...and then Warren proceeded to come to an agreement with Sanders on being civil toward each other?
This feels bogus.
This feels bogus.
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CNN: Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren in private 2018 meeting that a woman can't win, Bernie denies(Update: NYT & Buzzfeed Confirming)
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It's almost like a certain class of people would benefit if Sanders and Warren camps would start to infight right around this time.
BUT NAH! The media is definitely unbiased when it comes to covering progressives and specifically Bernie and would never try to intentionally cast them in a negative light.
Our country is fucking doomed if people actually buy into this shit.
BUT NAH! The media is definitely unbiased when it comes to covering progressives and specifically Bernie and would never try to intentionally cast them in a negative light.
Our country is fucking doomed if people actually buy into this shit.
I don't think this is so much about CNN making up sources so much as CNN having a history of being incredibly irresponsible with their reporting in order to stir shit up and maintain horse race drama.
For an example see their coverage of the last two weeks of the 2016 election, otherwise know as "HILLARY IS GOING TO JAIL!!!" and "HILLARY CHEATED BERNIE IN THE DEBATES!!!!"
Yeah, Warren's campaign has to clear this up now because people are going to interpret their silence as Bernie's guilt.
These types of stories just make me roll my eyes. Seems like a dumb attempt at a gotcha moment. The current president is a goblin of a human that spews hate at every opportunity and we give this kind of attention to some off hand comment that seems fairly ordinary.
Had anyone prior to Obama said "I don't think a black person can be president" we would have all thought that was a pretty fine thing to say. And furthermore, It's absolutely not the same as saying "I hope a black person/woman never becomes president" which I think this attention on the comment is trying to imply
Had anyone prior to Obama said "I don't think a black person can be president" we would have all thought that was a pretty fine thing to say. And furthermore, It's absolutely not the same as saying "I hope a black person/woman never becomes president" which I think this attention on the comment is trying to imply
Yes, he did! He specifically wanted her to run as a counter to Hillary, and when she declined, that's when he decided to jump in.
Yup. Bern wanted warren to run in 2015 but she did not which lead to him entering race
Media is trying to play up the Bernie vs. Warren angle over contrived bullshit; first the memo, now this. Warren team needs to come out with an official response either way.
I was about to say this thread was FAR more civil than I was expecting it to be.
Then I remembered the Cenk thing and how many people showed their asses over that and are still banned.
Then I remembered the Cenk thing and how many people showed their asses over that and are still banned.
Forgive me for not seeing the sarcasm in your post as several people in this thread are saying literally the same thing in earnest, insisting this is some questionably timed and unique persecution of Bernie.
I can fully see this happening. I mean I even had these thoughts as Harris and Warren announced their runs. If Harris had won the primary and was up against Trump I truly worried about the hate and vitriol that would be getting hurled at her by the right because of her ethnicity and gender combined, it would be how they attacked Obama multiplied a hundred-fold. Trump is already hammering at Warren with the issues she had claiming Indigenous heritage. I am a Warren supporter, I would love to see her as the choice, but I can see the massive roadblocks she will have to get over that the right will be putting up if she wins the nomination.
EDIT: If this was ginned-up by the Warren campaign it would look really bad for her. I've stuck by her for most of this, but this is starting to verge into the destructive stories Clinton put out against Obama in the '08 primary. Which also gave the right the false talking point they trot out occasionally about how "Hillary created the Birther Movement!!!"
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Can't wait for someone to say that he doesn't care about identity based on this clip.
It may surprise you to know that people "left of the republicans" aren't a monolithic Borg like entity. People are wildly complex creatures and their beliefs and feelings aren't tied to whatever their choice of governmental party is! Yes, acting shitty isn't just reserved for the Republican party. It is a crazy thought I know.
I mean in a way he is - he's saying that policy matters over representation, which is what was so "controversial" when he said it in 2017
Going to go with this based on what we know at the moment. Anecdotal experiences show me the "I will never vote for a woman." mentality is far more widespread than you would think and I'm sure Bernie knows it.
Will wait to see more though.
I'm pretty sure that a story did come out during the 2008 campaign that said the Clintons met with Obama and attempted to get him to divert his campaign to backing Hillary because "America isn't ready for a black president".
Although in hindsight they were right.
Yeah, now that I think about it, it isn't as black and white as I thought.
Either way, I stand by my statement that Bernie didn't say that.
Warren is my #1 choice, but she really needs to comment on this directly. I have a hard time believing Bernie spoke as is characterised. I can see it being a distortion of some commentary on the subject, esp. in regards to the primaries. Democrats do have a sexism problem too. It's pretty clear from how quickly some have gone to seeing Clinton being a woman as the mistake last election, and how Buttigieg is the 2nd choice of Sanders' male supporters.
I would agree that he believes in policy above all but that he doesn't care about identity is a little far fetched.
I really have to question the motives of anyone who calls this an "attack"
So since Jan 1st, the media has hit Bernie with baseless attacks on his medical records, super pac money, antisemitism (!!!) and now sexism?
All in 2 weeks? Am I getting everything? How scared are they?
All in 2 weeks? Am I getting everything? How scared are they?
Yes, cause I honestly believe that Sanders said this and the media and Warren's camp are being genuine in painting him as a misogynist.
Decent America was ready for Obama, deplorable America was not. The Trumpkins can fuck off, don't let them dictate what is and isn't possible.
I'm not a Bernie fan but I don't believe that story for a second.
Look at you trying to bait people.
Look at you trying to bait people.
Who cares? He probably didn't say that, or if he did there was context like "a woman would have a tough time because parts of America aren't ready yet" which isn't inaccurate. This is a dumb distraction from beating Trump, focussing on the issues that need to change in America, and beating Trump.
Not a Bernie fan, I prefer Warren, but there's honestly no way this warrants any attention.
Not a Bernie fan, I prefer Warren, but there's honestly no way this warrants any attention.
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