I meant mass shooting, you 60's nugget
Yes please. They need to see.
We don't gotta worry about giving them anything, if they don't have something they just make shit up, see pizzagate and gamergate and Qanon
Don, you're telling the truth too aggressively.Well he's correct. I just don't like the way that he said it cos proximity makes me itchy.
The 2015 San Bernardino attack on the special needs & disabilities center by Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik. Both devout Muslim, a man and woman, husband/wife duo. I only remember the details of this one so explicitly because I also work at a special needs & disabilities center and it was really talked about a lot here because of that connection.
There was also a shooting in September at a Rite-Aid Distribution Center in Maryland. A woman shot and killed 3 people, wounded others and she then shot and killed herself. Again, I also only remember the details of this one because my work is as a job coach at a distribution center with a direct connection to the Maryland DC as well.
I'm sure I could name quite a few others that fit one of the two groups you described if I sat here to think about it long enough. Someone else already mentioned the on at the Orlando nightclub. You also have the 2009 Fort Hood shooter Nidal Hasan. In 2007 you had Seung-Hui Cho with the Virginia Tech massacre. This happens so often that of course there are non-white men and some women included. I think the statistic is like 55% or 60% of all mass shooters are white men. So, it's a majority, but it's not like it's anywhere close to 100%.
This is all pointless though. The fact is that most of these types of mass shooters are indeed white men. That's a fact, no way around that. I don't even feel that it's an entirely racial cause either. I mean, a lot of the times the motive is race, obviously. I think the problem is more of an American (no matter your actual race) cultural issue, and certainly a mental health issue as well.
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This graph should show the amount of islamic extremist terror on US soil compared to that of white terror in america. No? Of course not, because there isnt any islamic terrorism in the US. And when the attack on the towers happebed it was from an ally. (Saudi) This is not the talking point thoHe ain't wrong. Domestic terrorism is far and away the largest share and the majority of it is done by white dudes.
Course you can't put a travel ban on domestic terror, but that don't mean we shouldn't confront it.
That said, radical Islamic terrorism does kill more people (ie the acts of terror caused by far right "islamic" ideology are more violent). Far right "nationalistic" attacks ain't far behind though.
A big problem is white men own way more guns than anyone else. It's a lot easier to go on a rampage when you have easy access to an arsenal than if you don't. Combine that with white men being more conservative (of which a small subset falls into aggressive nationalistic views) and that's a decent reason why.This is the best summation of it, but I think we really need to think about the American culture that makes white men act like this. You were close with your percentages too, by the way, CNN says 64%.
He won't apologize. I think cnn's ceo is pretty incensed at Trump right now even though he is pretty complicit in all this. I mean they got sent two bombs.
Trump's election seems to have given him a new focus.Barely, but yeah. Black people particularly couldn't stand the guy, and guess what, they had good reason. It's kind of amazing to now seem him be perhaps the most harsh voice against Trump on cable news, save maybe Maddow. The guy calls Trump a racist on air, and, he's right.
This is looking at domestic terrorism, feel free to read the article I linked.This graph should show the amount of islamic extremist terror on US soil compared to that of white terror in america. No? Of course not, because there isnt any islamic terrorism in the US. And when the attack on the towers happebed it was from an ally. (Saudi) This is not the talking point tho
Right, he fed them a bad line with white men. I get what he was getting at, that white male extremist terror is the real terrorist threat we should be going after, but woof at the way he said it.That is quite literally his point.
He just said it in the most politically incorrect way he could manage. Conservatives should appreciate that.
They won't.
That's also pretty outdated.This is looking at domestic terrorism, feel free to read the article I linked.
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...k-data-domestic-terrorism-and-whos-behind-it/
The vast majority of terrorism in the US is done by white dudes but it tends to be non violent. This includes stuff like corporate terrorism, eco terrorism and the like. Bombing of an empty building would be an example of that. Clearly terrorism but it doesn't kill anyone.
When it comes to violent (domestic) terrorism far right nationalistic terror comes in slightly behind far right Islamic terror.
To be fair, that says nothing of the race. Islamic terror can be caused by a white dude just as easily as far right nationalistic terrorism can be caused by an Arab guy (in all honestly the two ideologies ain't that far apart).
