Only taking a stab here but could be whatever request was made from Joe's lawyers included taking it down.
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Angry Joe accused of sexual harassment/predatory behaviour [Updates from both posted]
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Medium did. They asked her to delete it I think. She edited a note at the top of it before it went.
Can anyone re-quote Joe's response here or was it removed and scrubbed intentionally because lawyers got involved? I tried a bunch of Googling and tricks and couldn't find it anywhere, here or elsewhere.
Gotcha, thanks.
I was just working on the link in the OP and assumed the threadmark was the staff post/wording you see automatically.
The note that I saw was about Medium asking her to remove the pictures. Was there another one edited in after?
Same as below.
Which is the only note I saw.
Yeah I think the primary thing Joe seems to be concerned with his being accused of assault (which is pretty serious). But I'm disappointed he hasn't apologised properly for his predatory behaviour. Obviously he hasn't broken any laws so I'm sure he'll win his defamation lawsuit, that being said...it's not OK to try and take advantage of your position and (minor?) celebrity status to coerce women into sexual relationships. That's plain shitty.
Oh, maybe it was just the photos. I thought it was everything.
Yeah I agree, but he seems to think otherwise because of this sentence:
Perhaps he's just content with you, and others casually reading, thinking otherwise while he perpetuates a narrative of her walking back an accusation she never made.
She posted a tweet noting that Joe's lawyers indeed were the ones to reach out to Medium and issue the takedown of the images (and likely the article). So yeah, she got silenced by him. For fucks sake... Quite bluntly, it's still beyond vile and disgusting how so many people are just giving her insane hate and harassment on Twitter because they think their angry youtuber personality can do absolutely no wrong whatsoever. A lot of that harassment could have been avoided if Joe didn't tweet out a fucking picture of her twitter account to his followers and lead them to attack her.
He knew what he was doing by posting that tweet. Still sickened by all of this and I wish her the best.
He knew what he was doing by posting that tweet. Still sickened by all of this and I wish her the best.
It's probably a good place to try to avoid assigning a motive; we see that he's claiming that she's accusing him of assault, and we see that she's not actually doing that. It could be a sincere mistake and he's legitimately under that impression, or it could be an attempt to muddy the waters considering his male victimhood narrative.
Between the two, I do feel like one makes more sense than the other, but that's more of a reading in and I wouldn't want to conflate it with a statement of the facts as we know them.
Isn't that still referencing the photos? She's responding to someone referring to the DM's in her post.
edit: Misread your post, see you mention it. We still don't know whether Medium took down the post or whether she did after being asked to.
I just said I don't believe she's accusing of him assault, what are you talking about?
Your original post?
It reads as though he has been accused of assault. It's not the first post and I doubt it'll be the last. I was talking about Joe being content with people picking up what he's putting down and leaving it at that.
Yeah but I thought I cleared it up in the next post when I said I agree with you she didnt???
People on Twitter acting likes everyone's all "he's guilty!!!!!!!" when in reality besides here everyone's dogpiling on the woman.
Joe could be innocent, or he could be guilty. But it's been days, and he has not made any effort to tell his incel fanboys to back off from harassing her. I understand he may not be a fan of hers, but as of now the only absolute truth is this:
JOE DOES NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT HIS FANS HARASSING SOMEONE
Idk about anyone else, but to me that proves Joe is a piece of shit. Too bad his fanboys can't get that through their thick skulls.
Joe could be innocent, or he could be guilty. But it's been days, and he has not made any effort to tell his incel fanboys to back off from harassing her. I understand he may not be a fan of hers, but as of now the only absolute truth is this:
JOE DOES NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT HIS FANS HARASSING SOMEONE
Idk about anyone else, but to me that proves Joe is a piece of shit. Too bad his fanboys can't get that through their thick skulls.
You said Joe seems to think otherwise (that he has been accused of sexual assault) citing his line in the statement. It seems to me that Joe is content with people believing and posting as though he's been accused of sexual assault, in that he's aware that he wasn't and used it as a springboard to be able to say she's walked back her accusation. Hope that makes more sense since it was more using your post as an example of the narrative Joe is happy to let spread than taking an issue with it specifically.
We have no idea what happened here, her accusations are pretty serious of course, but the way he responded is awful. Joe´s lawyer successfully silenced her almost as soon as this began and commenters on other sites that cover all the MeToo moments in gaming this week (sooo many!) in the form of bullet-point lists have it out for Ashley Marku specifically. A common theme is to say that he did nothing wrong even if she is telling the truth. Vomit. I don´t follow him so I ain´t losing anything but I am 100% done with him due to how he mishandled all of this.
I'm still trying to figure out (but no one has answered) what happened with them taking pictures while "laying on the bed" or whatever. That is the one part I am confused about. How the heck did it turn into a situation where they were both laying back and they took pictures together. That is the weirdest part of the whole story.
They got on the bed and took pictures, or no?
