for home I don't expect much difference - they're close enough to the same size. Its only rapid charging where the CCS2 is bigger and often has a heavier (cooled) cable.
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for home I don't expect much difference - they're close enough to the same size. Its only rapid charging where the CCS2 is bigger and often has a heavier (cooled) cable.
It's not going to affect anything, there are essentially zero cars sold in the US with a connector that can handle three phase along with zero single family houses wired up for it.
My worry is about future proofing it. 3-phase charging would allow for significantly faster charging which is more important at charging stations than at home.
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Reminds me a lot of the PAL vs NTSC vs SECAM thing back in the day.
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Just make NACS the US standard. These other charger providers are slackin'.
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those stats aren't as black and white as they appear though - CCS almost as many as tesla albeit split more towards 50kw. And Tesla has had pretty much a 5 year + headstart
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That wouldn't explain the 2022 numbers though. Unless you mean the majority of CCS being installed is sub-100kW, which is terrible.
Will have to wait until specifics about the adapters come out next year, but potentially yes.
Depends on the type of charging station.
If it's one of the destination ones that are ac (hotels and the like) you can already do it with an adapter iirc.
If it's one of the supercharger ones, the rollout has started but who knows how much time until everything supports ccs.
The stats on how many of those chargers will be working when you pull up to one also favors Tesla.
Charging stations where speed is important should be using DC. 3-phase would really only be handy for destination charging at locations too small to justify a full DC fast charger, unless I'm completely misunderstanding the situation. A solid DC network and cars with adequate range to get around their local metro (commutes, shopping) should alliviate the need for fast destination charging though.
As a prospective EV owner, chargers below 100 kw are of basically no importance to me. I want to be able to get from A to B in a reasonable timeframe and low voltage chargers don't help with that.
50kw is probably too slow for road trips now, but they're great for shopping centers.
Yep there's definitely a place for slower charging. Would be nice to have more at hotels too.
Chargers like that won't make or break my buying decision though, whereas the availability of fast charging along long routes I routinely travel absolutely will.
Gah. You are right. I was half asleep when I was reading up on 3-phase and misread that it was nearly as fast as DC charging. Would be better for destination charges but not a huge deal.
Blink & Chargepoint are now switching to NACS for their chargers going forward too:
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Blink, ChargePoint to launch EV chargers with Tesla's charging connector
Electric vehicle charging equipment makers Blink Charging , ChargePoint and Tritium said on Monday they will offer chargers with Tesla's connector, as the standard Combined Charging System (CCS) connector falls out of favor with automakers.
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I'm shocked Blink is even part of the conversation. All their charging stations that I know of have fallen into disrepair or replaced.Blink & Chargepoint are now switching to NACS for their chargers going forward too:
Blink, ChargePoint to launch EV chargers with Tesla's charging connector
Electric vehicle charging equipment makers Blink Charging , ChargePoint and Tritium said on Monday they will offer chargers with Tesla's connector, as the standard Combined Charging System (CCS) connector falls out of favor with automakers.
Ford has opened up reservations for the converter. Completely free, as they stated earlier, so it's great to see.
Fellow Bolt owner here, I sadly paid for mine from Lectron (although they still haven't sent it to me yet). Sure wish GM would do something like that.
