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Nikkei: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate topped 5m at its first 3 days (retail sell-through+digital)
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You guys say that but...
And
Just saying the Franchise hasn't had a massive success since 2012...
Yeah. Fire Emblem is more important to Nintendo. Don't mind you, Nintendo had to lump the announcement of Animal Crossing 2019 WITH Smash just to make sure people pay attention.
The leaps in logic and hoops you're willing to go through just so you can plausibly deny you didn't know about Animal Crossing sales is the most entertaining thing I've read today. Please by all means continue *grabs popcorn*.
I wonder what kind of impact Joker had on this. Maybe PS4 only fans that loves Joker so much, that it was the tipping point to get SSBU
5 million in three freaking days? I think it's the fastest selling non-portable game in Nintendo history.
People can't understand his point because he doesn't have one that makes sense. Spin off Animal Crossing games sell more than mainline Fire Emblem games - just because Fire Emblem on mobile is doing incredible doesn't suddenly mean its going to do 10 million on console (which a mainline Animal Crossing game will do easily). Also he's making stuff up - saying Animal Crossing doesn't sell merch - I guarantee you it shifts a metric tone more merch than Fire Emblem does
If he wants to make a point people will take seriously he needs to stop spouting complete nonsense
Maybe? Might be a situation, where you want to get good at the game etc before Joker comes in April or what not
Can you imagine a timeline where a spin-off Animal Crossing game outsells mainline Fire Emblem game? Oh wait...
These comparisons don't make sense at all.
On GC, the franchise was still in its infancy and its Western release was a bet. Zelda was already a proven franchise. Also, Animal Crossing is new to spin-offs and can be declined less easily to such projects, unlike Zelda. Animal Crossing is a social life-sim which exploits the fact that can be played each day for long periods of time.
Also, Animal Crossing: City Folk sold more than Skyward Sword.
I told ya'll bringing back Pichu would result in amazing sales and nobody believed me. Who is laughing now?
That's...only 8 hours a day. Sounds like you are projecting a bit here. I work full-time and can do 4-5 hours a day if I wanted.
Or Daisy's third eye!
Melee original release with a texture error
SpeedyBlueDude cant speak about other countries, but AC has two entries in the top 10 best selling games of all time in Japan. It enjoys the company of Pokémon and Mario, which are the only other two franchises there.
At the end of September shipments were 22.87 million so I just took sold to Consumers up to that number since we don't know what it actually is. Shipments could be far higher and I'm probably way off anyway.
What a weird debate this thread has devolved into. Both Fire Emblem and Animal Crossing are very successful right now and making plenty of money. They boost mindshare to different auciences and neither one should be considered C-tier at this point in time. Smash is great as a promotional tool for other franchises, but it's not some end-all lifesaver. Smash helped FE get out of Japan, but Awakening is what truly rescued the IP.
There, argument over, that was easy.
5 million in three days is a bit mind-boggling. Considering we're going to get a year of updates, this thing is going to be an absolute monster.
There, argument over, that was easy.
5 million in three days is a bit mind-boggling. Considering we're going to get a year of updates, this thing is going to be an absolute monster.
That sounds pretty natural to me tbh, FE isn't much of a seller til recently
Rather than address the obvious elephant in the room like the others, let me ask you this......where's Splatoon?
Here are Fire Emblem series total sale from Mars 2017 http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Fire_Emblem Ca 10 millions
VS
Here are Animal Crossing series total sale from Mars 2017 http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Animal_Crossing Ca 33 millions
https://www.resetera.com/goto/post?id=16142034
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Here are Animal Crossing series total sale from Mars 2017 http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Animal_Crossing Ca 33 millions
https://www.resetera.com/goto/post?id=16142034
If they consider AC to be C-Tier, it'll be probably F-Tier or something because it doesn't have a mobile game, lol.
Oh boy. One at a time, I guess:
Since 2011, we've gotten:
-OoT 3D
-Skyward Sword
-TWW HD
-ALBW
-MM 3D
-Tri Force Heroes
-TP HD
-BotW
That's 8 games over the last 8 years. FE has:
-Awakening
-Fates
-Echoes
-Heroes
Now, granted, that's in one less year because there was no release in 2011. But even counting Fates as 3 would put you at less games. And if you want to say remakes shouldn't count, your argument is on money brought in, and Fates didn't even reach MM 3D based on the most recent numbers we have if I'm reading correctly.
