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M.J.

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Oct 25, 2017
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Not when you need and OS, Keyboard, Monitor, Multi-function mouse, Headphones, mousepad, windows 10, Broadband internet, speakers....

It's never gonna be possible to build a PC for cheap.
 

TC McQueen

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Oct 27, 2017
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You're sure as hell not going to do it now, when RAM and GPU costs have ballooned due to shortages and heightened demand.
 

Aeana

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Oct 25, 2017
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Not when you need and OS, Keyboard, Monitor, Multi-function mouse, Headphones, mousepad, windows 10, Broadband internet, speakers....

It's never gonna be possible to build a PC for cheap.
Do you factor in the price of television for the Xbox? And I'm pretty sure you need broadband internet for the console too. Have you seen the Quantum Break update size?
 

Gowans

Moderator
Oct 27, 2017
5,532
North East, UK
They reference this in the PC World Xbox One X Review

Alaina's build also came in around $650-700. That's another area where the Xbox One X has a major advantage—price. We've put together a few PC builds comparable to the Xbox One X, and the cheapest (sans-optical drive because Steam exists) is around $640. That'll get you basic 4K, 30 frames-per-second gaming. Adding a 4K Blu-Ray drive tacks at least another $100 on the price, and your options are very limited.

At $500 then, the Xbox One X is a bargain. A bit ironic, given the outcry about the original Xbox One's $500 price tag—at the time it seemed like a ripoff. $500 for the Xbox One X seems more than reasonable though, considering it's cheaper than even the least expensive comparable PC.

As for our supercharged HP Omen X comparison, keep in mind that just a single 1080 Ti would cost you more than this entire console. So yeah, you could absolutely build a high-end PC that blows the Xbox One X out of the water, but the Xbox One X is probably the best price/performance ratio on the market at the moment.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/323...sing-amount-of-power-in-a-very-small-box.html
 
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digitalrelic

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Oct 25, 2017
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Not when you need and OS, Keyboard, Monitor, Multi-function mouse, Headphones, mousepad, windows 10, Broadband internet, speakers....

It's never gonna be possible to build a PC for cheap.

Do you factor in the price of television for the Xbox? And I'm pretty sure you need broadband internet for the console too. Have you seen the Quantum Break update size?

Did the XBoX comes with: Monitor, Headphones, Broadband Internet, Speakers?

What's really impressive is that even without any of those things M.J. Doja listed, only factoring the PC hardware alone, they were unable to match the $500 price point of the XB1X.
 

M.J.

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Oct 25, 2017
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I forgot a SSD and a storage drive for all your games! Of course I didn't factor in the price of the TV for Xbox One X... It doesn't just magically project itself onto the wall? Mine does.

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What other function does your mouse have?

Many functions... Big, huge functions! You need to map all of the commands onto your mouse in order to enjoy PC gaming properly. A puny "single-function" mouse won't cut it these days.
 

mrtl

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Oct 27, 2017
827
You're sure as hell not going to do it now, when RAM and GPU costs have ballooned due to shortages and heightened demand.
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That's minimum price/average price/popularity. It's insane how expensive RAM is at the moment. 200 euros for 16 GB (Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK16GX4M2B3000C15)
 

Netherscourge

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Oct 25, 2017
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So, you need between $700 and $900 to build a PC that roughly matches the $500 Xbox One X in gaming performance and 4K BD-ROM capabilities.

-Get a Xbox One X and spend the extra $200 to $400 on games and/or put it toward a nice 4K TV!
 

kaputt

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Oct 27, 2017
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Do you factor in multiple years of xbox live?
Yup, this is something that should be considered.

I made PC my main platform because of this. I don't play many multiplayer games, so there's no point in paying for basically a new console ($250-300) every five or six years just to eventually use the online features.
 

M.J.

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Oct 25, 2017
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So, you need between $700 and $900 to build a PC that roughly matches the $500 Xbox One X in gaming performance and 4K BD-ROM capabilities.

-Get a Xbox One X and spend the extra $200 to $400 on games and/or put it toward a nice 4K TV!

