We already knew Kurt would be main cast eventually, so that wasn't a big surprise even if it made me grin.
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X-Men '97 |OT| Previously On... (Disney+, two episode premiere on March 20)
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We already knew Kurt would be main cast eventually, so that wasn't a big surprise even if it made me grin.
Not necessarily. Though I mean if you want to be technical, Bastion is Nimrod and Master Mold fused together, just covering themselves with fake flesh.
So you could argue that if Bastion is the villain of the finale, then Nimrod is kind of that too?
New episodes come out Wednesday, in the late night/early morning. Could be 12AM EDT. Not sure the exact time.
Yup another good one and never thought I'd say Ororo in her classic black costume.
Also yay Nightcrawler gets his own intro card. I once again can hope that the intro is updated with a special guest hero as well.
Still stings to not see Remy in the intro.
Also yay Nightcrawler gets his own intro card. I once again can hope that the intro is updated with a special guest hero as well.
Still stings to not see Remy in the intro.
With Xavier learning about Genosha, I thought they were setting up the early stages for
Onslaught
They very well might be. Once he finds out Mags is dead, all bets are off.
I have a feeling Magneto isn't truly dead. I fear Gambit may be the main one whose death is kinda confirmed.
They very noticeably *did not* show Magneto's death in the "last time" preview or even allude to it in this episode, so I think they're specifically avoiding dealing with it until next week, to fuel this kind of speculation. I don't think he'll be shown to be alive for the rest of the season, though.
Episode 6 Lifedeath Pt.2 really sets up so many branching storylines, I'm actually curious which direction they're going to go.
At least as far as Xavier & The Shi'ar are going.
It's interesting that they're doing Shi'ar stuff right after the Genoshan genocide, because during Grant Morrison's run on 'New X-Men', Lilandra was on the run with the Starjammers from the Shi'ar empire. Lots of things happen here, but the scene this week where Deathbird is criticising Lilandra for being with a lowly Terran is pretty key foreshadowing because she later weds a 'Terran' and uses him to usurp the throne of the Shi'ar empire.
You know what? They're totally working their way up to the assassination of Lilandra, aren't they?
Oh that would be tragic to see in animation.
Wow, I think they're really going there. There was absolutely no reason to involve any Shi'ar storyline otherwise. Especially in this time-space.
Also as far as earth is concerned, the point about other nations in the world refusing to accept returning mutant refugees after the attack & leaving them with no home, leads me to believe they might try the Utopia saga, maybe? That would be awesome and is imo some of the best Cyclops characterisation the character has ever had in comic book history.
Where else are these mutants going to go except the fallen Asteroid M floating in the ocean.
At least as far as Xavier & The Shi'ar are going.
It's interesting that they're doing Shi'ar stuff right after the Genoshan genocide, because during Grant Morrison's run on 'New X-Men', Lilandra was on the run with the Starjammers from the Shi'ar empire. Lots of things happen here, but the scene this week where Deathbird is criticising Lilandra for being with a lowly Terran is pretty key foreshadowing because she later weds a 'Terran' and uses him to usurp the throne of the Shi'ar empire.
You know what? They're totally working their way up to the assassination of Lilandra, aren't they?
Oh that would be tragic to see in animation.
Wow, I think they're really going there. There was absolutely no reason to involve any Shi'ar storyline otherwise. Especially in this time-space.
Also as far as earth is concerned, the point about other nations in the world refusing to accept returning mutant refugees after the attack & leaving them with no home, leads me to believe they might try the Utopia saga, maybe? That would be awesome and is imo some of the best Cyclops characterisation the character has ever had in comic book history.
Where else are these mutants going to go except the fallen Asteroid M floating in the ocean.
Ummm…Deathbird didn't need to put so much emphasis on Milky Way Ghetto. I took that shit personally.
There are so many big and small ways you can tell that there are PoC in this writers room. Because that line took me out.
She just called us poor and low class.
Nightcrawler in the intro (meaning he's part of the team now)
Thought FOR SURE they were about to reveal
at the end there considering they were taking direct lines from "E For Extinction".
So who the hell told the X-Men Xavier was dead in the first place?
Thought FOR SURE they were about to reveal
Cassandra Nova
So who the hell told the X-Men Xavier was dead in the first place?
I think the number one reason we're seeing the Shi'ar storyline adapted right now is so that Xavier can express the "assimilation is death" ideal he showed off here. Coexistence only works if it's COexistence, not existence at the expense of one group or another. A unification that comes at the cost of any of the cultures being unified is not unification. It's a jingoistic lie that the victors tell themselves - conveniently, just like the lie that "tolerance" is enough.
And our season finale's title is, fittingly, "Tolerance is Extinction".
His name is Ronan the Accuser, not Ronan the Winner, after all.
Mere moments after I was saying to my partner that Deathbirth/the Shi'ar consider "terrans" to be ghetto, she literally says "Milky Way Ghetto"
Interesting that they gave Lilandra telepathic abilities considered potent enough to purge Xavier of all his earthly memories(even if he was willing)...it's not like they have already shown Oracle as part of the Imperial Guard already.
Classroom scene was funny, "DEMERITS!", and sorta reminded me of when Jean and Xavier were "schooling" Cassandra Nova.
Storm is back and looks great...I'm surprised they didn't sorta hint at her own magical heritage/potential, but it's fine considering how stuffed these episodes are
Interesting that they gave Lilandra telepathic abilities considered potent enough to purge Xavier of all his earthly memories(even if he was willing)...it's not like they have already shown Oracle as part of the Imperial Guard already.
Classroom scene was funny, "DEMERITS!", and sorta reminded me of when Jean and Xavier were "schooling" Cassandra Nova.
