That feel when you queue as a 2 man group and get 2nd and 4th place on the losing team as Terra and WoL because your Lightning fed and died all 3 times.....
Easily the most unfair and one sided match i had outside of horrible laggy messes (or fighting mythril AI XD )
Oh man, what did they do to the Crystal Tower theme? I suppose it is kind of fitting for an arena brawler, but blech...
So, guys, how do I suck less at this game? I tried shantotto and y'shtola and got wrecked on the first beta, now I'm trying Ramza and I got worse, but I feel better at Y'shtola... psp dissidia didn't feel as hard as this game and I really want to be good at least with the characters I like :(
With Ramza, it's crucial to keep your Shout up. Hold Triangle to charge your Ex Skill and press it to activate. (You can also hold it to instead buff your team, but do that sparringly.) Without Shout, Ramza is basically borderline trash. You can just barely stand up for yourself enough to win some space. You need to always try to make sure you activate Shout. It improves your moves dramatically.
This is just me, but I wouldn't play him in that manner. His ranged attacks aren't anything great, but the rest of his kit is really good. Ranger bow attacks lock you into place for a long time so you're really vulnerable, and black magic stuff takes too long to come out. On some stages it's fun to use his geomancer earthquake hp attack as ranged but that's really it. I think he's great at mid to close range since he has good gap closers and close up stuff.
and this is just my favorite match, cuz I did well in it, and I am vapid and like feeling good about being able to hold against 2 enemy players AND their summon at the same time
Oh... that explains a lot. I'll try it tomorrow. Any tips for Y'shtola?(though i believe my problem with her is not remembering the moveset correctly :|)
I wish I could play Kuja too :(
In the 10-20 matches he and I did get day one of the beta, neither of us ranked up at all. And we won the majority. Unsure why we can't rank up at all.
He and I are both stuck at bronze E.
The good news is that Kuja is available in the second wave tomorrow. Bad news is that Ramza isn't so if you want to get any more practice in, now is the time.
Dammit.
Edit: thanks for the tip, I'll try it now
It's ok, thanks for the help ^^
Holy hell i got second place ^o^
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btw if you just want to practice replay the bravery system tutorial. As long as you don't use a HP attack you get a training dummy with infinite health/timer. I've used it a bunch.
Weird, I only had problems because I was some ranks higher than my buddy, not sure why it takes so long for both of you then.
Remember that your attacks have debuff effects, which really helps, especially with landing stronger attacks/HP attack.
Set traps, harass with Stone, when someone is chasing you in the air try to hit them with Water, when on the ground with Blizzard.
Ok! Thanks, I'll mark the moveset and try later when the game comes out... I'm loving Ramza now that I sort of know what to do xD
The next rotation looks fun....and I'm gonna miss it, stupid work. Y'all have fun. Tidus and Seph are two of my favs so I'm bummed to be missing them.
And I don't know why, but I love that Bartz is the one character who's available in all three rotations.
And I don't know why, but I love that Bartz is the one character who's available in all three rotations.
I wish we could mix and match UI elements. I like bigger more obvious character portraits on other player's health bars, from the arcade, but I'd prefer to keep eveyrthing else, including my own bar, summon bar and minimap more minimalistic.
Can we agree that Alexandria, Flower Meadows, and Besaid Island are the top 3 stages in this game?
Try looking up character guides and match analysis videos on YouTube.
Like Gundam Versus, this game rewards situational awareness and positioning in ways that aren't intuitive for people who don't play a lot of Japanese style arena brawlers.
Once you get the hang of positioning and keeping track of your teammates and enemies, things should start making a bit more sense.
Only if we can agree that Midgard is complete ass. I love Flower Meadows the most though, especially after transition.
Will do! Thanks. I have to study the game a bit since I'll be playing with a friend that's sort of a natural to any kind of game he touches... i don't wanna get left behind =_=
Y'shtola is very much built for team play, so try to play to her strengths.
Take advantage of any opportunity you get to throw spells at enemies distracted by your teammates. Even a single Stone or Virus would be a big help since they won't just damage the target, but the debuffs would make them more vulnerable to the guy they're actually fighting.