One game is not a trend. It doesn't seem to be continuing with Three Houses, either.
BotW alone without DLC has made more than Heroes, though it may get surpassed eventually... but by then the next big Zelda should be out. The other games in that time span more than cover the test.
"Only" eight hours a day?
That's a full time job. I'm unemployed and even I don't have 8 hours a day to throw at Smash. That's a wild amount of time.
So we have people in here claiming that Smash is more complicated/confusing than Street Fighter, and that Fire Emblem is more important to Nintendo than Animal Crossing and on the level of Zelda...using a WiiU spinoff and a portable spin-off as evidence...
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I'll be shocked if Animal Crossing has half as great an opening.....but I'll be equally shocked if Animal Crossing doesn't have longer legs. The post launch support they gave New Leaf was crazy. I expect they'll be doing all that and more with their next game and keep it relevant for years.
Dont use vg chart please. They have been proven again and again that their number is wrong.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ni...ardware-sales-data-from-1983-to-present.2725/
Use this thread for all Nintendo sales.
Again, you are projecting. Your life isn't the judge against what all gameplay hours should be judged against. This might be one of the most hyped releases by Nintendo since SM64 and OoT. People enjoy things and make time for them if they can. People literally took off work for this game.
So we have people in here claiming that Smash more complicated/confusing than Street Fighter, and that Fire Emblem is more important to Nintendo than Animal Crossing and on the level of Zelda...using a WiiU spinoff and a portable spin-off as evidence...
Whats next lol? SFVI will sell more than MK11? ^_^
Curious to see how Fire Emblem will tap into the mobile crowd. Wonder if they will have an easy mode where perma-deaths are gone.
They've had that in past games. It's a sure bet that it'll be in the Switch game.
I guess I didn't read where he said that Animal Crossing doesn't sell merch which is 100% bullshit, and I agree that he's not giving Animal Crossing enough credit, but I was focused more on his claim that Fire Emblem 100% skyrocketed to a near top-tier franchise now and that is because of Smash Bros.
I'm sure Nintendo views Fire Emblem and Animal Crossing as equally important franchises in their own right.
You guys say that but...
And
Just saying the Franchise hasn't had a massive success since 2012...
Yeah. Fire Emblem is more important to Nintendo. Don't mind you, Nintendo had to lump the announcement of Animal Crossing 2019 WITH Smash just to make sure people pay attention.
Lmao
I'm done.
i don't think I put in quite that much time, but I put in a ton of hours to smash last week in large part because I was off work for unrelated reasons (i'm A graduate student and my research had to be put on hold due to equipment issues)
Insane sales. Does this mean that Smash has a chance at making the Top 10 list of bestselling games of 2018 when the year is over? That would be a huge achievement considering it's an exclusive on an install base of around 30 million and didn't release until December.
You mean the thing they've had since before FEH was even a thing. Casual mode with no permadeath has been in for a while (since the Japan exclusive new mystery of the emblem remake I believe)
They already have Phoenix mode in Fates lol.
I am sure that Smash is not what that save FE lol. Smash maybe put the series into Nintendo fans concious sure but it is true their own effort by IS with Awakening that they are this big now. To said that it is all smash feels like crazy talk considering how much effort IS put into Awakening there.
Adding Daisy as a playable character was a genius move.
NOTE: The eye bug was fixed in the final game.
I always forget Daisy is in this game. We need more Super Mario Land remixes.
I'm not really sure what to make of that claim. Melee absolutely helped the series out by bringing it to the West, but it was 12 years removed from then and 6 Western releases of FE later when Awakening finally launched the series into mainstream relevancy - saving it from the brink of death, at that. It probably doesn't hit this level of success without Melee (though it's impossible to say nothing else couldn't have caused them to start localising FE within those 12 years), but Melee is still not what made it as big as it is.
you're not as clever as you think you areYou guys say that but...
And
Just saying the Franchise hasn't had a massive success since 2012...
Yeah. Fire Emblem is more important to Nintendo. Don't mind you, Nintendo had to lump the announcement of Animal Crossing 2019 WITH Smash just to make sure people pay attention.
