestic will end to be a little tighter. I still have Endgame pegged to end around $860m+.So a rerelease is going to generate 200-300M WW and probably more than 80M domestic?
Yes, these drops. Watch the jumps for Endgame to top IW this weekend.You mean those good Thursday holds that are not as strong as IW Thursday holds? That is all I ask since you are implying that somehow this is going to increase instead of continuing to drop.
So a rerelease is going to hit 70mill+ domestic? And hundreds of millions to hit 3B?I think the difference domestic will end to be a little tighter. I still have Endgame pegged to end around $860m+.
That depends on several factors, and I will let them play out for us now. Over Avatar is definitely happening, the rest let's wait and see.
Maybe they'll leave the re-release in theaters for the next 5 years.So a rerelease is going to hit 70mill+ domestic? And hundreds of millions to hit 3B?
Once again, that depends on what kind of re-release they do... Or not. We don't even know if they would be game for that. Let's see how it plays out. Historically, it happened with Titanic before. Unlikely? Sure. Impossible? Nope.So a rerelease is going to hit 70mill+ domestic? And hundreds of millions to hit 3B?
That ship sailed long ago.I'm not even sure Endgame will be at 900 million domestic at this rate.
2019 is completely different than in 1997. There isn't a domestic market for recent film re-releases anymore to any sort of notable extent.Once again, that depends on what kind of re-release they do... Or not. We don't even know if they would be game for that. Let's see how it plays out. Historically, it happened with Titanic before. Unlikely? Sure. Impossible? Nope.
That's a shame, I guess 850 will probably be the max, or 830 for that matter.
Whatever it takes.3B train derailed
1B DOM train derailed
Above TFA DOM train derailed
Above Avatar WW train barely staying on the tracks
I wonder who thought that.=O3B train derailed
1B DOM train derailed
Above TFA DOM train derailed
Above Avatar WW train barely staying on the tracks
But it is still on the tracks, but the coal is running low.3B train derailed
1B DOM train derailed
Above TFA DOM train derailed
Above Avatar WW train barely staying on the tracks
The post above you.
Titanic releasing while the 3D market was hot is not even close to being the same context as a rerelease of Endgame. You really think there's a logical way it can rerelease and make up around 250-300M WW? What is going to put up those numbers? "I don't know" is not a good answer if you're claiming 936M/3B is still in the cards.Once again, that depends on what kind of re-release they do... Or not. We don't even know if they would be game for that. Let's see how it plays out. Historically, it happened with Titanic before. Unlikely? Sure. Impossible? Nope.
Oh wow. I never thought it would get passed TFA, but holy crap!
Yep, it will be only the second movie ever to hit 800m domestic. That's a huge huge huge win. No need to get greedy about it doing 900m.Even getting to 800M domestic is great. Zatt you should be happy about that atleast
The film did amazingly beyond all expectations train already arrived3B train derailed
1B DOM train derailed
Above TFA DOM train derailed
Above Avatar WW train barely staying on the tracks
Titanic 3D re-release was also nearly 15 years later to boot.Titanic releasing while the 3D market was hot is not even close to being the same context as a rerelease of Endgame. You really think there's a logical way it can rerelease and make up around 250-300M WW? What is going to put up those numbers? "I don't know" is not a good answer if you're claiming 936M/3B is still in the cards.
Happy? I'm over the moon with these numbers. The Avengers became the single franchise to actually grow after hitting $2B WW and it's bound to top the highest grossing film of all time. That's not an easy feat at all.Even getting to 800M domestic is great. Zatt you should be happy about that atleast
Yeah I don't see nothing touching that record for at least the next 5 years. Then maybe inflation might make that possible.The film did amazingly beyond all expectations train already arrived
Think the opening took a lot of people by storm. Something had to give in terms of legs
TFA DOM record looks to be one to stand for a thousand generations
It's a 3 hours film. You are looking to the film without taking in consideration how good these drops are compared to last Thursday, for example.
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/showdowns/chart/?view=daily&id=avengersvstarwars.htm
A film with that much of demand in the first weekend was bound for big drops in the first three weeks. If you look at how the drops are going, you will see that the film is indeed stabilizing. It might not go for my pipe dream of beating TFA domestic, but that's a holiday film with appeal to a more older demographic than Marvel films at this period of time.
It's okay, because this is bound to top Avatar as the biggest film of all time at the box office, regardless if it beats by an inch.
ShhTFA holiday is offset by Endgames massive opening. I wouldn't keep using that to defend Endgames drops when TFA had crazy legs on days/weeks that weren't holidays.
You know I'm going to save this and use it against you right? <3
TFA holiday is offset by Endgames massive opening. I wouldn't keep using that to defend Endgames drops when TFA had crazy legs on days/weeks that weren't holidays.
And in the end those tiny daily victories will mean nothing because it will still lose in overall domestic gross. So why does it matter?I disagree with that notion. TFA had a lot of things going for it: nostalgia of the OG trilogy being the most important of them. I never said that TFA run was nothing short of absolutely incredible, both dom and os.
With that said, look at the numbers and how close they are now to Endgame compared with last weekdays numbers.
I don't think Endgame will beat TFA at all, but I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if Endgame sometime from now starts beating TFA dailies. It's a lot closer now than it was last week.
That would be kinda sad TBH since it has to make money in June too.They're saying on the box office subreddit that Endgame isn't even going to hit 2.7b.
If that's true, yikes. Avatar could possibly have a 100m lead over it, once it's all said and done.
It's not about "victories", my point still stands. All you need to look how holiday season numbers influenced TFA dailies is to compare:And in the end those tiny daily victories will mean nothing because it will still lose in overall domestic gross. So why does it matter?
They, whoever they are, are incredibly wrong. Use BOT for more reliable BO analysis.They're saying on the box office subreddit that Endgame isn't even going to hit 2.7b.
If that's true, yikes. Avatar could possibly have a 100m lead over it, once it's all said and done.
It's over 2.5b now and it has around 100m left domestically and more than that abroad.They're saying on the box office subreddit that Endgame isn't even going to hit 2.7b.
If that's true, yikes. Avatar could possibly have a 100m lead over it, once it's all said and done.