Does inside shenanigans equal more NBA viewers? Sucks to lose jokes and memes but not sure what it does for the brand of NBA
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WSJ: NBC Prepares $2.5-Billion-a-Year Bid to Pluck NBA Rights From TNT
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I don't know if there's a perfect quantifiable way to know. I guess halftime ratings/lead in ratings?
I could be completely wrong but im of the opinion that the NBA needs a makeover to how its product is marketed and that stuff like Inside and ESPN talking heads don't do them any favors. Unfortunately that won't really happen as ESPN is still in the drivers seat for them but I can't think of a sport where greatness is appreciated less than the way the NBA is covered and perceived by media/fans. It's like its media conditions fans to have this adversarial relationship with the sport and players.
Didn't he say before that he offered it to ABC and ESPN and both turned him down?
Is it how the NBA presents itself or how ESPN manages their halftime show? TNT at least tries to have some analysis, ESPN doesn't even try, I guess counting on real fans to watch the dedicated NBA show where Lowe and company reside.
As far as ratings go, I'm already a fan but I'm far more likely to watch a game on TNT than on ESPN just because I like the TNT presentation a lot better. What that means for casual fans though, I have no idea.
It must have been because I searched for it on Sunday and couldn't find it.
I think the hyper-fixation on rings has been a real problem. It diminishes the regular season and the majority of stars for no real benefit. Any number of regular season NFL games beat the highest-rated Finals game in a given year. The nature of basketball is that three of the top five guys are going to have seven or eight rings between them each decade, so why isn't the league doing everything it can to keep fans of the other 25-27 teams engaged?
Well the real way to do that is to have less games. Regular season gets exciting after the All Star break because teams start to get serious, the trade deadline has passed, wins and losses start to matter because time is running out, teams want to avoid the play-in... it gets very competitive. It's great! The final day of games this season was insane, like 14 teams didn't have their final standing decided going into the last day.
Only problem is you have the 60 games before that, which mean absolutely fuck all. No one cares about random January regular season NBA game # 42/82. Game where superstar might not even be playing due to load management or injury. This is the era of content, when you have 7 billion things you can watch on Netflix at any given time, who's going to spend 3 hours watching some random meaningless regular season NBA game?
But with less games, the NBA ain't getting 3 partners to pay $2.5 billion a year for their product. So it's not an option. I think the regular season viewership will continue to slide, while "important" games like the playoffs and possibly the in season tournament will creep up.
Who at ESPN, Amazon or NBC is going to bring this kind of heat?
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Yeah, my interest in NBA regular season games in general has plummeted in recent years because of how meaningless they've become and the clear difference in how a regular season game comes off versus a playoff game. That difference just seems more pronounced in the NBA compared to other sports leagues imo
It is a fair comparison given that the ratings gap is growing.
It's the one league that would genuinely benefit from less games played, but they won't ever do it because 💰
This is the case for literally every sport and tv show though in terms of ratings
In most markets I'd think the local viewership mainly wants to follow the home team, and in a lot of places these are now paywalled behind cable or streaming. So for a long time, for instance, I couldn't watch the Dodgers because of Spectrum not dealing with DirecTV, and those were the formative years for my kids so they didn't watch either.
This makes me wonder why the WNBA doesn't market the fact that they have way less games as a benefit, because every game does matter more. Maybe in the Clark era they will.
This makes me wonder why the WNBA doesn't market the fact that they have way less games as a benefit, because every game does matter more. Maybe in the Clark era they will.
It's just the better "TV" sport. Once a week, small number of games, single game elimination playoffs.
I don't get why the owners want more games. Well I get it, money. But it's too many games.
Lets have one of our broadcast partners have an entire recurring segment where they make fun of all the current players and then wonder why newer audiences don't find current players likable and don't care to tune in to watch them in the regular season.
Of course they do. One of many reasons for the popularity of the show you're trying to downplay the significance of.
Yes it's very popular. I don't think that was ever in question. Its a very popular show that appeals to people who enjoy hearing Charles Barkley speak.
Apparently a bunch of those people are Emmy voters. It's a good show regardless of if you find Chuck funny.
Has anyone ever actually met a person who said "I would watch the NBA but there's just too many games."
Saw this on Reddit, apparently from Bill Simmons podcast:
I'm sad as hell to see Inside the NBA end. Even if Chuck, Shaq and Kenny keep working together, it will never be the same without Ernie.
I'm sad as hell to see Inside the NBA end. Even if Chuck, Shaq and Kenny keep working together, it will never be the same without Ernie.
Figured they will save it till the end of playoffs for TNT or up fronts today
Every other sport they have, except maybe hockey. Which isn't much. He anchors their golf stuff.
it's been reported by numerous different outlets that Ernie would be staying at TNT regardless of what happens with the NBA rights. Ernie doesn't just cover the NBA, though obviously he is most known for the NBA compared to everything else.
I'm less concerned about getting 100% of the team back and more concerned with how much time the cast is given to cook if it transitions to NBC.
Inside is what it is not just because of the crew but because it gets a generous amount of airtime for halftime, post game, etc. That stuff isn't necessarily a given. ESPN would rather fill the time with ads for example.
Inside is what it is not just because of the crew but because it gets a generous amount of airtime for halftime, post game, etc. That stuff isn't necessarily a given. ESPN would rather fill the time with ads for example.
I was concerned about that as well but NBC owns USA, right? I'd think they would give them time to cook there.
I don't see it. It's just a different type of show. I really don't like the comparison because it's a completely different philosophy.
I think the show is dead.
You need one guy who you forget won a ring in every sports panel.
The Howie Long of the group
ESPN has tried to recreate the formula for over a decade and failed. What they have now is basically unwatchable.
But it's not the same type of show. ESPN would never allow the off topic stuff.
End of an era. Chuck made a joke the other night that made it seem like the deal was done too. Something like "aint like we can get fired."
ESPN would do whatever they could for ratings. Especially now that they're going to be a full on subscription service.
It makes sense. Sports are one of the few things linear TV has going.
ESPN/ABC locked the Finals, sacrificing a chunk of their games. (They give up Fridays, Saturday Special)
ernie would be a huge blow, but if NBC can get barkley and kenny, and less so shaq...it will still be a great show. barkely is essential. just get him with the right people