I'll look into race statistics of violent terrorism and get back to you.
He still gets the side-eye.
This is looking at domestic terrorism, feel free to read the article I linked.
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...k-data-domestic-terrorism-and-whos-behind-it/
The vast majority of terrorism in the US is done by white dudes but it tends to be non violent. This includes stuff like corporate terrorism, eco terrorism and the like. Bombing of an empty building would be an example of that. Clearly terrorism but it doesn't kill anyone.
When it comes to violent (domestic) terrorism far right nationalistic terror comes in slightly behind far right Islamic terror.
To be fair, that says nothing of the race. Islamic terror can be caused by a white dude just as easily as far right nationalistic terrorism can be caused by an Arab guy (in all honestly the two ideologies ain't that far apart).
I'll look into race statistics of violent terrorism and get back to you.
Naw boy it needed to be said if that's what mobilizes the right of influences swing voters then let it. Fuck em.I'll paraphrase a conversation I already had with friends: Salient points said poorly. Shit timing to give red meat to the conservatives leading up to the election.
Also, those people were not illegal. They were nationalized citizens, or born here in the United States. The Orlando shooting is skewing a lot of those results. White terrorism is far more frequent and those numbers also don't take into account anything past 2016, with the more recent acts of White terrorism since Trump.San Bernardino is 14 people killed, Boston Marathon bombers killed 3, Pulse nightclub was 49 ... those are pretty much the biggest "radical Islamic terror" attacks post 9/11 ... that's 66 people, am I missing anything else big?
Anythibg missing on the radical white terrorist side from this year and last?San Bernardino is 14 people killed, Boston Marathon bombers killed 3, Pulse nightclub was 49 ... those are pretty much the biggest "radical Islamic terror" attacks post 9/11 ... that's 66 people, am I missing anything else big?
There are a few more, a 8 for a vehicle attack in New York, 5 for Boston (apparently, they probably died from their injuries) and a few more like that Ali Muhammad Brown dude that killed 4 people in 2014.San Bernardino is 14 people killed, Boston Marathon bombers killed 3, Pulse nightclub was 49 ... those are pretty much the biggest "radical Islamic terror" attacks post 9/11 ... that's 66 people, am I missing anything else big?
Boston Marathon 2013.The only terrorists we have had in the US for over a decade have been fragile white men.
Also, those people were not illegal. They were nationalized citizens, or born here in the United States. The Orlando shooting is skewing a lot of those results. White terrorism is far more frequent and those numbers also don't take into account anything past 2016, with the more recent acts of White terrorism since Trump.
2018 Shooting at grocery store Jeffersontown, Kentucky 0 2
2018 Pittsburgh synagogue shooting Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 7 11
2018 Murder of Blaze Bernstein Orange County, California 0 1
2018 Murder of MeShon Cooper-Williams Kansas City, Missouri 0 1
2017 University of Maryland stabbing College Park, Maryland 0 1
2017 Car-ramming attack into counter-protestors at the white nationalist Unite the Right rally Charlottesville, Virginia 19 1
2017 Portland train attack Portland, Oregon 1 2
2017 Stabbing of Timothy Caughman New York City 0 1
There are a few more, a 8 for a vehicle attack in New York, 5 for Boston (apparently, they probably died from their injuries) and a few more like that Ali Muhammad Brown dude that killed 4 people in 2014.
Though I don't know if I'd mark them all as 'radical Islamic terrorists' but they were pretty bad people.
Yeah I know, I don't know where they got this number (or what classifies as radical Islam).
This is the best summation of it, but I think we really need to think about the American culture that makes white men act like this. You were close with your percentages too, by the way, CNN says 64%.
Boston Marathon 2013.
San Bernardino 2015.
Orlando 2016.
New York City 2017.
You're an idiot.
Right and I mean it's all obviously horrible. But, it goes back to Lemon's point, especially in regards to the caravan, in that none of these kinds of people are in that caravan and yet the Trump administration is focused on it above all else, even while choosing to opt out of programs in place to combat White terrorism, initiated by Obama.That's true. Even non-violent stuff.
Jesus, do you all remember this one ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Lafayette_shooting