Loved the old stuff. Loved how people actually grew and changed. Got married had kids. Etc
Instead we have people reverting or being depressed.
How did the old books end? I'm guessing Darth Cadeus is yet to be revealed etc. No justice for Mara?
Loved the old stuff. Loved how people actually grew and changed. Got married had kids. Etc
Instead we have people reverting or being depressed.
How did the old books end? I'm guessing Darth Cadeus is yet to be revealed etc. No justice for Mara?
I don't think any of the three main characters got endings in the old EU. It would be cool if they let Zahn or someone write one more trilogy to end the EU.
Loved the old stuff. Loved how people actually grew and changed. Got married had kids. Etc
Instead we have people reverting or being depressed.
How did the old books end? I'm guessing Darth Cadeus is yet to be revealed etc. No justice for Mara?
This comes up everytime, like how is the EU so crazy compared to the source material? All those things sound perfectly fine for a Star Wars movie. "Oh they can destroy planets with a giant laser? That's fine."
"They can destroy stars in the EU with a small ship!? FUCK THIS SHITTY FANFIC!"
They didn't, but that's because the Disney buyout terminated the EU prematurely.
I'm still hoping that down the line Disney and Lucasfilm will decide to start publishing new Legends stuff in the Insider magazine at least.
I have a bunch of SW Legends books including #1 of this one, but aint read them yet
Who the fuck is the wizard man shooting lasers from his hands in the first image?
It was an awful crutch during the Bantam Spectra years. So many series amounted to "wow, there is still a small Imperial Research Sector that has just brought a new super weapon to bear." So many Star Wars writers were so devoted to the OT's formula that it included the weaknesses as well. "George brought in Death Star 2 so I guess that means we always must bring out a new Imperial Super Weapon to make it feel like Star Wars!"
I have a bunch of SW Legends books including #1 of this one, but aint read them yet
Who the fuck is the wizard man shooting lasers from his hands in the first image?
And then we essentially got that with the First Order and their super secret super system killing weapon.
Which books in the new canon deal with the post ROTJ era? I read Lost Stars which covered it a little bit, and it's always the part of the EU I was most interested in.Look, I fell under the spell of those when they came out, too. It was a cool crazy concept at the time that there even WERE new novels. In 1991, there was NO Star Wars. No toys or any other merchandise, hadn't been a movie in years, nothing. It was a dead IP. Then suddenly Dark Empire and Heir to the Empire came out, and it was cool and unique to think "oh wow, these tell the story of what happened AFTERWARDS, wow"! It was like Wicked being a sequel to the Wizard of Oz or something. And hell, it was a kitschy thing to even think about Star Wars at all by the late 80's/early 90's, the age of TMNT, Hypercolor and Guns & Roses.
So I get why these books are fondly remembered, I fondly remember them too. But having said all that, no. Those are in no way better stories than the last three films. And yes, I get that some people hate TLJ, opinions are a dime a dozen etc etc. But that's mine, and I'm pretty well versed in it all.
AND Zahn's new canon Thrawn book is better too. It's the first part of what will definitely be a trilogy, Zahn's writing and understanding of the character is sharper than ever, and it doesn't have all the goofy baggage that the Heir trilogy has. The post-Endor era has now been done to death in both the old EU and the new continuity. So the first Thrawn book takes place from just post-RotS to just pre-ANH, tells how he joins the Empire, meets Palpatine and Vader for the first time and so on. The second book is out next summer, and probably takes place during the OT, and I'd bet some credits that the third will take place in the outer rim and speak to Thrawn's involvement with the ashes of the Empire becoming the start of the First Order. In the first book, Zahn happily takes pieces of his old work that function (the first chapter is actually straight from a 1995 supplemental short story he wrote) and combines those pieces with great new work that results in a much more concise, cohesive story than the old material. (Which by the way, is pretty much a microcosm of the old vs new EU anyway).
Yeah, this is what should have been filmed instead of the prequel trilogy and the sequel trilogy. Back kin the mid-1990s.
The First Order and its Star Killer superweapon makes no sense existing after Return of the Jedi.
Which books in the new canon deal with the post ROTJ era? I read Lost Stars which covered it a little bit, and it's always the part of the EU I was most interested in.
Which books in the new canon deal with the post ROTJ era? I read Lost Stars which covered it a little bit, and it's always the part of the EU I was most interested in.
I read the first Aftermath book and thought it wasn't very good, do the sequels get better?Lost Stars (this book covers decades so the end fits post RotJ)
Aftermath Trilogy
Bloodlines
Canto Bight
Phasma
Legends of Luke Skywalker
TFA
TLJ
That makes no sense to me. The First Order is just an evolution of the Imperial Remnant that Zahn started and that remained a crutch for pretty much the EU from that point forward. Didn't they even eventually cede a section of the galaxy to the remnant, similar to what happens with TFO?
