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I haven't measured it myself personally but others have posted that they should be able to fit the screen without making the console bigger by shrinking the bezels.
And I'm all about a 7" portable. That's barely bigger than my phone's screen.
Theras post beautifully outlines everything I believe reasonable to expect from the new switch. Like the new Android tv, the upscaling chip uses AI to upscale 360->4k. Its not DLSS however.
I mean, I would LOVE to be proven wrong and eat my words, but I think everyone should really be expecting marginal improvements here. If we get the moon, then thats fantastic!
Eh, you can watch NateDrake's video/podcast or just scan the hardware thread here. I'm not linking insider posts so a million people can go bother them or get them in trouble.
Based on what has been shared it should be a good device. Dont listen to people saying Series S performance and PS4 Pro. That is all made up shit. Just stick to it has tensor cores and can perform similarly to the One S docked. That will keep it in perspective.
At the end of the day this is just a "Pro" model, not the Switch successor, so I'm not expecting the moon or anythin
I'm just saying we don't know what it'll be capable of. Presumably it will be more powerful, sure. But the fact that it'll supposedly be marketed as a 4K machine (we don't even know how much Nintendo will lean into that) doesn't tell us anything about how much more powerful. Maybe it'll play current 720p games at 1080p and current 1080p games at 1200p and they'll all be upscaled to 4K. Maybe it actually will hit native 4K with many games. We have no idea and there's zero evidence one way or the other.
Yes, in the TXAA/FXAA sense. It won't look as clean as good ol' MSAA or SSAA, but Nvidia was marketing DLSS as an AA solution before they called it an upscaling solution.
I think it's clear that most of the Switch Pro's mojo will be housed in the dock. I think one of the reasons they're going with a 720p screen is to keep the number of power profiles as low as possible for developers.
It sounds like it will be running in the same handheld profile as before, but that there'll be a new optional docked profile.
I think the reason it has an OLED screen is to give handheld mode some kind of upgrade in the form of better contrast and possibly HDR. But the star of the show will be the new 4K output of docked mode, probably via DLSS or a similar technology.
It sounds like it will be running in the same handheld profile as before, but that there'll be a new optional docked profile.
I think the reason it has an OLED screen is to give handheld mode some kind of upgrade in the form of better contrast and possibly HDR. But the star of the show will be the new 4K output of docked mode, probably via DLSS or a similar technology.
Gotta wait for Ubisoft to get devkits! (If they haven't yet.)
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720p is ok as long as the games actually render in 720p or use dlss to get there. No more of this Vaseline xenoblade chronicles 2 bullshit.
I'm guessing the Switch itself will be about the same size, just smaller bezels.
Ah, so it's just based on the performance boost in one game?
Either way this is a silly argument, on paper it was quite a large improvement. In practice, not so much. Why that is, who knows.
Nah, none of this lines up with any of the rumors. Not many demanding games hit 720p in handheld mode, there is quite a lot of room for improvement in handheld mode profiles.
For sure, its definitely the stop-gap model. No doubt this will help improve the life span of the switch but I'm curious if Nintendo will follow suite with the other companies and offer backwards compatibility with an eventual successor. Im guessing so, but that recent article talking about the switch successor needing to be some brand new experience makes me slightly hesitant lol
Thanks for posting. I was a bit bummed hearing 720p initially especially as it's meant to use DLSS and I thought it would run internal 540p to hit 1080p using DLSS in handheld mode.
They aren't putting an extra GPU in the dock. They aren't changing displays to use the same internals.
I really, really hope so. I have such a love-hate relationship with the Switch, it's awesome in many ways but I really don't like the amount of full-price ports of games that are just a generation old. On Xbox I can play an updated version of games like RDR that I bought years ago. The Switch BC is embarrassing in comparison. VC ended up being a disappointment as well, I definitely would not have spent nearly as much money on it on Wii had I known it wouldn't be brought forward to new consoles.
We feeling like the current dock and joy con will be forward compatible? Idk how this stuff works.
SS stands for Super Sampling. Yeah, it isa form of AA.
Shield Pro does not need to render a whole game next to its upscaling.
How long are Jeffs hands? im 170, i measured, to hold the console in a confortable angle while angling my hands on my arm restsin my chair (or while holding it up on the couch) im holding it 10+-1 inches away from my face. holding it further away just seems tiring for my arms / unconfortable for a longer session.
And his point about "text would get smaler with 1080" is completly wrong...honestly, thats just a bad take overall there. I have seem more bad takes from him in the last months...
Joycons definitely should be. Dock is more of a question mark, as the current dock can't output 4k. But I don't see why it wouldn't just output the normal 1080p signal.
300 PPI is gold standard for most mobiles which has 1080p display. This should be fine i would call it okay display.
I hope the dock is. I have a couple of extras around the house and I would hate for them to be incompatible.
Neat, yeah I was mostly wondering if some alteration to the form factor would present issues, but I guess taking advantage of smaller bezels gets the job done if the internals don't need more space
high pixel densities benefit text, which is what phones are mostly used for now
I could do with some actual tech spec leaks so we can stop worrying about whether it has dlss or not haha. Would be nice to just know at this point.
I think they would be heavily prioritizing keeping the same form factor, yeah.
true but here Nintendo can save some money on screen. As they are packing everything in that amount. Not to mention nintendo earns profit on hardware so there will be some margin. Samsung screens are good even if you buy a $100 phone they came with good display.
As someone who is mainly using his Switch portably (mostly using my Lite, the regular one is gathering dust in the dock), I can't see myself getting this new one. Unless the bezels are suuuper thin, this thing is super lightweight and still houses some performance increase in the actual device, not just in the dock. Then I would maybe be interested, but I think I'll stick with my Lite. But let's first wait for the proper reveal.
Current Switch and Lite both use TX1+ already. If this new one uses the same chip there would be no need for new devkits, which
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Do you think that Nintendo will require developers to develop for 4 different power profiles in order to release on Switch?
And to be clear, I don't think it will have the same internals, nor have a whole second GPU in the dock.
I was one of the lucky ones that jumped on the modern Nintendo train with the switch. I can only imagine how disheartening that situation must be for everyone else. It'd be fantastic if our investments can start carrying over to different generations at this point as a rule. I dont think anyone wants to buy another version of Mario Kart 8 lol
Because Nintendo has told devs to prepare their games for 4k and there's no realistic way to get there without DLSS.
PC development uses dozens of profiles.
Hell, Switch already supports 5 profiles, there's docked, docked with CPU boost, undocked, boost mode undocked, super boost mode undocked.
Several insiders have explicitly said it will. One of whom is quite trustworthy with a very good track record.
I would think Nividia/Nintendo would possibly push to use DLSS / tensor cores if possible to get as much juice out of the system as possible.
No they tested all of the enhanced games + I've hacked mine and installed emulators and home brew stuff and found a similar boost. I agree it's a silly argument. Whether there's untapped power there or not is irrelevant, as far as the end user is concerned it's a small boost and I'm predicting the same for the new Switch.
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