Bingo. As long as this dont get traction in the US, Microsoft will gladly let the brand be associated with misogynistic scum like Milgrau.
Xbox Brasil dismisses new host after she was the victim of death and rape threats. (See Threadmark: Microsoft Responds)
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Risking a ban here but I think this is complete unfair and I really doubt if I as a Brazilian say that I think that some American gaming commmunity is toxic without any context would not receive a "drive-by post" ban. Bigotry should be bannable.And this is what i got when i reported it:
I mean, not even a warning?
Yea there can be shitty outcomes, especially for the average person. They a definitely not good things to do. But yea this isn't the best place to discus this.
But anyway MS really needs to do something quick. I can't see Phil and others at the top being happy about this.
And this is what i got when i reported it:
I mean, not even a warning?
I agree with the moderator, If a person living in a 3rd world country wants to speak in such self-deprecating way is our right. Rich people from developed nations telling us how to "'behave" is kind of racist.
And this is what i got when i reported it:
I mean, not even a warning?
Got the same here, but my message also said "user is also from a 3rd world country".
If you're from a developing country and your only contribuition on a thread about a really shitty situation is a "self-deprecating" xenophobic comment, it rings really hollow. Doesn't matter if you're one of us or a gringo
24h since XboxBR's last tweet, there's definitively something going on, really hoping it's going to be something meaningful.
let's see how long it will take for MS to do something and let's see if they'll do something at all.
if no one act to revert this shit, we'll know MS official position when it comes to racism, homophobia and chauvinism.
We're looking at your company majornelson
if no one act to revert this shit, we'll know MS official position when it comes to racism, homophobia and chauvinism.
We're looking at your company majornelson
At least for now the Brazilian Xbox twitter account is basically frozen, so I think something is being done, but it better be something substantial.
So i guess it's all right if a woman says something sexist or a PoC says something racist bc self depreciation?And this is what i got when i reported it:
I mean, not even a warning?
A south american sayin xenophobic thoughts is just as bad as these i'm sorry. Dude gets away with it cause it's a flag no one here cares about i guess
Weird seeing 3rd world expression in post cold-war era, especially indicating poorer countries which was not what it was intended to be used in the first place.
This is absolutely messed up. To think a company can become so big that they don't realize/care how toxic one of their divisions has become. :(
They fired her... because she got death and rape threats?? What the fuck?? What's wrong with humanity???
Perfect.
"Third World" was coined DURING the Cold War to describe nations that neither supported 'the West' (NATO) nor 'the East' (cmmunists). In effect, the term was created as a marker for a nation's political ideology - perhaps often pacifism in the case of "Third World countries" in a time of great global unrest.
Plus the nature of the term implies entire nations are unsophisticated and alien and it assumes a hierarchy between countries- and this is also true of the expressions "developed" and "developing" countries.
exactly.
"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others". Animal Farm, by George Orwell.
Wouldn't seeking legal help in Brazil and contacting politicians be more effective than recurring to Microsoft Corp?
I will never understand men threatened by a woman playing video games. How pathetic do you have to be.
They let xbox mil grau around for over six years, at some point you gotta realise this isn't a case of ignorance, it's calculated negligence.
They know their public in Brazil
So I saw some people saying that they are changing the whole Xbox Brazil to have a smaller presence here like Sony and Nintendo. I can see that happening, but that would be saying she lied on the reasoning of her being fired.
I'd be nice to have a clarification on the matter rather than a generic post like that one on twitter. Does anyone have proof of that?
I'm kinda disgusted if it's true. They've spent this whole time fomenting toxicity on the community via Mil Grau and now they just leave because they created a monster bigger than themselves.
Unbelievable. Can someone clarify that?
I'd be nice to have a clarification on the matter rather than a generic post like that one on twitter. Does anyone have proof of that?
I'm kinda disgusted if it's true. They've spent this whole time fomenting toxicity on the community via Mil Grau and now they just leave because they created a monster bigger than themselves.
Unbelievable. Can someone clarify that?
Going by that fucked up logic, feminism shouldn't even exist because most cultures in the whole world are very sexist, it isn't exclusive to Brazil.
Planet earth is misogynistic, what did you expect? Let's not bother doing something about it.
Does that necessarily mean something of consequence will happen, or that they're merely piping down till things cool off?
That's dissapointing and hopefully there will be consequences for this. I fell in love with the Xbox ecosystem and i thought MS did a very good job supporting every kind of player, but this is just sad.
I see nothing has been done yet.
On another note, Phil Spencer just followed a homophobe on Twitter.
www.resetera.com
On another note, Phil Spencer just followed a homophobe on Twitter.
Windows Central Journo Telling People to Follow Homophobic Toxic Gamer
I know this guy is banned but lmfao, what absolute horseshit. "propaganda" he says. Fucking laughable if it wasn't so pathetic.
www.resetera.com
Btw the Greenberg stuff is threadworthy, he really shouldn't hang with these kind of people and more than once he was called out because of it.
majornelson
Hello, I know you're super busy, but I'd like to take time away from your busy schedule to bring these and the Dealer gaming issues to light.
I'm not going to assume malice, but please be aware that these are two hot-button issues that ERA would like dealt with and done the right thing.
Please inform Phil that he followed on Twitter an Xbox hypeman who have issues anti-LGTBQ statements in the past. Aaron Greenburg frequently have gone on this show and associates the Xbox brand with Dealer gaming.
Additionally, what happened here in Brasil was shitty, and I'd like you to bring it to Phil's attention. Please rectify both of these situations as quickly as possible.
Thank you.
majornelson
Hello, I know you're super busy, but I'd like to take time away from your busy schedule to bring these and the Dealer gaming issues to light.
I'm not going to assume malice, but please be aware that these are two hot-button issues that ERA would like dealt with and done the right thing.
Please inform Phil that he followed on Twitter an Xbox hypeman who have issues anti-LGTBQ statements in the past. Aaron Greenburg frequently have gone on this show and associates the Xbox brand with Dealer gaming.
Additionally, what happened here in Brasil was shitty, and I'd like you to bring it to Phil's attention. Please rectify both of these situations as quickly as possible.
Thank you.
majornelson
I'm actually really surprised that thread got locked without a mod spinning it off as a new thread (if possible?) or suggesting so.
Anyway, when she says "guidance from the global Xbox team" after the Greenberg/Phil stuff I somewhat see now this isn't just a problem with Xbox Brazil.
Actually now I do
oh boy, you are gonna need a bigger HDD pal
On the other end though these execs probably interact with hundreds if not thousands of accounts weekly. Should we be under the assumption that they take time out of their day to go through every users posts history? Probably not.
You're not wrong. Era pretends it's progressive but it's only when this progressiveness aligns with the world perspective of Americans.
Did you participate in that thread about the use of the term "Latinx"? It was a total shit show and latin american users were consistently dismissed by americans who apparently know latin american culture better than latin american themselves.
And just to be clear: this is not an attack on the moderators, it's not even restricted to ERA. It's just a fact. The vast majority of people from imperialist countries will never ever ever know how it's like to live in a colonized country that was affected by theirs countries imperialism, no matter how "progressive" the person might be.
Doubt it. Sometimes Microsoft just sweeps things under the rug and hopes people forget (and people do).
Reminds me of the gamecheat13 incident a few months back.
I don't know how MS still lets Xbox Brasil run. They are the fucking worst. I know Phill will solve this shit eventually. Hopefully soon.