Correction: More like a cool $1000. You'd need compressed air to clean the keyboard daily.
 

francium87

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Oct 27, 2017
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Or the higher price of games.
If one takes the effort to trade-in/sell or rent games, console gaming can be cheap too. (specific cases for sure, but I can get Madden or Assassin's Creed for essentially $38 on launch at best buy, play for a month, and trade them in to amazon for $30)
Not to mention steam sales are getting weaker in the last couple years, same-year AAAs are not dropping to crazy prices any more.
Humblebundle pricing for indies are still great, but they are mostly older games, and Games for Gold makes up for part of it.

Xbox live prices should be factored into the equation, but I'm not so sure about the game pricing part.
 

Okii

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Oct 25, 2017
3,189
These comparisons never amount to anything other than people pointing out how dumb they are. If your budget is $500 get an Xbox One X if you want more than that and have the money, get a PC. Trying to shoe horn a comparison between the two does nothing but undermines the benefits of both.
 

Kenzodielocke

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Oct 25, 2017
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They price is super good for the Xbox One X, I personally don't have much use for it. I reckon it's mainly for the existing userbase? Just like the PS4 Pro.
 
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digitalrelic

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Oct 25, 2017
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If you have to pay for something, how is it free?

However, yes, you can subscribe to EA's thing and get just that.

I know it's not free, but that's kind of my point. It's not as simple as "Oh, we need to add $150 to this build for the cost of XBL for three years".
Some people don't play online so they don't opt for XBL Gold. Some people find XBL Gold totally worth it for the "free" games alone. Some people on PC pay for their own subscription service like EA Access or Humble Bundle. There's a lot of variables.
 

ShinUltramanJ

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Oct 27, 2017
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I can trade those games in though. If I wanna buy Assassins creed is gonna cost $60 at the moment. I can then beat it and rad wit in for $30

I get what you're saying, as I used to do the same when I was strictly on consoles. My physical library was only 20-30 titles because I'd trade games in. On PC I'm paying way less money and my library just keeps growing. I'm over the 600 game mark at this point.

From my point of view as a life long console gamer that switched to PC s few years ago, the difference is night and day.
 

Gestault

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Oct 26, 2017
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The price alone (relative to the PC gaming market) is impressive, but I think people acting like the form-factor alone isn't a legitimate selling point in the wild are deluding themselves. No console is a replacement for a good PC, but the price point and "package" for the 1X is effectively the best value I've come across for a 4K-targeted gaming/media device. Which isn't the same as saying a high-end PC would be less good for just gaming, but with a lot of the things that matter to people, they won't get a PC in the same price ballpark and keep those advantages.
 

impact

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Oct 26, 2017
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In a thread about an Xbox One X PC equivalent we're talking about how consoles don't have cheap humble keys.

New coat of paint, same coat of salt.
 

ThanksVision

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Oct 25, 2017
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If you want to game in 4k and consume 4k media for as little money as possible, the One X seems like a pretty great buy.
 

Liamario

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Oct 25, 2017
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If you don't have a PC, then X is a perfectly valid purchase. If you do have a half decent PC, purchasing an X over a Switch or a PS4 makes very little sense.
 

dismal

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Oct 27, 2017
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Microsoft is definitely giving me something to think about. I had planned to upgrade my PC but for the price of the XBX it's a compelling proposition, considering I mostly play single player games and the PC exclusives I play (cRPGs) will run fine on my old rig for years. GameFly has pretty good turnaround times for me too, using the gift card method it's cheap to play new games too since I don't care about ownership. I think if the XBX becomes a profitable venture for them and they do another enthusiast console in the future it could be a viable option for those who want more power but aren't willing to invest enough to stay on the bleeding edge.
 

Ge0force

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Oct 28, 2017
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The cost of gaming is more than the cost of the hardware. Pc hardware is more expensive, but free online gaming, cheaper games, better discounts and free mods and community content are a huge advantage.

Not saying pc-gaming isn't more expensive than console gaming, but the difference isn't as huge as some people say.
 

ClarkusDarkus

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Oct 27, 2017
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In the UK i asked PC specialist guys at EGX if they could build one price/performance to match the X1X. They said they couldn't to be fair, But also said they hope they enjoy 30fps.
 

Bjones

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Oct 30, 2017
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Specs are really sort of meaningless when you factor everything in. It's not like every game is equal across all platforms. Sometimes pc ports are shit other times console ports are shit. Also you got size and one store vs multiple stores... 100% cloud saves Xbox bs longer life on pc.