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Finally read the full account, and the excerpts in the OP did not do the story justuce. It reads like she believes she narrowly avoided a real and escalating danger to her well-being, along with the implication that she knows others were not so fortunate. Everything she describes points to a pattern of practiced manipulation and staging defense for the possibility of accusations--and the implications of that are seriously heinous.
If you use Twitter, but you don't want to put yourself out there, try sending her a DM.
She may be wading through all the hatred looking for slivers of hope. If we believe her, the least we can do is tell her.
Nobody mentioned them lying down on the bed together. Most likely sitting on the bed. He asked her to look at stuff on his phone so she'd have to come sit next to him to see.
Just read her story. It was reposted just a little ways back.
Thank you for that. That was horrible to read. I'm not super shocked about Joe since he always seemed scummy but man that's still awful. I'm glad she got away but I'm wondering if other women weren't as lucky. So many YouTube personalities are awful it seems.
At this point only time will tell the truth.
It doesn't look good for Joe though... she claims he must have done this to other women too, like there was a plan behind this all.
If that is truly the case it's only a matter of time until other victims will go public with this.
It doesn't look good for Joe though... she claims he must have done this to other women too, like there was a plan behind this all.
If that is truly the case it's only a matter of time until other victims will go public with this.
Other than Joe's lawyers at the moment successfully silencing her, and Joe be thinking "phew! my dumb fans would now think the whole story was a lie!!"...no updates so far.
The victim did try to explain recently on Twitter, including Joe silencing her but nothing really significant since the silence.
User Banned (Permanent): Dismissing Homophobia and Concerns of Representation Over Multiple Threads; Account in Junior Phase
Just watched the video, didn't find it homophobic AT ALL?!
As a straight man, He asked for more females in the game? Why is that an issue lol
I fail to understand why that's homophobic?
I presume they're referring to the "there are too many whiny emo preachy dudes that want to have sex with me" line, which was followed by the skit where Joe is sexually harassed by his gay friend.
Taking a peek at the video now, I feel like that poster was also being fairly light on Joe, since he also goes on to whine about a "barbarian he-man woman" and a "pirate slut who I'm afraid to romance because I don't want my character to get STDs".
Since I don't have twitter installed or a handle afaik, if any of you sends her support, you can add my name in the list.
Believe the victim unless proven otherwise!
Believe the victim unless proven otherwise!
I think Joe's lawyers are wise to aggressively squelch this story from being read. I never want to see that motherfucker's face or hear his voice ever again.
You will though. He's a celebrity YouTuber especially in the gaming sector.
So? He's not the POTUS or whatever to be unavoidable. You can comfortably never see his face again if you don't want to.
The fact that Joes lawyers went hard from the start, tells me theyre trying to set an example here and don't want other stories to come out. Which I'm sure they will.
This sure as heck doesn't feel like a once off thing.
So a woman shares her experience of an encounter with Joe where his behavior was creepy and manipulative.
Instead of taking a moment to reflect on why she perceived his behavior this way and working to change this clearly bad aspect of himself, Joe silences her, accuses her of lying, while himself lying about her accusing him of sexual assault, and while being fully aware of what the reaction of his larger reach and following will be, and thus sics his followers on her to harass, intimidate and attack her.
Doesn't necessarily prove that her story is entirely true, but certainly makes one inclined to believe it.
The behavior Joe has demonstrated directly to our faces, is that of a lying asshole. His character is pretty much shot regardless of the veracity of her story.
His behavior is an example of why women are afraid to step forward.
But his fans will continue blindly adoring him, the shitty section of it might even get a boost from the alt-right crowd, and she will be miserable.
So he wins, I guess. Congratulations Joe, you fucking asshole.
Instead of taking a moment to reflect on why she perceived his behavior this way and working to change this clearly bad aspect of himself, Joe silences her, accuses her of lying, while himself lying about her accusing him of sexual assault, and while being fully aware of what the reaction of his larger reach and following will be, and thus sics his followers on her to harass, intimidate and attack her.
Doesn't necessarily prove that her story is entirely true, but certainly makes one inclined to believe it.
The behavior Joe has demonstrated directly to our faces, is that of a lying asshole. His character is pretty much shot regardless of the veracity of her story.
His behavior is an example of why women are afraid to step forward.
But his fans will continue blindly adoring him, the shitty section of it might even get a boost from the alt-right crowd, and she will be miserable.
So he wins, I guess. Congratulations Joe, you fucking asshole.
And this is why women are afraid of speaking up. Looking at the Dota scene right now it is the same. Stories that are years old finally come to light. Women who are strong enough to tell their story are getting harsh backlash on twitter. Luckily a lot of other community members believe them so the predators are called out and lose their footing and job. I sincerely hope that Joe gets caught with another accusation and can't silence her just as he did now.
Yes, I'm familiar. I saw him in my Home feed earlier and I removed him. I didn't realize I was subbed because who knows how long ago I added his channel.
I know you got banned and can't respond but like. Bruh. Come on now.