Her HP attacks follow a fairly similar pattern, in being geared for team play. Holy is amazing if you can sneak up on a guy occupied with your teammate, as its AOE is big enough that it's very hard to avoid. Big clusterfucks are also a great opportunity to use it, and I have netted double KOs doing so before.
On a more general basis, use her traps (dashing + attack) to create space, and her back + attack to knock back enemies who are too close. Remember you can dodge cancel after a spell by pressing L1 and a movement direction to help minimise opportunities for enemies to attack you while you're casting.
Try to engage Vanguards when possible. Y'shtola has all the tools necessary to keep them off her and make life miserable for them. Assassins are much tougher for her to go 1v1 as her spells are too slow and straightforward to really catch them if they know what they're doing.
Yeah, I kinda did that on a match but it wasn't on purpose... I'll try to keep my distance from assassins since they got me rekd real bad, and also try to be a bit more patient with the hp skills... I'm saving all those tips btw, you guys are all really helpful @-@ it'll just take some time to memorize all that xD
Man I had a hot streak going. Won like 4 games straight where I was #1. Then I get matched up with two AI bots as my partners and they get bopped in 20 seconds and I'm bodied.
This game is super fun when it clicks. If you're struggling to grasp it keep trying! I just focused on one thing at a time.
BTW Shiva is confirmed coolest summon, right?
This game is super fun when it clicks. If you're struggling to grasp it keep trying! I just focused on one thing at a time.
BTW Shiva is confirmed coolest summon, right?
That feel when you accidentally use Bartz's Dragoon Leap right into a 4k HP Holy, and it all happens on a well known streamers stream lol. Atleast we won the match handily still
I only got to play on it once so I currently don't have an opinion on it. Is there a way to get the music to play according to the stage? I want Final Fantasy IV music to play on a IV stage, IX music on Alexandria, and etc.
My 2 party mates have been giving me shit since lol, I'm just glad we didn't lose because of it.
I cant play yshtola for the life of me. Everything in her moveset seems to revolve around baiting and punishing.
i also cant reliably make ramza go super saiyan.
Cloud feels op with his aoe's and aerial neutral . But damn i need his omnislash like yesterday.
Terra is great so long as youre not getting ganged , she's absolutely dead at close range.
Bartz is probably my favorite so far, mastering his jobs is kind of a mini game in itself and too many people fail to predict high jump.
current rotation is my most anticipated one.
ace, seph , kefka , kuja , kain , ultemecia.
i also cant reliably make ramza go super saiyan.
Cloud feels op with his aoe's and aerial neutral . But damn i need his omnislash like yesterday.
Terra is great so long as youre not getting ganged , she's absolutely dead at close range.
Bartz is probably my favorite so far, mastering his jobs is kind of a mini game in itself and too many people fail to predict high jump.
current rotation is my most anticipated one.
ace, seph , kefka , kuja , kain , ultemecia.
No, I do not think so. As far as I can tell it's always random and you can either have every song you have unlocked randomly, a general playlist, or a character specific playlist.
I'd probably keep it randomy anyway but It's a weird decision to not have the option.
Man I'm gonna miss Y'shtola after the rotation, had a ton of fun with her just picking people off with stone and baiting with holy and the traps.
The only problem I'm having with this game is the pretty shitty matchmaking and netcode. It takes far too long for me to queue a normal solo match (upwards to 5 minutes, which is fairly ridiculous when each game match takes about as long) and once you're in the match it's always a 50% chance someone has a poor connection and makes the entire game a lagfest.
The only problem I'm having with this game is the pretty shitty matchmaking and netcode. It takes far too long for me to queue a normal solo match (upwards to 5 minutes, which is fairly ridiculous when each game match takes about as long) and once you're in the match it's always a 50% chance someone has a poor connection and makes the entire game a lagfest.
Dash + X lets you put ground (stonera) or aerial (aerora) traps.
Yeah her ground dash bravery and also in the full version her third HP attack allows her to setup another trap which she can have up to 4 on the field at once and if they connect reduces their movement speed by 20% for about 20 seconds.
http://www.jp.square-enix.com/dffnt/event_command/english/
Here is a full english command list for each character.
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Can't wait until the main game so I can get my hands on all of those ex moves and figure out some nice setups. Also the other HP attacks for the characters.