If your complaint with TFA was lack of originality then the Zahn books aren't what you are looking for. Thrawn is great but at the end of the day its still all about fighting Imperial Star Destroyers, Tie Fighters, etc.
I read the first Aftermath book and thought it wasn't very good, do the sequels get better?
I read the first Aftermath book and thought it wasn't very good, do the sequels get better?
AND Zahn's new canon Thrawn book is better too. It's the first part of what will definitely be a trilogy, Zahn's writing and understanding of the character is sharper than ever, and it doesn't have all the goofy baggage that the Heir trilogy has. The post-Endor era has now been done to death in both the old EU and the new continuity. So the first Thrawn book takes place from just post-RotS to just pre-ANH, tells how he joins the Empire, meets Palpatine and Vader for the first time and so on. The second book is out next summer, and probably takes place during the OT, and I'd bet some credits that the third will take place in the outer rim and speak to Thrawn's involvement with the ashes of the Empire becoming the start of the First Order. In the first book, Zahn happily takes pieces of his old work that function (the first chapter is actually straight from a 1995 supplemental short story he wrote) and combines those pieces with great new work that results in a much more concise, cohesive story than the old material. (Which by the way, is pretty much a microcosm of the old vs new EU anyway).
Just sold me on getting the new Thrawn book.Look, I fell under the spell of those when they came out, too. It was a cool crazy concept at the time that there even WERE new novels. In 1991, there was NO Star Wars. No toys or any other merchandise, hadn't been a movie in years, nothing. It was a dead IP. Then suddenly Dark Empire and Heir to the Empire came out, and it was cool and unique to think "oh wow, these tell the story of what happened AFTERWARDS, wow"! It was like Wicked being a sequel to the Wizard of Oz or something. And hell, it was a kitschy thing to even think about Star Wars at all by the late 80's/early 90's, the age of TMNT, Hypercolor and Guns & Roses.
So I get why these books are fondly remembered, I fondly remember them too. But having said all that, no. Those are in no way better stories than the last three films. And yes, I get that some people hate TLJ, opinions are a dime a dozen etc etc. But that's mine, and I'm pretty well versed in it all.
AND Zahn's new canon Thrawn book is better too. It's the first part of what will definitely be a trilogy, Zahn's writing and understanding of the character is sharper than ever, and it doesn't have all the goofy baggage that the Heir trilogy has. The post-Endor era has now been done to death in both the old EU and the new continuity. So the first Thrawn book takes place from just post-RotS to just pre-ANH, tells how he joins the Empire, meets Palpatine and Vader for the first time and so on. The second book is out next summer, and probably takes place during the OT, and I'd bet some credits that the third will take place in the outer rim and speak to Thrawn's involvement with the ashes of the Empire becoming the start of the First Order. In the first book, Zahn happily takes pieces of his old work that function (the first chapter is actually straight from a 1995 supplemental short story he wrote) and combines those pieces with great new work that results in a much more concise, cohesive story than the old material. (Which by the way, is pretty much a microcosm of the old vs new EU anyway).
Even as a young teen I thought the romantic scenes in the X-Wing series ,especially the Corran-Mirax relationship, were really awkwardly written. The space combat stuff was top notch though, especially in The Bacta WarGod I loved those books as a kid. Pretty sure they've aged terribly.
Not sure if the content of the books is a spoiler here, but...I love Zahn's Thrawn trilogy. I wish that Mara, Karrde, and Garm Bel Iblis are incorporated into the new EU just like the new Thrawn. If i were to change some things, i would definitely remove Joruus C'baoth and the Katana fleet from the trilogy. Seriously, Thrawn and Palpatine's hidden tech stash is more than enough threat for the New Republic.
I think Pellaeon has wonderful political skills, even if he knows he'll never have Thrawn skills in strategy and tactics. Seeing him basically saving the remnants for years by clever choices is a great part of EU. I really like him.Actually the Imperial Remnant and Republic sign a treaty in the Thrawn Duology and their conflicts stopped. I thought it was a nice solution than just wiping them out.
I've read them recently (well, it was in 2016 I think). I still quite enjoyed them.God I loved those books as a kid. Pretty sure they've aged terribly.
...it never was canon.
It was canon.
Pellaeon is one of my favorite Star Wars characters. He is an imperial who is actually a believable human being instead of a monster or cannon fodder like all the other ones.
I've read them recently (well, it was in 2016 I think). I still quite enjoyed them.