Storm is back and looks great...I'm surprised they didn't sorta hint at her own magical heritage/potential, but it's fine considering how stuffed these episodes are
Coexistence is messy, but better than domination. It takes time, knowledge, empathy.
Storm's back, and she's got her classic costume! Plus her original hair.
Interesting how Charles only noticed Gambit's death and not Magneto's. They're definitely keeping it vague.
Storm's back, and she's got her classic costume! Plus her original hair.
Interesting how Charles only noticed Gambit's death and not Magneto's. They're definitely keeping it vague.
After last week with the affair and Genosha and this weeks' class in session and "I gave you my DNA for Master Mold, they're taking so much from Morrison. Like BWoog said, I was expecting a very different reveal.
But I'm actually digging that. Whether you're a fan of the animated series or the comics, they are twisting our expectations. That's good fucking writing.
But I'm actually digging that. Whether you're a fan of the animated series or the comics, they are twisting our expectations. That's good fucking writing.
"Forge made his bed. Let him die in it."
God, I love that line. It's not exactly a unique line, but the mixture of the wordplay and the way the actress delivers it just made me grin.
God, I love that line. It's not exactly a unique line, but the mixture of the wordplay and the way the actress delivers it just made me grin.
The animation on the Adversary was fucking top notch. Holy shit What If's animation is embarrassing at this point.
I'm not familiar with the original story that was adapted here, but I thought using the Adversary as basically a metamagical personification of depression and self-loathing was a nice touch. The fact it's just so bitter is a really fun character note to play with, and the way it moves really gives that feeling of something out of a nightmare.
Nightcrawler in the intro. Chuck chomping on an apple in the astral plane. Storm ascending back into the top of the tier list. We're so back!
I really liked Lilandra's line about the drama of Earth being like a black hole. And Deathbird saying Earth is in a "milky way ghetto." I know she says Terran with a HARD 'N'
I really liked Lilandra's line about the drama of Earth being like a black hole. And Deathbird saying Earth is in a "milky way ghetto." I know she says Terran with a HARD 'N'
Get my boi Kurt an X-Men belt to complete his look.
But yeah, another banger episode.
But yeah, another banger episode.
Beat me to it, but yeah. That stood out to me in way that said "Yeah, Black folks were involved in writing this".
This episode's schooling of anti-colonialism is fucking awesome.
Most I've ever cared about a cosmic X-Men adventure.
Another great episode, though I wish we got to see more of Storm's awesome 80s punk costume.
Another great episode, though I wish we got to see more of Storm's awesome 80s punk costume.
It even tied in perfectly with what Forge mentioned about the Civil War earlier in the episode.
The second that council member said "Even if we were to agree, your idealism would confuse our people. They might even call it nonsense." I was just thinking they nailed white people and their denial of colonialism. Even liberal white people who are anti-racist will still be massively pro-colonialist because they think it threatens their wealth and status.
I'm tempted to be a little disappointed but it depends on where it goes. Animated Sinister was obviously adapted from his original 90s comic form. Who was a somewhat simple megalomaniacal villain. After all, he was originally meant to be a literal cartoon character - a kid's idea of a super villain.
Since then Essex/Sinister has become many more things with bigger ambitions and more thoughtful schemes. I'm wondering if we're about to see Sinister rapidly evolve into something more like his current form from comics.
Yup. As someone who has never been a particular fan of Cosmic Marvel, this is the closest I've ever come to giving a shit about it. Using cosmic stories to aid in the development of more realistic Earthbound conflicts is the only way to get me interested. High-minded sci-fi puts me to sleep.
Great episode, though having Kurt in the opening credits is such a tease for next week. I'm so glad the show went with the week-to-week intro changes, I'm always a sucker for that and using it to narratively tie in with the team roster is brilliant. Seeing the MCU-style magic rune circle with Forge was interesting, aside from I guess Shadow King I don't really remember any magic from the original show so the use of the current visual language was a smart choice.
One aspect that I continue to appreciate is that this isn't some new thing, since it continues off the original run you can get lines like the one about Emperor D'ken and appreciate the full scope of events that they went through, or last week with the Morlocks being around you build off previous events, or with Jubilee's Mojo adventure. Going "surprise, Xavier is alive and consort to the leader of a space empire" just works since we saw their love blossom in previous seasons, it's not totally out of left field. Not starting from X-Men scratch gives so much leeway for them to hit the ground running like they have been.
One aspect that I continue to appreciate is that this isn't some new thing, since it continues off the original run you can get lines like the one about Emperor D'ken and appreciate the full scope of events that they went through, or last week with the Morlocks being around you build off previous events, or with Jubilee's Mojo adventure. Going "surprise, Xavier is alive and consort to the leader of a space empire" just works since we saw their love blossom in previous seasons, it's not totally out of left field. Not starting from X-Men scratch gives so much leeway for them to hit the ground running like they have been.
Great episode, we got Nightcrawler on the team finally
Also, Am I the only one who prefers Storm's white costume? The Mohawk needed to go but no that costume!
Also, Am I the only one who prefers Storm's white costume? The Mohawk needed to go but no that costume!
What was that blue/yellow tactical Wolverine in the opening next to Bishop? I'm not too familiar with the 90s show or pre-2000s X-Men.
That's from the One Man's Worth two-parter. It's basically a proto-Age of Apocalypse.
One Man's Worth Part 1
This is the second episode of the fourth season of X-Men: The Animated Series. Protagonists: Bishop Shard (first appearance) Wolverine Storm Forge Professor X Antagonists: Trevor Fitzroy (first appearance) Bantam (first appearance) Master Mold Nimrod Avengers (only appearance) Captain America...